Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[buckeyeintn]

We could leave this thread for Gator,Wolverine Mike, and et.al. to vent about sanctions Urban etc. Make it a Buckeye fan free zone.

I think Gator is a (closet) Buckeye fan.

 

[akronbuck]

I wondered if the thread would make it to 600 pages?

sounds like a NCAA Violation

 

[buckeyesin07]

Let's hope he's never been quoted, linked, or reposted on 11W then. Cause if he has, you're conclusion is pretty empty.

UH, actually it's not, considering mgoblog is a cartoon character compared to what it was a few years ago. Next time, become a little informed regarding what you're talking about before you chime in.

BTW-- at your incorrect use of "you're."

 

[bassbuckeye07]

quit bumping this......fuck

 

[Gatorubet]

UH, actually it's not, considering mgoblog is a cartoon character compared to what it was a few years ago. Next time, become a little informed regarding what you're talking about before you chime in.

Oh sure. If you force Woof to become a little more informed, then everyone will have to start doing it.

I refuse....and I know Best Buckeye and Scooter do.

 

[Gatorubet]

I think Gator is a (closet) Buckeye fan.

I approve of one of the ways that you could mean that.

 

[BB73]

CBS

OSU banned from postseason but still gets bowl money

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio State won't be putting any money into the Big Ten's bowl bank account in 2012, but it will be withdrawing around $400,000.

Despite being banned from playing in a bowl game due to NCAA violations, there is nothing which prevents Ohio State from collecting the same amount that Michigan, Wisconsin and other Big Ten schools receive, conference officials said.

"I can't speak on behalf of our members, but it'd be the same as if Ohio State or any of our schools finished 5-7 this year and were not eligible to play in a bowl game because of their competitive record," Big Ten deputy commissioner Brad Traviola said Friday.
He added that the division of funds from the conference's bowl pool "are not dependent on who all is playing."

Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith declined comment.

Conference schools put all money over and above their bowl travel costs and expenses into a pool, with each of the Big Ten's longtime members receiving an equal share.
The Big Ten office receives 5 percent of the net proceeds, and Nebraska, the 12th and newest member of the conference, does not receive a full share yet until it has met an integration contract it signed in order to join the Big Ten in 2011.

There is no conference rule which prevents teams on NCAA probation or banned from bowl games from receiving their share of the bowl money.

"The Big Ten currently has no policy or precedent set in regards to financial penalties on conference bowl revenue," Big Ten spokesman Scott Chipman said in an email to the Associated Press. "So at this time, all bowl revenues will be distributed equally, as in the past."

Traviola estimated that each Big Ten school will receive about the same for the 2011 bowls as they did before -- just under $400,000.
...
On Dec. 20, 2011, the NCAA issued its final sanctions against Ohio State. In addition to the bowl ban, forfeiting its share of bowl money and probation, the Buckeyes were handed a reduction in nine football scholarships over three years, the 2010 season (with a 12-1 record and Sugar Bowl victory) was vacated, the school banned the booster from contact with athletes and Tressel was given a five-year show-cause order which effectively prevents him from coaching at any NCAA institution.

Ohio State had played in a bowl game every year since 1988, bringing money into the coffers of other schools even when they had a losing record and did not play in bowl games.

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[BB73]

For some reason there's a story about this on CBS's college football front page.

Putting it in here for tracking purposes, but leaving the thread closed.

CBS

Did NCAA overstep its bounds with Ohio State? Depends who you ask

...
To say the bowl ban was unexpected at Ohio State would be an understatement. Ohio State didn't plan for it in 2012 or consider taking it proactively in 2011 during a season of upheaval when Luke Fickell was interim coach. When the ban was announced as part of the overall penalties on Dec. 20, Smith says now, it set precedent.
Smith told CBSSports.com recently that the NCAA infractions "rationalized" the bowl ban and that his program was the first example of a new get-tough policy by the NCAA in major infractions cases.
"I think so," Smith said last week from his office on the 10th floor of the Fawcett Center, which overlooks some of the athletic facilities related to the nation's second-largest athletic budget. "I think the [infractions] committee deliberated and said, 'You know what, we've got to do something more ... heavy?' They felt they could justify that. I could be totally wrong."
He doesn't think so, especially after Ohio State research obtained by CBSSports.com. Smith now points to numbers compiled by the school and its "defense" team in the case -- The Compliance Group out of Lenexa, Kan. The company, headed by former NCAA enforcement staffer Chuck Smrt, guides schools through NCAA investigations.



Their research shows that there have been 61 major infraction cases since 2007. Thirty-one of those cases schools have been slapped with the "failure to monitor" a program designation. Ohio State was hit with both that designation as well a being named a repeat violator because of previous major violations in 2006 in basketball, within the allowed five-year window.



Failure to monitor is considered a serious violation. In the NCAA eyes it is perhaps second only to the dreaded "lack of institutional control" designation. NCAA bylaws state penalties for major violations can include "prohibition against ... postseason competition."
Twelve of those 31 cases were in football. Three of the 12 BCS conference schools were slapped with failure to monitor and repeat violator status, same as Ohio State. They were Colorado and Oklahoma in 2007 and West Virginia in 2011. None of the three got a postseason ban.


Oklahoma's case involved former quarterback Rhett Bomar and other players being paid by a local car dealer for work they didn't do. West Virginia was penalized for non-coaching personnel conducting duties allowed only by countable coaches. Colorado was tagged for training table violations.
"When I heard [about the bowl ban] I was like, 'How did they get there? ...' Smith said. "I go back and reflect on it. They rationalized their way into that. If not, there is no precedent and that's OK."
...

When the penalties were announced, infractions committee member Greg Sankey said: "I would not suggest, necessarily, this is a new day but these penalties are significant ..."
A few days later, NCAA president Mark Emmert expressed a desire to clean up college athletics in light of a depressing 2011. That was at his state of the association address last month in Indianapolis.
CBSSports.com's Bryan Fischer broke news last month obtaining a proposed new penalty matrix. It showed that under a possible new penalty structure USC would have been penalized more harshly in the Bush case. The NCAA Enforcement Working Group continues to work on a tiered violation structure as part of the association's reform movement.
"Is that where we're headed? I think so, I do ..." Smith said. "Obviously moving into the violations penalty structure, it's going to be stiffer."


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[BB73]

A disciplinary board has recommended that Chris Cicero be suspended for 6 months for passing on information to Jim Tressel in the infamous emails of April, 2010 after Cicero had a meeting with tattoo parlor owner Eddie Rife.

SI.com

 

[BB73]

Ohio's Supreme Court has ruled in the ESPN lawsuit.

ABC13

Court backs Ohio State in open records lawsuit

By ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS
AP Legal Affairs Writer

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - The Ohio Supreme Court has sided with Ohio State University in a lawsuit brought by ESPN over records it sought in connection to the university's football scandal and NCAA investigation.

ESPN had asked the Supreme Court to order the release of records related to the forced resignation of football coach Jim Tressel and star quarterback Terrelle Pryor.

The court on Tuesday unanimously ruled that for the most part Ohio State properly shielded records as either protected by federal privacy laws or attorney-client privilege.

The court said in a few cases Ohio State must remove certain names from documents which it then must provide ESPN.

The court also denied ESPN's request for attorney fees.


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[BB73]

Here's the 14-page document released by the Ohio Supreme Court:

Ruling.PDF

Here's a summary contained within the document.

Because, for the most part, Ohio State established that FERPA and
the attorney-client privilege prohibited the disclosure of the requested records, we
deny the writ to that extent. For those limited records that should have been
disclosed—at Respondent’s Evidence, Vol. III, Part 2, pages 668, 829-835, 859-
863, 999-1001, and 1009-1012, following the redaction of personally identifiable
information, that is, the names of the student-athlete, his parents, his parents’
addresses, and the person associated with the student-athlete mentioned therein—
and were thus not exempt from disclosure based on FERPA, however, we grant
the writ. We also deny ESPN’s request for attorney fees.

 

[lvbuckeye]

Oh yeah, the same player who was key in getting our head coach canned and our program on fucking probation because he wanted cheap tats? You're going by what HE says?

ummmm, Tressel was fired because he covered it up and then lied about it. TWICE. if he had suspended the tat 5 rather than the snow job, he'd still be employed.

1/10

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

ummmm, Tressel was fired because he covered it up and then lied about it. TWICE. if he had suspended the tat 5 rather than the snow job, he'd still be employed.

1/10

He didn't cover shit up. He did lie to the NCAA. The main blame still ies with the players doing shit they knew was wrong and still did it anyway...several of them did it again after being suspended once.

 

[Tanner]

He didn't cover [Mark May] up. He did lie to the NCAA. The main blame still ies with the players doing [Mark May] they knew was wrong and still did it anyway...several of them did it again after being suspended once.

You don't consider having knowledge of wrongdoing and not reporting that wrongdoing "covering something up"?

The players and Tressel were both to blame. Tressel more so imo b/c he had a bigger responsibility.

 

[Coqui]

You don't consider having knowledge of wrongdoing and not reporting that wrongdoing "covering something up"?

The players and Tressel were both to blame. Tressel more so imo b/c he had a bigger responsibility.

Covering up means intent to hide. Not reporting but signing something is lying. He didn't attempt to delete emails, he didn't remove the tattoos fromt he players.

I can see what you mean, but I think in this case, the line isn't as fine as you're making it out to be.