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  1. OSU Men's Basketball Recruiting/Projections/General Discussions

    spellman might have only played 1 year, but he spent 2 years in college. If he was a one and done talent, he would have gone pro last year, but he wasn't good enough. I also don't think he's hired an agent or made a commitment to stay in the draft.
  2. OSU Men's Basketball Recruiting/Projections/General Discussions

    There is no harm in disagreeing. We'll see what we get when we see it. There is a poster on Eleven Warriors who is a WF grad/fan who praised his offensive skill set, but said he's not the best athlete and his defense has always been a problem. There is a reason the second leading scorer goes...
  3. OSU Men's Basketball Recruiting/Projections/General Discussions

    Yeah, obviously Jay Wright is doing a fine job with some good players, but not one and done types. Roy at UNC hasn't been getting many one and dones either, but has been competing well. Probably the best scenario is to mix good 3-4 year players with an elite big or PG. Having classes of 3...
  4. OSU Men's Basketball Recruiting/Projections/General Discussions

    This. He would get out of position at times, but he was pretty good on the ball and had good lateral quickness and overall above average athleticism. Dakich was someone who wasn't very quick/athletic, but was very good defensively off the ball because of positioning and understanding good...
  5. OSU Men's Basketball Recruiting/Projections/General Discussions

    More rounded on offense than Kam (can backup at the point), but not as athletic and a downgrade on D. He checks some boxes of need, but overall, probably about an even up trade off with Kam.
  6. 2018 QB Battle Discussion

    My impression of what Meyer said is they wouldn't say something just to keep him around, not that they wouldn't provide an honest evaluation. I think its entirely possible the coaches are 50/50 right now and as a player, I wouldn't have an issue with them telling me that if thats the way it...
  7. 2018 QB Battle Discussion

    Why would Haskins transfer if not named the starter? Makes more sense for Burrow since he can go play somewhere right away, but if Haskins transfers, he has to sit out a year (waste of a year since he's already burned his RS) and run the scout team instead of at least getting 2nd team reps and...
  8. 2018 QB Battle Discussion

    Correct, the game plan was to hit the short stuff, take a few shots down the field and run the QB. Just pointing out that it wasn't Watsons ability to hit the 15 yard out consistently that was successful in that game. IT was short passes and the QB run keeping the defense on its toes. They...
  9. 2018 QB Battle Discussion

    Watson ran the ball 21 times in the national title game (more runs than JTB had in any game last year). No INTs in 56 attempts in that game, 7.5 yards per attempt. They took the short stuff and kept the defense on its toes with QB runs, but he didn't make any mistakes in the passing game.
  10. 2018 QB Battle Discussion

    Well, I think some of that "predictability" was predicated on having the same QB the past 4 years. As great a leader as JTB was, his strengths dictated a lot of the play calling and he never became an anticipatory thrower. The coaches went to his strengths in tight situations and it became...
  11. 2018 QB Battle Discussion

    The best defense these quarterbacks have faced the last 2 years is when they go against our #1's in practice which they've done fairly regularly (ie, much larger sample size than a couple of spring games and the limited game time each has gotten). I believe Burrow was the slight leader based on...
  12. 2018 QB Battle Discussion

    Don't have a dog in the fight and didn't read the entire thread, but obviously both QB's have strengths and weaknesses and I think its obvious the coaches don't have a clear cut guy. No question Haskins has more zip on his passes. I think Joe is more apt to take the safer throw (beauty in the...
  13. OSU Men's Basketball Recruiting/Projections/General Discussions

    I think PSU has a better returning core than us. Watkins and Stevens make up a very good front court, maybe best in the league next year. They do not have much depth, or quality of depth in the back court. With a good scoring guard like Cremo, I think they'd have a decent chance to make the...
  14. SF Justin Ahrens (transfer to Loyola Marymount)

    A slightly better shooting Sylvester is probably a decent comparison and reasonable expectation.
  15. OSU Men's Basketball Recruiting/Projections/General Discussions

    And this is exactly the point I was making in the post I was responding to. Who you play and beat matters. Nebraska played in a weak conference and had limited opportunities for good wins. The fact that teams from other conferences got in with 8-10 conference records is not an indication that...
  16. OSU Men's Basketball Recruiting/Projections/General Discussions

    What was Nebraskas record? They weren't even on the bubble. Much better comparable since they are in our conference which was very weak this year and will be again next.
  17. OSU Men's Basketball Recruiting/Projections/General Discussions

    Without roster additions, I don't anticipate that we will make the tourney this year. We aren't bringing in anything close to what we lost and are still short on guards. We managed the lack of guard depth last year by relying on our forwards, but there aren't those guys to rely on next year...
  18. OSU Men's Basketball Recruiting/Projections/General Discussions

    Ledee was measured at a camp heading into his soph year at 6'8", so growing an inch to 6'9" in 2+ years doesn't appear to be a stretch. Tough to compare 2 guys height even when standing next to each other (camera angle/slouching). I don't recall a single OSU player that measured smaller at the...
  19. OSU Men's Basketball Recruiting/Projections/General Discussions

    Rivals and ESPN list LeDee at 6'9". OSU listed Young at 6'8". We most definitely need 2 PGs in these 2 classes (my assumption is that Muhammad and Washington are better suited for the 2 and not well utilized as PGs which is why we are looking at so many PG options). It would be best if we got...
  20. OSU Men's Basketball Recruiting/Projections/General Discussions

    To be clear, he's not doing it with "Butler level recruits". KBD was a top 30 national recruit, Tate was top 50ish, Kam around 70 and Wesson 75. These were all MAtta recruits and guys that never would have considered Butler. Young was going to be Holtmanns first top 100 recruit at Butler (and...
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