Tanner said:

I think it's unfair when people criticize him and say the fatal flaw in his approach was trying to modernize Wisconsin's offense. I imagine the plan was we'll get our usual lineman and running backs and then modernize the passing game with better schemes and better players. A reasonable plan. There's no law against being good at running and throwing. Wisconsin had been trying to beat people 17-13 forever---that's a pretty hard thing to do in 2025. I mean, do people think he was recruiting 240 pound lineman?

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You probably make a good point. You're probably right. But I don't think teams can get away with changing their personalities that easily. Barry Alvarez made Wisconsin a pound-it-down-your-throat running team. Run to set up a pass. I think if you start to abandon that style, the players who like playing in that style are going to stop committing, or transfer out. And with the transfer rules in place, they can transfer out faster than the "modern-style" players can transfer in.
Of course, this is probably all bullshit. Didn't Oklahoma - a power run team - switch to a more modern offense in the late 90s or early 2000s?

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Or the potential lawsuits......

cincibuck said:

My impression from talking to Kent State alums is that everyone goes home for the weekend. There's no there, there.

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I went there in the early 90s. That was some bad football. 3 wins in my 4 years there. My Sophomore year I had a roommate from the Pittsburgh area that would go home a lot on the weekends.

Kent State football is a stepping stone program for coaches to get a better job if they have success. I blame them for not hiring Nick Saban in 1987.

Zurp said:

And I don't blame them for doing it.
What do they get for these games? $500k for each? Maybe more? Probably more?
On top of that, they can go to their recruits and try to sell them on Kent State with "Yeah, you didn't get recruited by the power schools, but if you come here, you'll still get a chance to play in their stadiums."
Kent State probably knows they'll never crawl their way out of where they are - a lower-tier G5 school. Might as well get some money to pay for the rest of their sports along the way, and who knows - they might be able to pull off an Appy State vs. the cheaters at some point.
Oh - another reason they're never going to get any better is the changing of the transfer rules. The moment a player emerges from a team in the MAC or other G5 conference, they're going to transfer to a team that can pay more for NIL and have a chance to get to and win the championship.

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They got $1.5 million from Oklahoma and $1.2 million from Florida State.

thackattack said:

Reminded me of another last play against Wisconsin to prevent a score. Believe that it was Josh Proctor laying the wood…

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Yep. Proctor almost murdered Jack Coan at the end of the 2019 B1G Championship Game.

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Looked good yesterday.

brodybuck21 said:

Yeah he did

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He did, but he’s also relatively new to football compared to his teammates - only been focusing on it for a couple years now. That experience probably benefits him more than the rest given he’s catching up. The fact that he’s taking snaps from elder DB’s is impressive.

Joey was on the kick coverage teams today

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Just sayin': The absolute worst special teams play of the year (so far). WTF went wrong here?

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Obviously somebody (maybe #83) needed to establish "containment of the punter" on the strong side of the field and 2 players (#28 and a blur at the 33 yard line) need to tackle better. The guy wasn't a sprinter, RB, and/or WR; he was just a frickin punter who scrambled for approx. (15 + 36 =) 35 yards.

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Personally I think this Juck guy is annoying asf and whines like a baby most of the time, but this clip of Lanning crashing out is great lolz.

Today we’d have to sit there and watch Herbstriet cry for 6 hours

heisman said:

Oh, but they do.

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I thought that was Private car Chicago

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The hit at 31 seconds in needs to be a permanent GIF on here!

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Ace Frehley

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Carson Hinzman Returns to Home State of Wisconsin With “A Lot More Confidence” Than Two Years Ago​

A look back at Ohio State’s game film from when it last played Wisconsin showed Carson Hinzman just how far he’s come over the past two years.

“It was rough,” Hinzman said, laughing and shaking his head. “I had no idea really what I was doing. I was just kind of playing ball and hoping stuff didn't go wrong.”

While Hinzman was Ohio State’s starting center for the Buckeyes’ October 2023 game at Camp Randall Stadium, that 24-10 win in Madison came amid a roller-coaster first season in the lineup for the Wisconsin native. Thrust into starting duty a year earlier than expected after Luke Wypler entered the NFL draft, Hinzman struggled throughout the 2023 season, ultimately leading to his benching for the season-ending Cotton Bowl.

Now that he’s the experienced veteran of Ohio State’s offensive line, Hinzman returns to his home state as a far more confident player this time around.

“Two years ago, I mean, playing a lot more reactionary. I didn't really fully understand why things were going on or what was happening. I kind of had to rely a lot more on the guys around me,” Hinzman said. “But now it's a different position where I get to kind of step into a little bit more of a leadership role and have a lot of the guys kind of rely on me and what I'm looking at and how I can see what's happening and kind of diagnose that. So it's the same position, but completely different feel for the game.”
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teeedawg 13 hours ago
Per Birm, he's hearing nothing but optimism from Ohio State's side on EDGE Dre Quinn.
They are waiting to see his answer before they turn to backup options like Jackson Ford.

When it comes to Howard, TCUN is an anagram

I'm sure after committing he'll fall to a 3 star

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USC success vs. Michigan​

1. Attack the interior, force the defense to overcommit, then work outside Because Michigan gave up so many rushing yards, USC used gap-run schemes to test the defensive line and linebackers. Once Michigan’s front seven had to lean into run support, USC could threaten to stretch toward the edges or with RPOs.
2. Use misdirection, counters, and cutbacks Big rushing yards often come when defenders are pulled one way and then the play cuts back. The 49-yard 3rd-down run indicates that Michigan’s pursuit, containment, or alignment was thrown off. USC used counter to really exploit Michigan’s run defense.
3. Leverage QB reads/RPOs to freeze defenders USC used RPO plays (or at least had a threat of QB run), and defenders became conflicted. If a linebacker or safety cheats toward the run, you throw; if they drop or stay, you run. That hesitation in the defense is gold.
4. Maximize protection, delay pressure, and neutralize blitzes Because Michigan got zero sacks, USC’s protection must have been solid. They used slide protections, chip blocks, or quick-release route concepts (e.g. short throws, screens, check-downs) whenever Michigan showed blitz or pressure.
5. Scripted early drives/tempo to exploit soft spots before adjustments Many offenses script their first 10–15 plays knowing the defense has limited time to adjust. USC likely ran a strong early script to test Michigan’s run fits and coverage matchups. Also, the tempo or cadence changes can prevent the defense from substituting or aligning perfectly.
6. Isolate matchups in space USC’s receivers and backs could take advantage of Michigan’s second-level defenders or safeties. If Michigan had to bring linebackers into coverage, USC could send a back or a receiver to exploit that matchup. The pass-yielding numbers in the game (USC 265 passing yards) suggest Michigan’s coverage was punished.
7. Sustain drives, convert third downs, wear down defense Converting 50% of third downs shows USC’s offense didn’t settle. They likely kept moving the chains (a mix of runs, passes, intermediate routes) so Michigan’s defense couldn’t rest or rotate. The cumulative effect of long drives wears down front-line defenders.

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How Michigan’s defensive scheme may have failed​

Even the best schematic offense can fail vs a disciplined defense, but in this case, based on film, Michigan’s struggles weren’t just about bad plays — they were also scheme-related or caused by being forced into reactive positions.
Here are likely failure points on Michigan’s side:

• Poor tackling/missed angles: 14 missed tackles is a lot. Even if your scheme is tight, missed fundamentals kill your defense.
• Inability to generate pressure /pass rush breakdowns: Without pressure, USC’s QB and receivers had time. Michigan didn’t convert that schematic edge into execution.
• Overcommitment to the run or misread reactions: USC may have baited Michigan into overpursuit or misalignment, then punished with cutbacks or play-action.
• Fatigue on the front lines/ personnel rotation: If USC sustained long drives, Michigan’s defensive front could have worn down, losing leverage on blocks and gap control.
• Rigid assignments/inability to adjust in-game: USC adjusted mid-game (e.g. adding screens, changing run directions) and Michigan’s defense couldn’t counter quickly.
• Suboptimal matchups in coverage: If Michigan put linebackers or safeties in coverage on faster receivers or backs, USC likely schemed to target those mismatches (e.g. crossing routes, drag routes, option routes).