WR Torrance Gibson (Green Bay Blizzard)

[RB07OSU]

Sort of like Braxton RB... Both would be suited to learn something other than QB because their speed and abilities need to be tapped into. It would be a waste if both Braxton and Torrance just ride the pine all year.

And to expand upon your point, they would have to embrace the move. For Braxton, it better be imminent imo. Torrance will be a progression if he does not start grasping the position quickly. Either way, he will be a star here.

 

[ShowMeBuck]

Sort of like Braxton RB... Both would be suited to learn something other than QB because their speed and abilities need to be tapped into. It would be a waste if both Braxton and Torrance just ride the pine all year.

It's pretty rare that a player with the natural athletic ability like Torrance will ride the pine but I guess with our stacked offensive talent it might make sense. I know TG has said he isn't opposed to a RS year so perhaps that's the route. I guess I was hoping we would see some wildcat from him next year. Which is interesting. What is best for tOSU team won't always be what is best for the player on a year by year basis. Take Brax. I can't think of a better use for the team next year than using him in wildcat but to give him the best shot in the NFL he should probably give it a shot as a slot WR. It's crazy all the options next year and I can't imagine a coach with a more challenging yet exciting struggle to balance the teams needs with the players personal desires (can't blame them for that) while trying to win another NC. What an interesting year ahead.

 

[Tanner]

I don't understand why so many people are so convinced Gibson won't play QB. Sure, he's raw as a passer but so are all high school dual threat QBs. You aren't going to have an 18 year old 5 star athlete who's also Peyton Manning as a passing prospect. Braxton was seriously raw as a freshman and he turned OK. And Urban's job isn't to turn him into an NFL QB (despite what he may have been telling him) it's to turn him into a guy who can win games at the college level. I don't see any reason Gibson can't do that with the physical tools he possesses.

 

[MD Buckeye]

I don't understand why so many people are so convinced Gibson won't play QB. Sure, he's raw as a passer but so are all high school dual threat QBs. You aren't going to have an 18 year old 5 star athlete who's also Peyton Manning as a passing prospect. Braxton was seriously raw as a freshman and he turned OK. And Urban's job isn't to turn him into an NFL QB (despite what he may have been telling him) it's to turn him into a guy who can win games at the college level. I don't see any reason Gibson can't do that with the physical tools he possesses.

Agree 100%

 

[mattynokes]

It's just a projection based on his mechanics and QB specific skills...has nothing to do with competition or actual results. A projection is not an ultimatum and if we don't project and discuss, not really sure what the point of a message board is. And I absolutely believe he will be given every chance to develop as a QB and I believe he can be a good one if he does. But I also believe his highest potential is at WR and that he would bring an element to the table that we will lack in the upcoming years.

This.

I see a lot of "just let the coaches figure it out" or "make sure you let the coaching staff know of your decision" posts. This place would be pretty boring if we can't talk about our opinions. We see a prospect during recruiting that we'd like to have in S&G, sometimes we're right, sometimes we're wrong. Same goes for position battles or which position a prospect will end up at.

 

[Onebuckfan]

This.

I see a lot of "just let the coaches figure it out" or "make sure you let the coaching staff know of your decision" posts. This place would be pretty boring if we can't talk about our opinions. We see a prospect during recruiting that we'd like to have in S&G, sometimes we're right, sometimes we're wrong. Same goes for position battles or which position a prospect will end up at.

I agree My opinion has no effect on any athlete or coach..if people think it hurts or helps the athlete or team they are overly impressed with the Internet. The corner bar has just moved online..Secondly, when Brian Williams exaggerates a story he is in a position that this cant happen in. When I exaggerate a story to make a specific point that is different. I am not a News anchor or reporter..I am a faceless poster on the internet. REALIZE THE DIFFERENCE.

 

[pnuts34]

I don't understand why so many people are so convinced Gibson won't play QB. Sure, he's raw as a passer but so are all high school dual threat QBs. You aren't going to have an 18 year old 5 star athlete who's also Peyton Manning as a passing prospect. Braxton was seriously raw as a freshman and he turned OK. And Urban's job isn't to turn him into an NFL QB (despite what he may have been telling him) it's to turn him into a guy who can win games at the college level. I don't see any reason Gibson can't do that with the physical tools he possesses.

Let's not forget how raw Pryor was as well throughout his time at OSU. His junior year he finally started to become a decent passer, and unfortunately we weren't able To enjoy a senior year from him. I'd be fine if Torrance progressed from an athlete to an athletic QB, but didn't stop using his legs as an asset.

 

[RB07OSU]

I don't understand why so many people are so convinced Gibson won't play QB. Sure, he's raw as a passer but so are all high school dual threat QBs. You aren't going to have an 18 year old 5 star athlete who's also Peyton Manning as a passing prospect. Braxton was seriously raw as a freshman and he turned OK. And Urban's job isn't to turn him into an NFL QB (despite what he may have been telling him) it's to turn him into a guy who can win games at the college level. I don't see any reason Gibson can't do that with the physical tools he possesses.

Idk if I have read a post where anyone is "convinced" he will not play QB...I think many feel it is more likely than not that he will not stay. And that may not necessarily be because he would not be a good college QB. It's just that with the talent coming in at QB (Burrow, likely Guarantano or Haskins, Clark), we may utilize him best at WR and spot-play at QB. While Braxton and Pryor were raw, they came in as necessities at the QB position...we literally had no other feasible option at QB. But then you compare their HS film to a JT Barrett and you see how much more ready JT was coming in with his mechanics and feel for the position. At the end of the day though, we have the luxury of not having to rush him in and he can develop those skills at the college level. However, I would love to see us utilize his elite athletic ability in the meantime.

 

[pnuts34]

Well to all those that believe Torrance should be and could be a better WR, I just say let it play out. Nothing can be answered until the kids hit the field. And thinking any of the future QBs can come in and be saviors, I say the same, let it play out. Lists are filled with top ranked players who were supposed to be saviors and never panned out(Mitch mustain, ryan perriloux, john Brantley, kyle wright, star Jackson, Xavier Lee, Russell Shepard, dayne crist, etc) while there are also lists of guys who people wrote off and became stars(johnny manziel, Marcus mariota, Colin Klein, dak Prescott, Greg McElroy, etc). As much fun as it is to project a highly athletic kid like Torrance, I don't think anything can be accuately said about him until he has some work in a college system with college coaches and gets reps against college competition. His true blessing is that he isn't thrust into the same predicament as Pryor and Miller and doesn't have to play and be the focal point of the offense. By the time Gibson has the opportunity to start I don't think he'll ever have to be the entire offense, but someone to distribute and use his legs when needed. Once(if) he gets that, he could be a very good(if not great) QB.

 

[TampaBuckeyes]

It's just a projection based on his mechanics and QB specific skills...has nothing to do with competition or actual results. A projection is not an ultimatum and if we don't project and discuss, not really sure what the point of a message board is. And I absolutely believe he will be given every chance to develop as a QB and I believe he can be a good one if he does. But I also believe his highest potential is at WR and that he would bring an element to the table that we will lack in the upcoming years.

Right now Gibson is a QB, and he'll likely stay a QB next year. Potentially time on ST, but he'll be a QB. He'll ride the pine for a year and probably the next year as well. Then he'll battle it out for 2 years. I'm sure the staff will have this conversation with him, letting him know where he stands in the QB discussion and how he transitions to the NFL as he progresses through his career and if he would be better suited as a pivot. As of right now he's a QB. The most important thing as far as playing position goes is getting as many of the kids to their dream of playing in the NFL. Right now he's got all of the intangibles to be a great QB, just because he can run as well as he can throw doesn't take away from his passing game. If he spends the time in the film room, learns how to sit in the pocket and throw, how to make quick reads and deliver the ball on time and accurately he'll be a great NFL QB and a great OSU QB. It just depends on how he progresses and he's got the next 4 years to do it.

 

[bukIpower]

I don't understand why so many people are so convinced Gibson won't play QB. Sure, he's raw as a passer but so are all high school dual threat QBs. You aren't going to have an 18 year old 5 star athlete who's also Peyton Manning as a passing prospect. Braxton was seriously raw as a freshman and he turned OK. And Urban's job isn't to turn him into an NFL QB (despite what he may have been telling him) it's to turn him into a guy who can win games at the college level. I don't see any reason Gibson can't do that with the physical tools he possesses.

62 TD's, 2 INT's.... That's all I need. You can play 2-5 WR's at a time you can only play 1 QB and he'd better know how to facilitate the football. What's the point of recruiting all of this speed and depth everywhere (seriously, it's full on ridiculous what we have at Skill) if we cant get the ball to those players. I get that Burrows played in a lesser league but IMO not even Gibson puts up those video game numbers if he plays at Athens. We don't need someone who is a running first QB anymore. What we need is someone to be timely with his runs, makes quick decisions, has great accuracy, and who puts the others around him in a position to succeed. Maybe that is Gibson but to me that looks more like Burrows' description.

Gibson will find the field either way and probably before Burrows but IMO it will be in some capacity to take advantage of his speed. Either way, Gibson will be a star and a huge part of this team (probably even as a true freshman) so where he plays really doesn't matter.

Also to RB- I feel it is Imminent that Braxton plays in some sort of gadget/pivot role this year for the majority because I just cannot see Urban risking a early season loss while Braxton gets his feet under him at QB. By the time he does have his feet under him with the necessary reps it'll be too late to switch. Gadget Braxton up, make him your red zone QB late in the year, and then get him ready for the NFL scouts late in the year.

 

[RB07OSU]

62 TD's, 2 INT's.... That's all I need. You can play 2-5 WR's at a time you can only play 1 QB and he'd better know how to facilitate the football. What's the point of recruiting all of this speed and depth everywhere (seriously, it's full on ridiculous what we have at Skill) if we cant get the ball to those players. I get that Burrows played in a lesser league but IMO not even Gibson puts up those video game numbers if he plays at Athens. We don't need someone who is a running first QB anymore. What we need is someone to be timely with his runs, makes quick decisions, has great accuracy, and who puts the others around him in a position to succeed. Maybe that is Gibson but to me that looks more like Burrows' description.

Gibson will find the field either way and probably before Burrows but IMO it will be in some capacity to take advantage of his speed. Either way, Gibson will be a star and a huge part of this team (probably even as a true freshman) so where he plays really doesn't matter.

Also to RB- I feel it is Imminent that Braxton plays in some sort of gadget/pivot role this year for the majority because I just cannot see Urban risking a early season loss while Braxton gets his feet under him at QB. By the time he does have his feet under him with the necessary reps it'll be too late to switch. Gadget Braxton up, make him your red zone QB late in the year, and then get him ready for the NFL scouts late in the year.

Great post. I bolded your post for a reason...regardless of the position, we all agree that TG is going to be a star here. We will all have to wait to see in what capacity, but he will be if he puts in the work.

But I also agree that he needs to make quick decisions with the ball to stay at QB. We depended on TP/Brax to constantly run around and try to make plays because we did not have the depth or level of playmakers we have now...it created highlight plays for them, but way less points on the board than when we were actually balanced. JT had a TON of yards that can be attributed to him hitting his man in stride on a bubble or screen. Do not minimize what I said because honestly, Brax/TP could never do that consistently and JT possesses a special skill to do that. But the point is if a QB has an embarrassment of riches to throw to, he simply must be consistent in giving them a chance to make a play. And of course JT made some plays well beyond that scope but the point is he only had to make them when needed, not as a common necessity. My most sincere hope is that TG can hit those routine throws with such efficiency because he can take it to another level with his legs. But if not, he will be a star at another position. Again, we have plenty of time to figure that out.

 

[ScriptOhio]

I don't understand why so many people are so convinced Gibson won't play QB. Sure, he's raw as a passer but so are all high school dual threat QBs. You aren't going to have an 18 year old 5 star athlete who's also Peyton Manning as a passing prospect. Braxton was seriously raw as a freshman and he turned OK. And Urban's job isn't to turn him into an NFL QB (despite what he may have been telling him) it's to turn him into a guy who can win games at the college level. I don't see any reason Gibson can't do that with the physical tools he possesses.

Yeah, I 'd say Cardale Jones was definitely "really raw as a passer" too when he arrived on campus and (so far) he has turned out all right.

 

[pnuts34]

Yeah, I 'd say Cardale Jones was definitely "really raw as a passer" too when he arrived on campus and (so far) he has turned out all right.

I'd say Braxton and TP were also raw as passers too...

 

[buckeye4ever21]

Yeah, I 'd say Cardale Jones was definitely "really raw as a passer" too when he arrived on campus and (so far) he has turned out all right.

Cardale wasn't raw as a passer in high school, his arm strength and mechanics are actually advanced coming out of hs. It's the footwork, reading of defenses and maturity were lacking. Pryor was extremely behind in all facets of passing coming out of hs.