Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[BuckeyeNation27]

Played their way into the Sugar Bowl by knowingly using 5 (or more) ineligible players.

Without Pryor, Boom and the rest, do you think tOSU would have gone 11-1?

probably. the big ten sucks.....remember?

 

[jwinslow]

that's one way of looking at it.

particularly given the repeat leaks from the NCAA to the media, namely yahoo.

 

[Onebuckfan]

I am in the GS must go camp ..but if this works and the NCAA buys this ..GS is the bomb..however I think this looks more like the two Pressers than a Genius at work..oh well..some day this to shall pass

 

[IronBuckI]

Played their way into the Sugar Bowl by knowingly using 5 (or more) ineligible players.

Without Pryor, Boom and the rest, do you think tOSU would have gone 11-1?

That argument was finished the moment that the NCAA allowed those players to participate.

And, yes, I think we still would have won our first five games without those guys.

 

[Telekinesis]

Played their way into the Sugar Bowl by knowingly using 5 (or more) ineligible players.

Without Pryor, Boom and the rest, do you think tOSU would have gone 11-1?

Yes. I think we could have gone undefeated without them. Anyone thinking those players are the beginning or end of Ohio State football doesn't know anything about our program.

That's an honest answer. I'd say more, but I don't want it to appear as though I'm bashing certain players.

 

[Gatorubet]

and what cheating did OSU do wrt the sugar bowl?

The part where if you had not knowingly played the ineligible players, you most likely would not have the win-loss record to be in it?

The NCAA knew and ruled them eligible until the following season. What jeopardized their eligibility since then?

I dunno...the fact the the information you gave the NCAA about what had happened - which was used by them in making that eligibility decision - were freaking lies?

auburn fans claim a lot of stupid stuff, see their previous parade.

You said Auburn. That automatically infers "a lot of stupid stuff".

Am I going to flaunt a game that was vacated? No.

Boasting about something is different than not agreeing that it never happened, particularly on your own message board the day the eraser shows up.

You just changed the subject from my light hearted jab at some folks acting all SEC-ish by ignoring vacation of wins resulting from NCAA infractions to some claim of "flaunting" and "boasting" and "not agreeing" distinctions.

Josh, all I see is that your fans are crazed avid football fans - just like all of the other major programs - and no better or worse in many ways than the ones in other parts of the country, including my own. If you guys were not passionate about football I would not give a [Mark May] about your program. That passion is what is so familiar to my SEC fan soul and one of the reasons I like the Buckeyes so much. Y'all's program reminds me of Florida's a whole lot. NOW you can be offended.

 

[jwinslow]

That argument was finished the moment that the NCAA allowed those players to participate.

And, yes, I think we still would have won our first five games without those guys.

Exactly. The argument isn't that they should have been eligible, but rather that the NCAA clearly didn't care about compliance as much as the bowl matchup. Being outraged now is comical.

As for the five, Thomas was a backup DE. He wasn't the reason Jacory kept his rich turnover tradition alive.

If they play that game again, history suggests he would not buck that turnover trend, while two TD returns are much less likely.

 

[Gatorubet]

That argument was finished the moment that the NCAA allowed those players to participate.

Not so much. But opinions do vary. Had you been truthful to the NCAA and they still allowed your guys to play, I would wholeheartedly agree with your statement, FWIW.

 

[CHU]

If anyone knows, which media members who attack Ohio State on a regular basis actually set foot in Columbus for various athletic events (football/men's basketball)?

I know Pat Forde and Gregg Doyel show up to OSU football games (some basketball) and Stewart Mandel covers OSU events too.

Just wondering?

Asking this because I have ZERO respect for media who attack Ohio State and never show their face in Columbus for any reason to face anyone (i.e. a Telephone Toughguy). This would include the Mark May, Ivan Maisel, Mark Schlabach, and Dennis Dodd types (who all never show up in Columbus).

 

[SloopyHangOn]

Josh, all I see is that your fans are crazed avid football fans - just like all of the other major programs - and no better or worse in many ways than the ones in other parts of the country, including my own. If you guys were not passionate about football I would not give a [Mark May] about your program. That passion is what is so familiar to my SEC fan soul and one of the reasons I like the Buckeyes so much. Y'all's program reminds me of Florida's a whole lot. NOW you can be offended.

Translation:

Be okay with me calling you all ignorant homers, because as we all know, everyone has the tendency to be an ignorant homer (including myself, when it doesn't conflict with a point I'm trying to make). Understand that I'm not going to take what you're saying seriously because I know I'm right, even though it's not my goal to be right, but to simply propagate harmony and understanding. Please don't ACTUALLY respond to my assholery and instead accept my white flag of poor jokes and inane emoticons.

 

[Telekinesis]

If anyone knows, which media members who attack Ohio State on a regular basis actually set foot in Columbus for various athletic events (football/men's basketball)?

I know Pat Forde and Gregg Doyel show up to OSU football games (some basketball) and Stewart Mandel covers OSU events too.

Just wondering?

Asking this because I have ZERO respect for media who attack Ohio State and never show their face in Columbus for any reason to face anyone (i.e. a Telephone Toughguy). This would include the Mark May, Ivan Maisel, Mark Schlabach, and Dennis Dodd types (who all never show up in Columbus).

Does College Gameday count? :tongue2:

 

[IronBuckI]

Not so much. But opinions do vary. Had you been truthful to the NCAA and they still allowed your guys to play, I would wholeheartedly agree with your statement, FWIW.

Interesting. Because, the players did lie to the NCAA, got caught, and were still allowed to play. The NCAA was going to let Ohio State play at full strength regardless of what was known at the time. If they were playing in the Alamo Bowl, then they wouldn't have.

 

[SloopyHangOn]

Flame the fans. Fan the flames.

 

[Sportsbuck28]

Ramzy from Bucknuts has been on point with his tweets today...

"Ohio State also docked itself some scholarships that Jim Bollman wouldn't have used to offer OLs with anyway." #NCAAgaze2K11

ramzyn Ramzy Nasrallah
Granted, Michigan gave itself a two-year bowl ban so perhaps that was deemed "punishment already served."
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ramzyn Ramzy Nasrallah
PSA to those with maize & blue panties in a twist over OSU's response: NCAA's NOA to UM was more harsh than Ohio State's http://es.pn/cD3ca8

ramzyn Ramzy Nasrallah
RT @bubbaprog The streak of Ohio State wins over Ohio is over!
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ramzyn Ramzy Nasrallah
I am personally aghast that Ohio State reponded to the NCAA instead of George Dohrmann or Antonio Henton's crackhead brother. #helltopay
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RE: Arkansas receivers

ramzyn Ramzy Nasrallah
@InTheBleachers @GAlexander21 CLARIFICATION: Those weren't "dropped passes." They were "vacated receptions."

ramzyn Ramzy Nasrallah
Also, the team poster that hangs in every Cbus store will say PLEASE DO NOT GIVE FREE SHIT TO THESE GUYS on it. #notreally #butitshould
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ramzyn Ramzy Nasrallah
"Hola, undocumented Chiptole workers. No dan burritos libres de Braxton Miller por favor. Gracias!" #OSUcomplianceoutreach #wantthisjobsobad

ramzyn Ramzy Nasrallah
If OSU gets a bowl ban (it won't) then UNC gets the death penalty & Oregon literally gets the death penalty, by firing squad.

 

[Gatorubet]

Exactly. The argument isn't that they should have been eligible, but rather that the NCAA clearly didn't care about compliance as much as the bowl matchup. Being outraged now is comical.

I don't see anyone here "outraged" about anything. I'm certainly not. And I don't disagree at all that the NCAA wanted the game played. It just has [Mark May] to do with the fact of the game being vacated. I see the ignoring of the ruling by your institution - and the justifications for why y'all should ignore the game as vacated - as very much like everyone else.

No biggie.