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2019 Week 7 CFB Open Thread

Lincoln Riley pledges no ‘Horns Down’ gestures from No. 6 OU vs. No. 11 Texas

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As anyone who’s ever been around a child or a dog knows, the surest way to get them to obsess over an item or action they want is to it it away from them.

Turns out, that works for college football fans as well.

Last year’s Big 12 football season was highlighted by Kyler Murray‘s Heisman Trophy run, Texas’s long-awaited resurgence, a high-flying West Virginia offense and the Big 12’s official outlawing of the “Horns Down” gesture. The storyline reached its zenith ahead of the Big 12 Championship, a Red River rematch that saw every Oklahoma fan defiantly point their pointer and pinky fingers toward the floor for the entire drive from Norman to Arlington, then saw the team finally join in after OU won the game.

With the Cotton Bowl edition of the Red River game set to arrive on Saturday (noon ET, Fox), Lincoln Riley pledged his team won’t throw their horns down, at least during the game.

“Our players won’t do it. Just like the Big 12 (championship) game,” Riley told the Tulsa World.

Regardless of how you feel the Big 12 classifying what has long been an accepted gesture now worthy of a 15-yard taunting penalty, this is smart football by Riley. Oklahoma racks up plenty of penalty yardage over the course of a typical game (90.4 yards per game, second most nationally), so they don’t need to go looking for 15-yard flags.

The fans, though, that’s another story.

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2019 B1G season discussion

I didn't see a thread for this and the '19 B1G season is now in full gear.

Week 7 coming up, here are the games that matter for OSU and early lines;

tsun -20 at Illinois.

Wisky -10 vs Sparty

Pedsters -3 at Iowa at night


Part of me thinks Sparty is going to be beat up and emotionally spent thereby ending up on the wrong end of a Madison train ride.

I'm not sure tsun can score 20 on air but Illinois is horrible.

Pedsters could be on full upset alert but sweet blue baby jesus is the Iowa offense, and QB, bad.

Best place to watch the wolverines lose on game day in CBus

As a Spartan in Columbus for the game, I cannot think of a better way to start the day then to join a bunch of Buckeyes in cheering on a wolverine defeat. (The enemy of my enemy is my friend . . . Until kickoff).

Is there a place that will have a bunch of people watching the game or does the bar scene not pick up until later for a night game?

BTN Audio: Listen to Big Ten hockey coaches preview the season

Audio: Listen to Big Ten hockey coaches preview the season
BTN.com staff via Big Ten Network

Listen to each of the Big Ten men’s hockey coaches talk to reporters ahead of the start of the 2019-2020 Big Ten Men’s Hockey season. It's almost time for @B1GHockey. @BadgerMHockey coach @TonyGranato looks at what lies ahead for Wisconsin in the upcoming season. pic.twitter.com/eswSh3UJbU — Wisconsin On BTN (@WisconsinOnBTN) October 3, 2019 Get ready for the upcoming season of @B1GHockey with @MSU_Hockey coach Danton Cole. pic.twitter.com/uvVQQDVEpG — Michigan St. on BTN (@MichiganStOnBTN) October 3, 2019 Defending @B1GHockey tournament champion @NDHockey enter the season picked to finish second in the conference. Head coach Jeff Jackson shares how he sees things

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Antonio Brown (CTE)

Since he's neither a Steeler, a Raider, nor a Patriot, and apparently retired from the NFL... he's getting his own thread to document this carnival of madness, and the impending prison sentence and bankruptcy.

https://sports.yahoo.com/lawyer-acc...-in-luxury-condo-legal-dispute-192847707.html

Lawyer accuses Antonio Brown of 'reprehensible behavior' during deposition in luxury condo legal dispute
Charles Robinson
NFL columnist
Yahoo Sports
Oct 3, 2019, 3:28 PM

The allegations were detailed in a motion filed by the opposing attorney this week, in the midst of a civil lawsuit against Brown for allegedly causing nearly $100,000 in damages to a luxury high-rise condo rental that Brown inhabited into early 2018. After eight months of legal jabbing between Brown and the owner of the unit, the wideout finally sat for a court-ordered deposition on Sept. 24. According to the opposing attorney, Brown wrecked the proceedings with a litany of “reprehensible behavior”. The lawyer now wants the judge in the case to order a new deposition, with the inclusion of a court-appointed special master who would oversee the proceedings and hold Brown accountable for any actions taken during the session.

Brown’s attorney, Darren Heitner, told Yahoo Sports that a legal response to the allegations and motion was in the process of being prepared for submission to the court as early as Thursday.
Among the incidents highlighted in the motion — which opposing lawyer George Minksi claims “warrants the imposition of monetary sanctions” and more — Brown is alleged to have:

  • Arrived nearly 30 minutes late to the deposition.

  • Acted “belligerent and pugnacious, refusing to answer the most routine of questions, despite there being no objection to the questioning coming from his counsel.”

  • “[C]hanted, over and over, as if a mantra, a narrative of his own warped concept of the proceeding”.

  • “Acting as if he was above the rule of law, [Brown] proceeded to make a mockery of the deposition process. [Brown’s] antics were so unreasonable that barely twenty [20] minutes into the deposition, his counsel asked for a break [so] he could speak with [Brown] about his demeanor.”

  • “When the deposition resumed, [Brown] began texting on his cell phone. Regardless of multiple requests from his own counsel, and from the undersigned, [Brown] continued texting”.

  • “After approximately 20-30 minutes, [Brown] required another break. When the deposition resumed [Brown] increased his level of obstructive behavior. At one point, [Brown] refused to answer any questions, instead saying “next question” no less than 10 times.”

  • “Soon thereafter, [Brown] started announcing a countdown, starting at ‘five (5) minutes,’ and counting down the minutes thereafter. Before noon [Brown] left the conference room.”
To back up the claims made in the motion, the opposing attorney said the recording of the deposition would be filed into record so “the Court may actually see [Brown’s] shenanigans.” A hearing is tentatively scheduled for Oct. 8 to hash out a motion by Brown’s attorneys to either quash the deposition and/or grant a protective order for the video and materials produced in the one that took place on Sept. 24. That would likely help to keep the video from public view, including any media or NFL teams that might still be considering signing Brown in the future.

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2019 Week 6 CFB Open Thread

Thursday, October 3

Georgia Southern (1-3) at South Alabama (1-4), 7:30 p.m. ET, ESPNU

Temple (3-1) at East Carolina (3-2), 8 p.m. ET, ESPN

Friday, October 4

No. 18 UCF (4-1) at Cincinnati (3-1), 8 p.m. ET, ESPN

New Mexico (2-2) at San Jose State (2-2), 10 p.m. ET, CBSSN

Saturday, October 5

Utah State (3-1) at No. 5 LSU (4-0), 12 p.m. ET, SECN

No. 6 Oklahoma (4-0) at Kansas (2-3), 12 p.m. ET, ABC

Kent State (2-2) at No. 8 Wisconsin (4-0), 12 p.m. ET, ESPNU

Purdue (1-3) at No. 12 Penn State (4-0), 12 p.m. ET, ESPN

No. 14 Iowa (4-0) at No. 19 Michigan (3-1), 12 p.m. ET

No. 21 Oklahoma State (4-1) at Texas Tech (2-2), 12 p.m. ET, FS1

South Florida (1-3) at UConn (1-3), 12 p.m. ET

TCU (3-1) at Iowa State (2-2), 12 p.m. ET, ESPN2

Maryland (2-2) at Rutgers (1-3), 12 p.m. ET, BTN

Tulane (3-1) at Army (3-1), 12 p.m. ET, CBSSN

Boston College (3-2) at Louisville (2-2), 12:30 p.m. ET, ACCNX

Eastern Michigan (3-1) at Central Michigan (2-3), 3 p.m. ET, ESPN+

No. 7 Auburn (5-0) at No. 10 Florida (5-0), 3:30 p.m. ET, CBS

Bowling Green (1-3) at No. 9 Notre Dame (3-1), 3:30 p.m. ET, NBC

No. 11 Texas (3-1) at West Virginia (3-1), 3:30 p.m. ET, ABC

Ohio (1-3) at Buffalo (2-3), 3:30 p.m. ET, ESPN+

Western Michigan (3-2) at Toledo (3-1), 3:30 p.m. ET, ESPN+

Ball State (1-3) at Northern Illinois (1-3), 3:30 p.m. ET, ESPN3

Arkansas State (3-2) at Georgia State (2-2), 3:30 p.m. ET, ESPN+

Baylor (4-0) at Kansas State (3-1), 3:30 p.m. ET, ESPN2

Illinois (2-2) at Minnesota (4-0), 3:30 p.m. ET, BTN

Air Force (3-1) at Navy (2-1), 3:30 p.m. ET, CBSSN

Virginia Tech (2-2) at Miami (2-2), 3:30 p.m. ET, ESPN

Marshall (2-2) at Middle Tennessee (1-3), 3:30 p.m. ET

Memphis (4-0) at UL Monroe (2-2), 3:45 p.m. ET, ESPNU

Northwestern (1-3) at Nebraska (3-2), 4 p.m. ET

North Carolina (2-3) at Georgia Tech (1-3), 4 p.m. ET, ACCN

Troy (2-2) at Missouri (3-1), 4 p.m. ET, SECN

Arizona (3-1) at Colorado (3-1), 4:30 p.m. ET

Western Kentucky (2-2) at Old Dominion (1-3), 6 p.m. ET, ESPN+

No. 3 Georgia (4-0) at Tennessee (1-3), 7 p.m. ET, ESPN

Rice (0-5) at UAB (3-1), 7 p.m. ET, ESPN+

UMass (1-4) at Florida International (1-3), 7 p.m. ET, ESPN3

No. 25 Michigan State (4-1) at No. 4 Ohio State (5-0), 7:30 p.m. RY, ABC

Tulsa (2-2) at No. 24 SMU (5-0), 7:30 p.m. ET, ESPNU

Vanderbilt (1-3) at Ole Miss (2-3), 7:30 p.m. ET, SECN

California (4-1) at No. 13 Oregon (3-1), 8 p.m. ET, FOX

Pittsburgh (3-2) at Duke (3-1), 8 p.m. ET, aCCN

Liberty (3-2) at New Mexico State (0-5), 8 p.m. ET

UTSA (1-3) at UTEP (1-3), 8 p.m. ET, eSPN+

Oregon State (1-3) at UCLA (1-4), 9 p.m. ET

San Diego State (3-1) at Colorado State (1-4), 10 p.m. ET, ESPN2

No. 15 Washington (4-1) at Stanford (2-3), 10:30 p.m. ET, ESPN

No. 16 Boise State (4-0) at UNLV (1-3), 10:30 p.m. ET, CBSSN

BTN Big Ten Power Rankings: Top 5 remains the same entering Week 6

Big Ten Power Rankings: Top 5 remains the same entering Week 6
BTN.com staff via Big Ten Network

There's no change to the top 5 of Dave Wannstedt's post-Week 5 Big Ten Power Rankings. Ohio State, fresh off a resounding road win at Nebraska, continues to state its case atop the list, while Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State and Michigan round out the top 5.

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2019 Team thread

started this to talk more general to the team instead of by player or by group.

This year I keep saying that “this is the best I’ve ever seen” for every position group. I am not joking when I say we may have the best units for all 9.

QB- I’d take Fields over anyone. His accuracy, decision making, mobility, strength, and how much he can grow. Sure Tua is possible but give me #1.
RB- maybe UGA or Clemson but Dobbins is #2 in rushing and Master is such a weapon.
WR- Alabama has the best duo and Clemson is good too but do they go 6 deep like we do? No.
TE- not even close it’s us. We have 4 playing regularly.
OL- not even close it’s us.
DL- not even close it’s us.
LB- we have 6 starters. Who else averages 6’3 240 pounds and can run? Give me our group
DB- not even close it’s us.
Kicker- one of the best punters and a kicker that’s really good but just hasn’t been needed.

I’ve never seen this before really...

WOW, just WOW

You guys are really, really good. I mean, we all knew going in you're the best team in the BIG this year. But to put a curb-stompin' of that magnitude vs a not-too-bad Nebraska team was impressive, to say the least.

I think our guys were a bit (!) out of their element on the big stage Sat. night. We're a young team who has not had a ton of big-game, big-exposure experience. Our quarterback was obviously shaken and missed a LOT of receivers early. Our defense, as I had feared, was exposed again on national TV.

Obviously, the talent disparity is huge, and we knew that going in. Nebraska has GOT to find a way to haul in some top-level recruits if this program wants to win some championships ever again. I don't think Nebraska has ever signed a 5-star guy.

The hope around here is that you guys don't beat us twice and that we come out with our hair on fire vs N'Werstern this week. We still have the BIG West in our sights and a decent bowl game at the end of the year.

Anyway, kudos to a great tOSU team. You guys ought to roll over the rest of your schedule, incl. UMich. I'll be pulling for you to get to the playoff and win one for the Big Ten!!

Been great chatting with you guys- I'll be back, but I gotta go visit the Wildcat faithful now. Much respect and adiós for now. L8r!!


Not the victory but the action
Not the goal but the game
In the deed the glory. GO BIG RED!!

#4 too low or just right? Week 5

On my way to work tonight I was listening to the ESPNU channel on XM and needless to say it was a mistake. I knew it was when I got in the truck but I guess I just like to get my blood going haha. They were basically slighting the B1G as a whole saying things like it's a one horse race, unlike the SEC and etc. Then went on to say things like Alabama has played the best, Clemson is still the #1 team, etc so I ran the numbers. I looked up the rankings (total O and D, Rushing O and D as well as Passing O and D) and averaged them.

Here is the data with the averaged ranking in parentheses, number of point scored and allowed and diff.
1. Bama(71.63) 259-74, +185
2. Clemson (69.03) 189-70, +119
3. UGA (81.16) 108-23, +85 (they've only played 4 games and only 3 included since 1 is an FCS team)
4. Ohio St (72.16) 252-43, +219.

Now what stood out to me those most is the total defense Bama has faced averaged to 91.2 and the've only played one defense ranked better than #90, Duke at #29. UGA's averaged total defense ranking? 89. with only ND inside the top 100 at #40. Clemsons is 79.4 while Ohio St's 80.4

Offense rankings show Bama playing the "best" offenses at 52.6, following by Clemson at 58.6, Ohio St at 62.2 and UGA pulling up the rear at 73.

By the metrics and on film, its obvious Alabama and Ohio St are playing the best of the 4 teams and it's not even close. UGA just isnt explosive, they don't have the burst, Alabama's offense is spectacular but their rushing game is weak, Clemson is just meh. Not sure if they just havent hit stride or if they're just not as good as they were thought to be.


As far as the B1G being weak, that is just a farce, IMO. No statistical data to back that up as of now but Wisc has literally literally dominated every team they've played outside of NW and PSU just put up 60, again.

What does everyone think?

Also, I normally do statistical breakdowns of various things in the off season if it's something that interests people.

HOLA Bucknuts!! (Just funnin, do I get to say BuckNUTS?)

Hey fellow football freaks. HeftyHusker (realist) checking in just before game time tomorrow.

Our Offense has been pretty good so far, if we can only stay clear of disastrous turnovers and penalties. I think we may be able to score some.

HOWEVER:

Our Defense has been deplorable vs good teams since Suh left 10 years ago, and that will be the difference in this game. We're going to lose, but I hope we can keep you under 60. I've learned not to expect much defensively.

You'll get it done tomorrow, and we'll pin our hopes on beating Wisky for a signature win for the year. At least we'll make a bowl game this year. That'll be nice for a change.

Good luck and hopefully injuries will be kept to a minimum on both sides.

"Not the goal but the game,
Not the victory but the action
In the deed the glory"
GO BIG RED!!

CFB Weekly Thread 2019 Week 5 CFB Open Thread

Thursday, Sept. 26
Delaware State at North Carolina A&T | 7:30 p.m. | ESPNU
Navy at Memphis | 8 p.m. | ESPN

Friday, Sept. 27
Duke at Virginia Tech | 7 p.m. | ESPN
Brown at Harvard | 7 p.m. | ESPNews
No. 12 Penn State at Maryland | 8 p.m. | FS1
San Jose State at Air Force | 8 p.m. | CBSSN
Arizona State at No. 15 California | 10:30 p.m. | ESPN

Saturday, Sept. 28
Texas Tech at No. 6 Oklahoma | 12 p.m. | FOX
Northern Illinois at Vanderbilt | 12 p.m. | SEC Network
No. 23 Texas A&M vs. Arkansas (Arlington, TX) | 12 p.m. | ESPN
BYU at Toledo | 12 p.m. | ESPN+
Northwestern at No. 8 Wisconsin | 12 p.m. | ABC
Middle Tennessee at No. 14 Iowa | 12 p.m. | ESPN2
Holy Cross at Syracuse | 12 p.m. | ACC Network
Central Michigan at Western Michigan | 12 p.m. | CBSSN
Kansas at TCU | 12 p.m. | FS1
Rutgers at No. 20 Michigan | 12 p.m. | Big Ten Network
Buffalo at Miami (OH) | 12 p.m. | ESPNU
Long Island University at Wagner | 12 p.m. | ESPN3
Delaware at Pitt | 12:30 p.m. | ACC Network Extra
Cornell at Yale | 1 p.m. | ESPN+
NC Wesleyan at Stetson | 1 p.m. | ESPN+
East Tennessee State at Furman | 1 p.m. | ESPN+
Georgetown at Columbia | 1 p.m. | ESPN+
Bethune-Cookman at Howard | 1 p.m. | ESPN3
Wofford at VMI | 1:30 p.m. | ESPN+
Charleston (WV) at Valparaiso | 2 p.m. | ESPN+
Jacksonville State at Austin Peay | 3 p.m. | ESPN+
The Citadel at Samford | 3 p.m. | ESPN+
No. 1 Clemson at North Carolina | 3:30 p.m. | ABC
No. 21 Southern California at No. 17 Washington | 3:30 p.m. | FOX
Coastal Carolina at Appalachian State | 3:30 p.m. | ESPN+
Georgia Tech at Temple | 3:30 p.m. | CBSSN
Wake Forest at Boston College | 3:30 p.m. | ACC Network
Iowa State at Baylor | 3:30 p.m. | ESPN
No. 18 Virginia at No. 10 Notre Dame | 3:30 p.m. | NBC
Ole Miss at No. 2 Alabama | 3:30 p.m. | CBS
Indiana at No. 25 Michigan State | 3:30 p.m. | Big Ten Network
Florida Atlantic at Charlotte | 3:30 p.m. | NFL Network
Minnesota at Purdue | 3:30 p.m. | ESPN2
Akron at UMass | 3:30 p.m. | FloSports
Towson at No. 9 Florida | 4 p.m. | SEC Network
SMU at South Florida | 4 p.m. | ESPNU
Western Carolina at Chattanooga | 4 p.m. | ESPN+
Presbyterian College at North Alabama | 4 p.m. | ESPN+
Florida A&M at Norfolk State | 4 p.m. | ESPN3
Cincinnati at Marshall | 5 p.m. | CBSSN on Facebook
Tennessee Tech at Eastern Illinois | 5 p.m. | ESPN3
East Carolina at Old Dominion | 6 p.m. | ESPN+
New Mexico at Liberty | 6 p.m. | ESPN+
Arkansas State at Troy | 6 p.m. | ESPN+
Louisiana at Georgia Southern | 6 p.m. | ESPN+
Robert Morris at Youngstown State | 6 p.m. | ESPN+
Tennessee State at Eastern Kentucky | 6 p.m. | ESPN+
North Carolina Central at Morgan State | 6 p.m. | ESPN3
Colgate at Dartmouth | 6 p.m. | ESPN+
Reinhardt at Kennesaw State | 6 p.m. | ESPN+
Mississippi State at No. 7 Auburn | 7 p.m. | ESPN
Stanford at Oregon State | 7 p.m. | Pac-12 Networks
UConn at No. 22 UCF | 7 p.m. | ESPN2
South Alabama at UL Monroe | 7 p.m. | ESPN+
UTEP at Southern Miss | 7 p.m. | ESPN+
UAB at Western Kentucky | 7 p.m. | ESPN+
Louisiana Tech at Rice | 7 p.m. | ESPN3
Nicholls at Texas State | 7 p.m. | ESPN3
No. 24 Kansas State at Oklahoma State | 7 p.m. | Big 12 Now on ESPN+
Abilene Christian at Incarnate Word | 7 p.m. | ESPN3
Texas Southern at Houston Baptist | 7 p.m. | ESPN3
Stephen F. Austin at Lamar | 7 p.m. | ESPN+
Sam Houston State at McNeese | 7 p.m. | ESPN+
Campbell at Mercer | 7 p.m. | ESPN3
Nicholls at Texas State | 7 p.m. | ESPN3
Murray State at UT Martin | 7 p.m. | ESPN+
Southern at Arkansas-Pine Bluff | 7 p.m. | ESPN3
N.C. State at Florida State | 7:30 p.m. | ACC Network
No. 5 Ohio State at Nebraska | 7:30 p.m. | ABC
Colorado State at Utah State | 7:30 p.m. | CBSSN
Kentucky at South Carolina | 7:30 p.m. | SEC Network
UNLV at Wyoming | 8 p.m. | ESPNU
Houston at North Texas | 8 p.m. | CBSSN on Facebook
Fresno State at New Mexico State | 8 p.m. | FloSports
Washington State at No. 19 Utah | 10 p.m. | FS1
UCLA at Arizona | 10:30 p.m. | ESPN
Hawai'i at Nevada | 10:30 p.m. | ESPN2

QB J. P. Andrade (transfer to Jackson St.)

J.P. ANDRADE

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    • QUARTERBACK
    • HEIGHT 6-3
    • WEIGHT 205
    • HOMETOWN LA VERNE, CALIF.
    • LAST SCHOOL BONITA
    • YEAR FRESHMAN
J.P. Andrade committed to Ohio State in April of 2019 as a preferred walk-on, turning down scholarship offers from South Alabama, Fordham and Morehead State in the process and preferred walk-on status at a Southeastern Conference school … Andrade led all state of California passers in completions as a senior in 2018 for coach Steve Bogan and Bonita High School, completing 299 of his 449 attempts for 4,366 yards and 39 touchdowns, all of which are school records … named offensive MVP of the Palomares League in 2019 after leading Bonita to a 10-3 season on the field … also named the Saginaw Valley Tribune player of the year … threw for 9,423 yards in his career including finishing No. 3 in California history with 702 completions … a Nike regional invitee to The Open … two-time team captain as a junior and a senior.

https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/roster/j-p-andrade/


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Andrade is a walk-on quarterback from La Verne, California, who also joined the Buckeyes this summer. He has not seen any playing time for the Buckeyes, but drew praise from quarterbacks coach and passing game coordinator Mike Yurcich last week for the effort he has put in on the scout team, where he has also lined up at wide receiver.

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...io-state-freshmen-to-shed-their-black-stripes

BTN Big Ten Power Rankings: Wisconsin takes over No. 2 spot in post-Week 4 list

Big Ten Power Rankings: Wisconsin takes over No. 2 spot in post-Week 4 list
BTN.com staff via Big Ten Network

The No. 1 team's the same for the third straight week, but there's a new No. 2 in Dave Wannstedt's latest Big Ten Power Rankings. The Badgers, fresh off their win vs. Michigan, now sit behind Ohio State. See Coach's latest power poll inside.

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BTN Big Ten announces players to attend men’s basketball media days

Big Ten announces players to attend men’s basketball media days
Brent Yarina, BTN.com Senior Editor via Big Ten Network

Big Ten Men's Basketball Media Day is Wednesday, Oct. 2, meaning it's time to release the list of standout who will be attending the annual event. BigTen.org released the official list Monday, and it can be viewed inside.

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