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Zwick vs. Smith (official thread)

I used to think that JZ was going to be the best QB for the Bucks long-term. But the scUM game got me to change my mind. Troy's mobility is excellent, and he had some nice touch on several throws in that game.

JZ's gutsy performance in the Alamo Bowl was great to see, though. He earned a healthy dose of respect from his teammates and from me.

That said, I'm fine with whomever the coaches decide to play, and it's great having 2 or 3 guys that can handle the job. The improved play of the O-Line and the threat of #7 and our other receivers should allow our QB, whoever he is, to function well.

Be easy!
 
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I'm not convinced that JZ can be better than TS. He might be able to be as good of a passer or maybe just slightly better, but he can't bring the same mobility to the table. I think he can be Craig Krenzel in terms of running, but Smith just has another gear over those two.

The big thing most have not touched on is that Smith's athleticism can lighten the load on our short depth chart at RB. If he can be efficient as a QB in the air and on the ground, we will not have to cross our fingers as much everytime Pittman & Haw go down hard.
 
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i agree both can and definetly have..but i'm still going to go with smith for one reason. after a three game slump he came in and lit a fire under us against indiana. plus it doesnt hurt to get the big W against that team we dont speak of.
 
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I am for whoever the coaches play. Both have and will win us games.

I like the extra options smith brings, but I'd have to say as of this moment I'm a 51-49 zwick lean. My reason why is simple...how many mobile qb's have played against us and had alot of sucess? I know smith isn't playing our D, I'm just saying if we have a good D and can shut down a mobile qb - why can't other teams do it to us?

I am not against smith at all (like I said I like the options) I'm just not 100% for him yet... I am not above being proved wrong though, as long as we win baby!:)
 
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R0CK3TM4NN said:
Definitely no platooning.
I agree. We've got to stick with one QB for reasons that have been said a million times in other threads. I say we go with the QB that has the best spring. Both QBs looked good at times last year (JZ against Marshall and Okla. St., TS against Michigan), but both also looked not-so-good (JZ against N.C. State, TS against Purdue). Right now I might give the slight edge to TS, b/c (although as I've said before that it was only one game) I absolutely loved watching him tear apart scUM, both by running and throwing the ball.
 
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I am definately a Smith fan, however I think Zwick has the potential to be really good. Someone just needs to pull it out of him.

My vote - Smith

Edit: Ya know... we probably should've waited till after the spring game to have one of these polls. That way we could see the progress of all three QB's
 
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Since were talking about Justin Zaick and Troy Smith, I figured this article from todays Dispatch (4/21) would be pretty suiting:

(P.S. I vote Smith, just for the fact that he ... EDIT: LET'S LEAVE PURE SPECULATION ABOUT CURRENT PLAYERS OUT OF THE DISCUSSION PLEASE - THANKS - 3YARDS. And, IMO hes just a better leader while bringing more levels to his game than Zwick).



------------------------------------------------------------------------Smith will be free to roam
Gray picks shifty QB, who’s allowed to run this spring
Thursday, April 21, 2005
Tim May
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
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Unlike a year ago, Troy Smith will be free to do his thing in Saturday’s Ohio State Scarlet and Gray game, which is the reason why the Gray made him the first overall pick in yesterday’s draft of players.

The Gray spokesman, fullback Brandon Schnittker, said they might have been leaning toward versatile receiver/returner Ted Ginn Jr. But their coach — offensive coordinator Jim Bollman — told them that, unlike last year, the quarterbacks will not be saddled with a "don’t hit me" black jersey.

"With Troy being able to run, I think we can exploit his talent a little bit," Schnittker said.

Ginn’s playing time might be limited to decrease his chances for injury. But that didn’t keep the Scarlet from snapping him up after they had taken last year’s other starting quarterback, Justin Zwick.

"You’ve got to understand that Justin is mobile, too," said the Scarlet spokesman, linebacker Anthony Schlegel, who won’t play as a precaution after having arthroscopic knee surgery in January.

"I think Ted’s versatility — we can put him wherever we want to — we can put him at quarterback (he played some quarterback in the Alamo Bowl win over Oklahoma State). We can do whatever we want.

"They were happy they got Troy. We were happy we got Teddy."

Smith wasn’t available for comment, but he likely was happy to learn he won’t be restricted to the pocket. In last year’s spring game, he and Zwick were in a pitched competition for the starting job, but Smith, talented as much as a runner as he is a passer, was not allowed to run.

"Last year we were focusing on staying with rhythmic reads and throwaways, and things like that, which are crucial to learn," coach Jim Tressel said yesterday. "In this particular case, the quarterbacks are allowed to do the whole gamut.

"I think it’s good for our defense. There are some pretty great quarterbacks up on that schedule we’re playing (including Texas’ Vince Young on Sept. 10), and I think it’s really good for our defense to constantly understand the (running) quarterback is an element to defend as well."

Saturday will be Smith’s first public viewing since he was suspended before the Alamo Bowl for admitting to taking money from a booster. He also will sit out the season opener against Miami University.

The last time he played in Ohio Stadium, though, he was unfettered against Michigan, racking up 386 yards (145 rushing, 241 passing) in a 37-21 win. "He can move. He can shake and bake. He can make all the right cuts," Gray center Nick Mangold said. "And I think in a game like this where it is a little more open, him being able to run around is going to give us a distinct advantage."
 
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BuckeyePride85 - let's try to keep rumors off this board, especially unconfirmed rumors at that. Zwick never even intimated that he was considering transferring. Yes, there were rumors, but he never personally gave any indication that he was going to transfer. Pick your favorite however you like, but at least make it an informed decision.
 
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FKAGobucks877 said:
BuckeyePride85 - let's try to keep rumors off this board, especially unconfirmed rumors at that. Zwick never even intimated that he was considering transferring. Yes, there were rumors, but he never personally gave any indication that he was going to transfer. Pick your favorite however you like, but at least make it an informed decision.
I didn't remember Zwick ever say publicly that he was considering transferring. I remember the media TRYING to make it sound as though Smith wanted to transfer, before the Iowa game, but all the quotes from him (that I heard/read) made it sound like it was just the media trying to create a story.
 
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