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NCBuckeye86
The boss
As a whole, I think improvements were made. McCord looked more settled in. However I would expect that against an FCS team. Interested to see how the D holds up next week against a pass happy team. Still bullish on the o line and our inability to get a first down on 3rd and short. Hopeful we see continued growth week over week. ND will be an interesting match up.
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penguinpower
Sophmore
Here are my concerns (remember I am a fan of both YSU and Ohio State).
YSU's strategy was to chew up clock for 2 reasons:
#1. Keep the offense off the field as much as possible.
#2. Shorten the number of snaps to keep the YSU athletes as fresh as possible having 22 scholarship disadvantage.
Most FCS teams run out of depth between the 2nd and 3rd quarters.
While Ohio State's receiving core is the absolute best in the country, it's the defense that is concerning. I stated earlier that YSU is big on the OL 6'6 and 305 across the OL. I expected some success for them there......But this is what's concerning:
YSU in Q3 and bleeding into Q4 had the following drives:
1. 11 plays 40 yards 7:36 interception
2. 3 plays 7 yards 2:21 Punt
3. 6 plays 28 yards 4:08 Punt
And Q4 was relatively even:
In Q4 Ohio State took the ball on a 13 play 81 yard drive and YSU forced a turnover on downs.
YSU responded with a 10 play 89 yard drive that also ended in downs.
That's playing relatively even, late in the game. I wasn't expecting that, and it has me concerned.
While I believe that YSU in underrated at the FCS level, they were running the ball off tackle and converting 3rd and medium and 3rd and short late in the game.
That shouldn't happen late in games against an FCS team with a scholarship disadvantage.
Ohio State would have covered the spread easily if they could have gotten more stops in the second half. Only scoring 7 in the second half is also an issue. But was it the inconsistent offense or the defense that wasn't getting off the field?
The final score isn't indicative of the trouble YSU gave Ohio State. I want to see Ohio State and YSU in their respective playoff systems. But this is concerning at a minimum.
That's my take after watching the game for a second time.
YSU's strategy was to chew up clock for 2 reasons:
#1. Keep the offense off the field as much as possible.
#2. Shorten the number of snaps to keep the YSU athletes as fresh as possible having 22 scholarship disadvantage.
Most FCS teams run out of depth between the 2nd and 3rd quarters.
While Ohio State's receiving core is the absolute best in the country, it's the defense that is concerning. I stated earlier that YSU is big on the OL 6'6 and 305 across the OL. I expected some success for them there......But this is what's concerning:
YSU in Q3 and bleeding into Q4 had the following drives:
1. 11 plays 40 yards 7:36 interception
2. 3 plays 7 yards 2:21 Punt
3. 6 plays 28 yards 4:08 Punt
And Q4 was relatively even:
In Q4 Ohio State took the ball on a 13 play 81 yard drive and YSU forced a turnover on downs.
YSU responded with a 10 play 89 yard drive that also ended in downs.
That's playing relatively even, late in the game. I wasn't expecting that, and it has me concerned.
While I believe that YSU in underrated at the FCS level, they were running the ball off tackle and converting 3rd and medium and 3rd and short late in the game.
That shouldn't happen late in games against an FCS team with a scholarship disadvantage.
Ohio State would have covered the spread easily if they could have gotten more stops in the second half. Only scoring 7 in the second half is also an issue. But was it the inconsistent offense or the defense that wasn't getting off the field?
The final score isn't indicative of the trouble YSU gave Ohio State. I want to see Ohio State and YSU in their respective playoff systems. But this is concerning at a minimum.
That's my take after watching the game for a second time.
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Captain Buckeye
Legend
Totally agreed and great analysis.
OSUs inability to get off the field right now is killing the teams ability to improve on offense. Couple that with rotating QBs and a Devin led offense being not as explosive and it’s a big problem.
Teams are going to continue doing this until we improve. That specific improvement has got to be the DL who’s massively underperforming.
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penguinpower
Sophmore
@ CaptainBuckeye-I feel like the Pundit's watched a different game than I did. Reading the headlines & content is mismatched to the stat lines.
Here's another issue, Ohio State kept most of the starters in the entire game. YSU was substituting freely late in the game and there wasn't much drop off. That shouldn't happen.
What's going on with Larry Johnson's DL?
I need some time to process the headline issues with the stat lines. The score isn't indicative of the struggle. How could they be so dishonest?
Here's another issue, Ohio State kept most of the starters in the entire game. YSU was substituting freely late in the game and there wasn't much drop off. That shouldn't happen.
What's going on with Larry Johnson's DL?
I need some time to process the headline issues with the stat lines. The score isn't indicative of the struggle. How could they be so dishonest?
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MGMT
Legend
Interior defensive line looked fine to me for the most part. I need a film breakdown of DL assignments before I assume the pass rush is utter trash so I am reserving - but on tv it wasn’t good.
McCord pulling the trigger promptly when seeing Marv and Emeka open was really encouraging; indifferent to the competition dynamic I just wanted to see that trait there - can he fire when he has a shot? Looks like yes he can. For that reason alone I don’t need to camp on the ledge.
Martinez just doesn’t look like he can play safety at a necessarily high level. Good kid, but at this point Davison looks like a bit of a dog at corner while Ransom and Styles play back deep. The secondary looks like it knows what it’s doing.
Simmons looks to have taken a step back. Maybe home opener jitters if you’re an optimist but this isn’t his first season as a starter by any stretch and history will tell you this is nothing new. If not by now with an off-season in the program then when? A
I’d like to see Monty get some early snaps to see where he is. At this point I hate the idea of him manning the left side on the road against ND - hate it. Forgive me for thinking a career of mishaps and fuck ups are just going to go away in a couple weeks before the biggest OOC game of the year.
Was good to see Trey zipping and zapping. Healthy Trey behind last year’s OL is one of the ultimate “what could have been” for me.
McCord pulling the trigger promptly when seeing Marv and Emeka open was really encouraging; indifferent to the competition dynamic I just wanted to see that trait there - can he fire when he has a shot? Looks like yes he can. For that reason alone I don’t need to camp on the ledge.
Martinez just doesn’t look like he can play safety at a necessarily high level. Good kid, but at this point Davison looks like a bit of a dog at corner while Ransom and Styles play back deep. The secondary looks like it knows what it’s doing.
Simmons looks to have taken a step back. Maybe home opener jitters if you’re an optimist but this isn’t his first season as a starter by any stretch and history will tell you this is nothing new. If not by now with an off-season in the program then when? A
I’d like to see Monty get some early snaps to see where he is. At this point I hate the idea of him manning the left side on the road against ND - hate it. Forgive me for thinking a career of mishaps and fuck ups are just going to go away in a couple weeks before the biggest OOC game of the year.
Was good to see Trey zipping and zapping. Healthy Trey behind last year’s OL is one of the ultimate “what could have been” for me.
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• The segment of the fan base that wasn't satisfied with a 20-point win over a Big Ten team on the road certainly won't be impressed with a 35-7 win over FCS Youngstown State at home. The problem is, there's no such thing as an impressive win over Youngstown State. If we beat them 77-0, then the naysayers say: "Big deal. You did what you were supposed to do. Now show me against Notre Dame in two weeks." It's a no-win situation. If you like making the noise, then enjoy your platform. If you hate hearing the noise, then tune it out. Either way, the real season starts on September 23rd. I'll reserve judgment until then.
• The 2002 Buckeyes needed minor miracles to earn single-score wins over Cincinnati (7-7 final record), Wisconsin (8-6 overall, 2-6 in Big Ten), Purdue (7-6), and Illinois (5-7); the last two unimpressive victories came in Games 11 and 12 of the season, which had the majority of Buckeye Nation predicting an epic Cooperesque meltdown against Michigan in Game 13. On the other hand, the 2018 Buckeyes looked unstoppable in Game 2 against a hapless Rutgers team ... and then got blown out in Game 8 by a mediocre Purdue squad ... and then rolled #4 Michigan in Game 12. Even great college football teams have off weeks and bad games. It's really too early to predict how this team will fare against the tougher opponents on their schedule.
• The Buckeye defense hasn't held opponents to single digits in consecutive games since the 2019 season, when they shutdown Northwestern (3 points) and Wisconsin (7 points) in Games 7 and 8; that team also accomplished the same feat in Games 4 and 5, holding Miami of Ohio to 5 points and Nebraska to 7 points. Yes, Indiana and YSU are bad. Yes, the revised clock rules keep scoring down. But maybe, just maybe, this defense is sort of for real.
• Ohio State doesn't rebuild, it reloads. But remember, this team could be reloading with Quinn Ewers and not Kyle McCord.
• The 2002 Buckeyes needed minor miracles to earn single-score wins over Cincinnati (7-7 final record), Wisconsin (8-6 overall, 2-6 in Big Ten), Purdue (7-6), and Illinois (5-7); the last two unimpressive victories came in Games 11 and 12 of the season, which had the majority of Buckeye Nation predicting an epic Cooperesque meltdown against Michigan in Game 13. On the other hand, the 2018 Buckeyes looked unstoppable in Game 2 against a hapless Rutgers team ... and then got blown out in Game 8 by a mediocre Purdue squad ... and then rolled #4 Michigan in Game 12. Even great college football teams have off weeks and bad games. It's really too early to predict how this team will fare against the tougher opponents on their schedule.
• The Buckeye defense hasn't held opponents to single digits in consecutive games since the 2019 season, when they shutdown Northwestern (3 points) and Wisconsin (7 points) in Games 7 and 8; that team also accomplished the same feat in Games 4 and 5, holding Miami of Ohio to 5 points and Nebraska to 7 points. Yes, Indiana and YSU are bad. Yes, the revised clock rules keep scoring down. But maybe, just maybe, this defense is sort of for real.
• Ohio State doesn't rebuild, it reloads. But remember, this team could be reloading with Quinn Ewers and not Kyle McCord.
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calibuck
Too soon old, too late smart
As mentioned all over the place, McCord grew up against Indy. Yesterday, instead of looking at the 'underneath' receivers (Fleming and Stover), he was looking downfield first! That indicates that he's working his progressions better (again, more confidence), and voila. MJH and EE had great days. Never a doubt that they'd get open, only 'if' was if McCord could get them the ball. And he did, with only one (?) TE catch (Scott), and couple to Fleming. YSU had some bigga boys on OL, and stifled our vaunted DL. Their DL looked to be undersized by about 20-30 lbs per position, and our OL kept the pocket pretty much intact. Hence some long completions. Seems like every position group gets its turn 'in the bucket', with the talking heads lamenting our DE's and DT's, saying can't deliver. Yeah, didn't see a great push, and 44 & 33 haven't had an appreciable impact on the games (yet). 44 had some almosts, but Sawyer seemed to make contact and stop. Didn't see Abor much, but did see Kenyata, but once again, didn't hear announcer say ' tackle by xxxx'. Kinda like a golf swing, all the moving parts have to interact at same time. Net net, we've got some great football to look forward to. Would like to see a mini-peak against ND, another against PSU, and then put it all together against TTUN. Go Bucks!
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I will have to go back and watch Simmons, every time I noticed him it was not in a good way and I was trying to keep an eye on him (easier said than done during a live game).
I don't think LJ Sr's recruiting has been bad whatsoever with the guys that are currently on the field. JT and Sawyer were 5 stars that everyone wanted, JT was the top player in the nation overall on some sites. Hall was top 100 overall and Tyleik was top 150 overall I think? Jackson was top 50 overall and I believe Abor was as well, Curry was top 150 (maybe top 100?). Kanu was top 100. And the perceived Plan B guys like McKenzie, Hamilton, etc. have been making some plays when brought in. Also brought in Malone and he hasn't played much, but he was a former top 100 guy. So I will disagree that there is some talent deficit due to recruiting.
I am fine with the rotation thus far. Curry may be better than Sawyer honestly and needs a ton of PT, that goes for stopping the run and pass rush. Jackson needs some snaps, but not if it means taking JT off the field more than a play or two for a breather...JT needs more consistency but he is getting a lot of QB rushes and tackles behind or near the line. But in terms of other rotational guys, it seems like McKenzie, Hamilton and Kanu have almost looked better overall than Tyleik and Hall. We will see what happens against better competition, but I would argue those three have made a case for more PT than less imo.
You are right that the DL is not producing to the level they need to though, if you bring in that type of talent we should have pure dominance. I don't know if it is Knowles or LJ Sr, or a combination of both, but the front 4 needs to be more consistent and the coaches need to make it a point of emphasis. LB play is great and the DB play has mostly been great. The DL is underwhelming and again, I don't think it is talent...they are just in the wrong place often and missing their reads. So to me, we have a coaching deficit and the coaches on that side of the ball need to get their collective shit together to fix it. If we can't get YSU off the field defensively, there is a problem because they will never have near the talent as OSU.
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Captain Buckeye
Legend
I think it’s pretty spot on here.
I assume most are objecting to the offensive line but I thought they played well minus the penalties
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