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Awesome stuff Steve. I agree wholeheartedly.

I just don't want BP to get to a point where folks are afraid, within reason, to voice an opinion, because they will be consistently shouted down. When we descend into pettiness and bickering and open debate and conversation are non existent, then we have truly lost.

Personally, I have taken my own hiatus from BP (I know no one even knew I was gone when I did it :sad:), as have others and come back to enjoy what is the BEST Buckeye site on the interwebs. I appreciate Clarity, our Mods, and the overwhelming majority of posters on the site.

Go Bucks!
Maybe it is just that I live overseas and I miss something, but if you post something and others don't like it, so what? Don't take it personally. Move on. Maybe YOU ARE that person with the insight everyone else lacks. Your day will come to remind us that you told us so...or to thank goodness everyone forgot you said something so silly.

I guess my point is that social media should not be that important in anyone's life (and I'm not referring to anyone here). We have a generation that conflates "likes" with real affection, supportive comments with friendship, posts with meaningful contributions to civilization. It's not.

It can however enrich your life. I have become friends for life with several people, even the best man at one's wedding. Watched people change over years. Enjoyed the looks of happiness that I see on their faces with their families and known, after so many years away from my birthplace, that I do not hope alone every year that the Buckeyes stomp the living daylights out of TSUN. I know that people on this site are tailgating together before games and among the faces I see in the stands. So, although my life is far richer than I ever imagined it might be, it is enriched by being part of this community.

So, really. My point is to take it all in perspective. Be well. Be happy.
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CFB Weekly Thread 2017 CFB Week 4 Open Thread

Didn't watch the game. Was Iowa that good or were the pedsters underwhelming playing their first team with a pulse?

Iowas defense played textbook bend but don't break until the bitter end. Problem with Joe Moorhead's offense is that it really exploits the seams between the 20s because all receivers have a hot skinny post route if the safeties cheat up to stop the run, and McSorely hits em. That's magnified when you've got a talent like Barkley that can rush and run routes like a receiver.

The downside to Moorhead's offense is that it can't do what it's designed to exploit in the red zone because there is not enough room.

Make your open field tackles and clamp down in the red zone. Iowa did that. Ohio States secondary right now though... I don't know.

Gonna be a tall task. Unfortunately all Ohio States elite DBs are playing on the wrong day of the week this year.
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Google Buckeyes' romp over Rebels gets passing grade - Canton Repository

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Buckeyes' romp over Rebels gets passing grade
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But some games serve as one. Thanks, UNLV, for your time, and enjoy your $1.3 million check for showing up. No. 10 Ohio State's 54-21 victory over the sacrificial Rebels in front of 106,187 sun-baked fans at Ohio Stadium will be a footnote in this season.
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Google Harrison hopes to return soon; photo's of the 5-star DE - 247Sports

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Harrison hopes to return soon; photo's of the 5-star DE
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Google Watch: Walk-on CJ Saunders realizes dream with touchdown catch - 247Sports

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Watch: Walk-on CJ Saunders realizes dream with touchdown catch
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He had college opportunities to do different things. But he took former OSU assistant Luke Fickell's invitation to walk on to the Buckeyes' football team seriously. Saunders had grown up watching OSU receivers catch touchdowns at Ohio Stadium. On ...

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Google Ohio State builds big halftime lead vs. UNLV - Dayton Daily News

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Ohio State builds big halftime lead vs. UNLV
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Ohio State's Parris Campbell runs after a catch for a 69-yard touchdown against UNLV in the first half on Saturday, Sept. 23, 2017, at Ohio Stadium in Columbus. COLUMBUS. The No. 10 Ohio State Buckeyes set a school record with six touchdown catches by ...


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Google Ohio State football: Buckeyes stay put in Land of 10 Power Poll - Landof10.com

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Ohio State football: Buckeyes stay put in Land of 10 Power Poll
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Plus, Ohio State's last two wins told us pretty much nothing about how the Buckeyes fit into the conference hierarchy. Other than that, there's not a lot of excitement down the rest of the ballot. I still maintain that Indiana is a really good team ...
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Google Ohio State opens as a 28.5-point favorite against Rutgers: Buckeyes football news -...

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Ohio State opens as a 28.5-point favorite against Rutgers: Buckeyes football news
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Ohio State opens as a 28.5-point favorite against Rutgers: Buckeyes football news. Comment. Updated on September 24, 2017 at 8:05 PM Posted on September 24, 2017 at 7:54 PM. J.K. Dobbins and the Ohio State Buckeyes opened as 28.5-point favorites ...


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Google Ohio State dropped again in the AP Top 25, but it doesn't matter - Landof10.com

Ohio State dropped again in the AP Top 25, but it doesn't matter - Landof10.com
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Ohio State dropped again in the AP Top 25, but it doesn't matter
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The Buckeyes fell from second to eighth following their loss to Oklahoma, an understandable demotion given the nature of that defeat. But a 38-7 win against Army led to a drop from eighth to 10th, and AP voters moved Ohio State back another spot to ...
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Google Ohio State visit 'the best' yet for Noah Potter, plus what happens with Dwan Mathis...

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Ohio State visit 'the best' yet for Noah Potter, plus what happens with Dwan Mathis committing to Michigan State
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Justin Ahrens, a one-time commitment of Thad Matta, commits to new Ohio State basketball staff: Buckeyes recruiting
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Google OSU closing in on Florida OL after second visit in three weeks? - 247Sports

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OSU closing in on Florida OL after second visit in three weeks?
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Tarquin was impressed with the Buckeyes' offensive line. “They have a great offensive line,” Tarquin said. “They are really physical, aggressive, tough, very athletic. I like the way they play.” The 6-foot-5 and 290-pound tackle has 18 scholarship ...


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Google Watch: Breakout day for converted defensive end Rashod Berry - 247Sports

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Watch: Breakout day for converted defensive end Rashod Berry
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In his first real significant minutes as an offensive performer at Ohio State, redshirt sophomore Rashod Berry recorded his first career touchdown reception in the Buckeyes' 54-21 rout of UNLV. Berry scored on a 38-yard catch-and-run from Dwayne ...
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LGHL Ohio State drops to No. 11 in AP Poll

Ohio State drops to No. 11 in AP Poll
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The blowout win of UNLV did not help the Buckeyes.

The Ohio State Buckeyes smashed the UNLV Rebels on Saturday, 54-21. However, that win didn’t help Urban Meyer’s program at all in regards to the AP Poll. The Buckeyes fell back one spot to No. 11, as TCU and Georgia leaped into the Top 10 after big wins over the weekend.

Below is how the new AP Top 25 Poll looks heading into Week 5.


As mentioned, the big movers on the week were the TCU Horned Frogs, who beat then-No. 6 Oklahoma State on the road, 44-31. Georgia, the other team to leap into the Top 10, beat then-No. 17 Mississippi State, 31-3, at home.

Expect more movement in the next edition of the polls, as the headline matchup this Saturday is No. 2 Clemson traveling to take on No. 12 Virginia Tech.

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Google Justin Ahrens re-commits to Ohio State: Buckeyes land in-state recruit — again - Landof10.com

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Justin Ahrens re-commits to Ohio State: Buckeyes land in-state recruit — again
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Justin Ahrens decommitted from Ohio State after the program parted ways with Thad Matta. Now he's a Buckeye again. Ohio y'all ready? There's no place like HOME..❤ COMMITTED ⚪ #GoBucks pic.twitter.com/H40nvDr0XM. — Justin Ahrens•• ...
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LGHL 2018 4-star SF Justin Ahrens commits to Ohio State

2018 4-star SF Justin Ahrens commits to Ohio State
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Ohio State has their fouth commit in a week.

On June 6, after months of being a member of Ohio State’s 2018 recruiting class, Justin Ahrens decommitted from the Buckeyes, just a day removed from Thad Matta stepping down as head coach. Ahrens shifted his focus to Michigan, Dayton, Xavier and Cincinnati, while Ohio State searched for a new coach.

Shortly after, Chris Holtmann was hired to replace Matta, and despite Ahrens’ decommitment, the new look Buckeye coaching staff was still highly intrigued by the Versailles, Ohio product. Ahrens received an official offer from the Buckeyes on July 17, and with Holtmann leading the way, Ohio State surged in the race for the four-star small forward.

After visiting Xavier and Michigan in August, Ahrens headed up to Columbus this weekend, taking in the sights of Columbus at the Ohio State-UNLV football game, and talking to Chris Holtmann and his staff about a possible recommitment to the Buckeyes.

Obviously, Ahrens was sold, as just moments ago, fresh off that visit, the 6-foot-5, 181-pound wing committed to the Buckeyes, spurning Michigan and Xavier, both of whom had been considered the teams to beat for months.


Ohio y'all ready? There's no place like HOME..❤️ COMMITTED ⚪#GoBucks pic.twitter.com/H40nvDr0XM

— Justin Ahrens•• (@ahrensjustin12) September 24, 2017

Ahrens is the fourth commit in Ohio State’s 2018 class, along with guards Duane Washington and Luther Muhammad, and forward Jaedon LeDee. All four recruits have committed in the past week, making this easily the most impressive week thus far of Chris Holtmann’s short tenure.

With Ahrens commitment, the Buckeyes moves up to ninth in the national class rankings and fifth in the Big Ten for the 2018 recruiting cycle.

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Google Buckeyes' romp over Rebels gets passing grade - New Philadelphia Times Reporter

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Buckeyes' romp over Rebels gets passing grade
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But some games serve as one. Thanks, UNLV, for your time, and enjoy your $1.3 million check for showing up. No. 10 Ohio State's 54-21 victory over the sacrificial Rebels in front of 106,187 sun-baked fans at Ohio Stadium will be a footnote in this season.


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LGHL Ohio State’s passing game got plenty of practice vs. UNLV

Ohio State’s passing game got plenty of practice vs. UNLV
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Both Barrett and Haskins spread the ball around efficiently, but things got a little sloppy

Despite a record-setting performance, we didn’t end up learning a ton about the Buckeyes. However, the backups — including Dwayne Haskins! — got plenty of work in. With meetings with Penn State, Iowa and Michigan left on the schedule, Ohio State has some tough defenses that they’ll have to face, so at least the backups were able to get in playing time while they could.

With backups playing so much it’s no surprise that Ohio State had a little bit of a sloppy game, but some of the biggest mistakes were actually by starters, including Kendall Sheffield’s penalties and coverage, Campbell’s fumble, and the offensive line allowing a few sacks. But really we’re just nitpicking — the Buckeyes mostly took care of business while the game was competitive.


In the table above, scoring opportunity efficiency looks at the average points scored per scoring opportunity -- drives with a first down past the opponents' 40-yard line. Drive efficiency looks at the percentage of drives that were scoring opportunities. Rushing opportunity rate is the % of runs that gained five or more yards. Rushing stuff rate is the % of runs that were for no gain or a loss. Explosive plays are 12+ yard runs and 20+ yard passes here. This table only includes non-garbage time numbers — here, garbage time kicked in with 12:39 left in the second quarter when Ohio State went up 30-0. At that point both teams had run only 21 plays — so we’re dealing with very small sample sizes in the above advanced stats (not that you should take too much from them anyway)!

Offense: Work in the passing game


Key stats:

  • 67% passing success rate
  • 44% passing explosive rate
  • 100% drive efficiency

It was pretty clear that UNLV simply offered some extended passing practice for Ohio State’s offense. With five different receivers catching a touchdown in the first half and the team setting a school record for passing offense in a game, it was nothing more or less than passing practice. But for additional context, the offense’s 62 percent success rate was their third highest since 2014 — last week’s game against Army and the 2016 season opener vs. Bowling Green were higher.

Here are Ohio State’s success rates and explosive rates by down:


The third down success rate is a little deceptive because the offense only had two third down attempts in their five drives and 21 overall plays before garbage time took over.

That was because Ohio State dominated first and second down — and especially second down, where almost half of their plays went for 15 or more yards.

About all you can say about the offense’s performance here was that at least they took care of business against an inferior opponent — which isn’t guaranteed. Unfortunately I don’t have game-by-game passing success rate numbers, but J.T.’s 12.3 yards per attempt was his third-highest as Ohio State’s starting quarterback.

With a third of their plays going for 15+ yards in their first five drives, it’s no wonder that the offense was able to turn every single possession into a scoring opportunity (a first down inside the opponent’s 40 yard line). We saw a similar offensive gameplan as we did against Army — lots of perimeter passing and RPOs, with maybe a little more intermediate work.

And just for the curious: Haskins’ success rate = 52 percent (J.T. = 67 percent), Haskins’ explosiveness rate = 22 percent (J.T. = 44%). These aren’t really fair comparisons though, since Haskins was playing with second- and third-string offenses, and it’s unclear what personnel UNLV had on the field. Either way, Haskins sure does have a cannon though — he might have even had more zip on his passes than Cardale.

Defense: Disruptive, but sloppy


Key stats:

  • 44% rushing success rate
  • 33% rushing stuffed rate
  • 24% havoc rate allowed
  • 20% drive efficiency

In the preview I wrote that UNLV actually has a pretty decent offense, all things considered. And as Ohio State began to rotate in backups, we saw glimpses of that offense. Freshman quarterback Armani Reeves Rogers played well, all things considering. But pressure from the defensive line ultimately was too much to keep things close for more than a quarter.

Before the game entered garbage time, UNLV faced six third downs. They converted one of those through a 12-yard pass on third-and-5. One other was a complete pass, but short of the first down. Two were sacks (Jerome Baker for one, and Tyquan Lewis and Malik Harrison for the other). But the last two were first downs from penalties — both from Kendall Sheffield (holding and pass interference). Those penalties were the sole reasons that UNLV was able to create a scoring opportunity at all while Ohio State’s first team defense was on the field. Sheffield often had a tough assignment by having to cover Devonte Boyd, but it wasn’t a great look for the secondary nonetheless.

Besides the penalties and still shaky coverage, the defensive line continues to be dominant. They forced an interception, sack, or other tackle for loss on about a quarter of UNLV’s plays before rotating to a freshman-heavy unit. Overall about 19 percent of tackles were for a loss in the game, with Nick Bosa pitching in a team-high of three.

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ET Football: Carthage scores 27 fourth-quarter points to overcome Gilmer, 48-28
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The Buckeyes went 86 yards in five plays to answer the Carthage score as Brown and Heath paired up from 20 yards out at 5:11. Keys plays in the drive were a 34-yard reception by Tra Fluellen and a 28-yard Rashard Ward run to move deep into plus ...
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BTN Big Ten Power Rankings: Penn State bolsters case in post-Week 4 list

Big Ten Power Rankings: Penn State bolsters case in post-Week 4 list
Tom Dienhart, BTN.com Senior Writer via Big Ten Network

Penn State provided more evidence of its championship stock by finding a way to win against all odds at Iowa. And, it’s time to move Michigan up my latest Big Ten Power Rankings, presented by ArcelorMittal. Could the Wolverines be the best in the East? [ MORE: Week 4 video | Best of Week 4 | Week 4 predictions revisited ] See my latest list below. 1. Penn State (4-0). With Superman Saquon on their side, the Nittany Lions are going to be a tough out. Last week: 1 Up next: Indiana 2. Wisconsin (3-0). If QB Alex Hornibrook keeps
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BTN Best of Week 4: Grades, individual honors, stock watch & numbers

Best of Week 4: Grades, individual honors, stock watch & numbers
Tom Dienhart, BTN.com Senior Writer via Big Ten Network

A wild Week 4 saw Penn State pull out a magical win at Iowa that makes you think this could be another special year for the Nittany Lions. And Michigan is looking better and better, while Ohio State continues to fine-tune for bigger games to come.
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