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YOUR 2016 Cleveland Indians Thread (American League CHAMPS!)

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Huge strategic error by Tito, starting Kluber on short rest against Toronto's ace. Predictable results - Kluber not sharp and only goes five innings, the bottom of the bullpen implodes, the bats remain ice cold (2 hits and 2 walks), and it's a 5-1 loss. Now the Indians have to pitch a rookie in Game 5, ???? in Game 6, and Kluber on short rest in Game 7. Not a good scenario.

The Tribe hasn't lost four in a row all season. It would be so Cleveland for it to happen now.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
Huge strategic error by Tito, starting Kluber on short rest against Toronto's ace. Predictable results - Kluber not sharp and only goes five innings, the bottom of the bullpen implodes, the bats remain ice cold (2 hits and 2 walks), and it's a 5-1 loss. Now the Indians have to pitch a rookie in Game 5, ???? in Game 6, and Kluber on short rest in Game 7. Not a good scenario.

The Tribe hasn't lost four in a row all season. It would be so Cleveland for it to happen now.
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Who knows whats going to happen tomorrow with Merritt and Tomlin twice in the same series just seens like an implosion waiting to happen. Might be banking on Kluber on short rest again in game 7 which is not so comfortable after today.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
Huge strategic error by Tito, starting Kluber on short rest against Toronto's ace. Predictable results - Kluber not sharp and only goes five innings, the bottom of the bullpen implodes, the bats remain ice cold (2 hits and 2 walks), and it's a 5-1 loss. Now the Indians have to pitch a rookie in Game 5, ???? in Game 6, and Kluber on short rest in Game 7. Not a good scenario.

The Tribe hasn't lost four in a row all season. It would be so Cleveland for it to happen now.
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This should have been a throwaway game all the way.
 
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5 beers, shot of crown and now a handed a four loko from a friend of mine. Have to drown out that performance tonight. Was hoping for the sweep, then the Dodgers and Cubbies would beat up on one another.

Need to get our arms as much as rest as possible.
 
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OHSportsFan said:
And the at bats are freaking awful right now. Living on the long-ball and every guy is up there swinging for the fences.

Feels like everyone is a 3-outcome hitter right now. Just get some freaking contact.
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They should just throw us low out of the zone-in the dirt breaking pitches every pitch since im pretty sure theyve swung for the fences on those about 90% of the time this series.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
Huge strategic error by Tito, starting Kluber on short rest against Toronto's ace. Predictable results - Kluber not sharp and only goes five innings, the bottom of the bullpen implodes, the bats remain ice cold (2 hits and 2 walks), and it's a 5-1 loss. Now the Indians have to pitch a rookie in Game 5, ???? in Game 6, and Kluber on short rest in Game 7. Not a good scenario.

The Tribe hasn't lost four in a row all season. It would be so Cleveland for it to happen now.
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Umm, Josh Tomlin is going to start one of the next two games.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
Umm, okay. What's your point? Get the champagne on ice because Tomlin is on the mound?
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Yea, I'm down with that. Over the past 6-7 weeks he's been about as good as we could have hoped for, which has been DAMN GOOD!

As crappy as today was, and it happens alot in baseball, tomorrow is a new, fresh start. It's the beauty of the game itself, of all the major sports it's the one where the absolute worst team in the league beats the absolute best team in the league multiple times a year. I respect that Tito went for the jugular today with Kluber. Problem was, they faced a stud on a roll in Sanchez and in reality they probably wouldn't have won today with Feller on the mound. Anybody who thinks this team can't win one out of the next three games is either a TBS analyst or a lifelong tribe fan. By that, I mean a guy that loves the Indians, as do I, and has become accustomed to seeing them come up short. Please trust me, they won't blow this series. DO NOT sell young Mr. Merritt short tomorrow. There is no "book" on him and that can be a problem for opposing hitters. PLUS, he has the luxury of knowing that he only has to go 4 strong innings, granted, against a great hitting team. The Tribe is in a great place right now, and for what it's worth, I'll just go on record and say this series ends tomorrow. And after his multiple home run game, Chisenhall is barely edged out by Miller as series MVP.

Would love to say "bank" but I can't. So I'll just say:

Peace
 
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tsteele316 said:
Umm, he's been pitching as well as anyone right now. Does someone need to take away your belt and shoe laces for your own safety?
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Ummm, you do realize that Tomlin will be facing J.A. Happ (20-4 record, 3.18 ERA), who, ummmm, has pitched as well as anyone in the American League all season long. So, ummm, I wouldn't put that game in the win column just yet.

Ummm, you do also realize that the Indians' bats have been, ummm, pretty cold lately, ummm, like .164 team batting average in the series, and ummm 2.25 runs per game. So, ummm, we've got that going for us.

Your act is really getting tired. It's hardly being unreasonable to suggest that the Indians' depleted pitching staff (3 starters out, Kluber overworked) is finally catching up to them. Combine that with ice cold bats and it's not unreasonable to suggest that the series is still in jeopardy despite the 3-1 lead.

As far as Tomlin goes, he did have a six-game streak in August where he pitched 26.2 innings and gave up 34 earned runs and 10 home runs surrendered. I'll do the math for you - that's an 11.48 ERA. That Tomlin could easily show up in Game 6, especially against a team that specializes in the long ball.

Yeah, it's baseball. Ryan Merritt (11 innings pitched for his major league career) could come out today and pitch a shutout. The Indians' bats could all get hot at once and the team could score eight runs against Marco Estrada. Something similar could happen in Game 6. But right now, it's looking like the Tribe's best option to clinch the series is Kluber on short rest in Game 7.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
Ummm, you do realize that Tomlin will be facing J.A. Happ (20-4 record, 3.18 ERA), who, ummmm, has pitched as well as anyone in the American League all season long. So, ummm, I wouldn't put that game in the win column just yet.

Ummm, you do also realize that the Indians' bats have been, ummm, pretty cold lately, ummm, like .164 team batting average in the series, and ummm 2.25 runs per game. So, ummm, we've got that going for us.

Your act is really getting tired. It's hardly being unreasonable to suggest that the Indians' depleted pitching staff (3 starters out, Kluber overworked) is finally catching up to them. Combine that with ice cold bats and it's not unreasonable to suggest that the series is still in jeopardy despite the 3-1 lead.

As far as Tomlin goes, he did have a six-game streak in August where he pitched 26.2 innings and gave up 34 earned runs and 10 home runs surrendered. I'll do the math for you - that's an 11.48 ERA. That Tomlin could easily show up in Game 6, especially against a team that specializes in the long ball.

Yeah, it's baseball. Ryan Merritt (11 innings pitched for his major league career) could come out today and pitch a shutout. The Indians' bats could all get hot at once and the team could score eight runs against Marco Estrada. Something similar could happen in Game 6. But right now, it's looking like the Tribe's best option to clinch the series is Kluber on short rest in Game 7.
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The Indians set a franchise record for consecutive postseason victories and have a 3-1 lead. Just because people aren't lining up next to you on the 480 bridge doesn't mean you have to start throwing a tantrum.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
The Indians' bats could all get hot at once and the team could score eight runs against Marco Estrada. Something similar could happen in Game 6. But right now, it's looking like the Tribe's best option to clinch the series is Kluber on short rest in Game 7.
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Specifics aside...

And I agree with game 4 should have been the throwaway (but on the other hand is 2 shots with Kluber tired, including one at home better than one shot fully rested at Toronto) I dunno, I was leaning toward full rest... but on the other hand I sorta felt like the offense needed a game where they felt like they had to be aggressive...

But.... the cold reality is, the offense needs to win them one game. Cold? That was 2 goddamn hits.

The fact remains that Kluber gave up 2 runs in 5 innings... and we were losing the game. You have a lead in the 7th and the complexion is completely different.

This is the second highest scoring offense in the AL. 5 or 6 runs isn't an off the wall ask.
 
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