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Thank you for your politeness. :)
Pretty much everyone firing at me here has been rude, even some I thought it would be beneath them. In turn, I've been a little rude back. No need for that, let's have a discussion.
"Fools?". Come on, that's overstating it. I've called nobody a fool, I'm disagreeing with you. Like I said, stassen's is different because his opinion is different. For the record, I have no problem with Stassen's opinion, but it's not official.
In 1970, Ohio State won the McArthur trophy as champions of the National Football Foundation. To the NCAA, that holds as much weight as the Football Writers and that's why Ohio State is listed as consensus champions. For better or for worse, for years the NCAA has considered the winner of one...
You aren't going to claim he got his information from Howell, are you? He had had his winning percentage program up well before he tapped into howell's data. That's NOT where he got his info.
I know why their info is different from the NCAA. In some cases, it's just because they made a...
It depends on what they source. Haven't not been given a direct quote, I really don't know what they are trying to say. Most people are under the impression that only the wire service polls count, whereas the NCAA it's member schools tend to view it a little differently. As for me, I'll go...
I've compared information give by the NCAA to information given by the schools. I've made the same comparison with Stassen. The NCAA is remarkably accurate considering the amount of info they give.
Simply put, I accept what is official. That you do not says more about you than it does me...
Ohio State had not won a wire service championship since 1968, which is the information quoted when it was said. Ohio State's consideres themselves to be champion in 1970, and the NCAA lists Ohio State among the consensus champions. Either is good enough for me to count it.
Did you say where it came from? Someone did. Yes, stassen got his information from those sources, you saying he didn't doesn't make it so.
The NCAA started compiling records way back when based on what information was given to them by the team. In 1937, they started compiling their own...
The question I was answering was "would I count Ohio State's titles for 61 and 70." I said yes I would because the NCAA calls them a consensus champions. I'm sorry you can't understand simple phrases.
What other questions.
Yes, Stassen checks team records for his information, as does the NCAA. In the end, there are only three place to get team information.
1. From the team.
2. From the NCAA.
3. From the newpaper.
#2 gets their information from #1 and unless you dig up all the...
I never said the Ohio State were the consensus champions. I said the NCAA lists them among their consensus champions, which is an easily verifiable fact. You then decided to claim it could not be so and be a jackass abou it.
The NCAA makes mistakes. In comparing the two sources, I've found the NCAA to make far less mistakes. However, there are none in the 5 teams listed. Stassen has no "mistakes" on those either, he just has a different opinion than the NCAA.
The NCAA is the official word. That's what...
I don't argue if it's a good system or not, all I'm telling you is that's what is offcial. All these ad hoc sites are using the same sources, only when you enter all that information by hand, you tend to make mistakes and it comes out less accurately. Good or not, I don't care, right or not...
I know what the word consensus means. Let's review what was said.
1. I said the NCAA called Ohio State a consensus champion. That is a fact.
2. You said I didn't know what I was talking about because, you assured me, that the NCAA would do no such thing.
3. I showed exactly where the...