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WR Santonio Holmes (Super Bowl XLIII MVP)

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You obviously haven't seen a lot of domestic disputes. Your statement, "Any male can hold a woman so that she would not be able to do any harm to you", is blatently narrow-minded and naive. I've seen several cases where the woman got the better of the man for that exact reason, i.e., the guy was afraid to doing anything back because of fear of reprisal (and the woman knew it). I've seen a fair amount of couples where the wife was significantly bigger than the husband, and other couples where the wife was in much better physical condition than the husband. Domestic violence is never a good thing, but to say one gender can't do anything to the other, regardless of what the other is doing, is wrong.
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in columbus doing just that (holding a woman in a fashion so she can't hit you) is enough to get you arrested for DV assault.
 
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sandgk said:
Before NFL Draft Holmes was always looked on as model citizen - great student, friendly and full of smiles.
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I'm not sure I agree with Holmes being a "model citizen" before the draft. Didn't he get in some trouble outside some dorm on campus with TS a few years back? I'm not saying I think he's a bad person or anything, but someone who is a "model citizen" has no such blemishes in his past, IMO.

Second, a misdemeanor of the first degree (M1) carries a maximum sentence of six months in prison and a $1,000 fine.
 
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Santonio Holmes Arrested (ONN)

Reported by Kevin Landers and Dom Tiberi


Former Ohio State football player Santonio Holmes is sitting in jail, charged with domestic violence and assault.

The alleged victim is the mother of Holmes youngest child. She called police around 11 p.m. Sunday, and an hour later, the 22-year-old Holmes was in handcuffs, headed for jail.

The following is an excerpt from a 911 call:

Dispatcher: What's going on there?
Caller: Some domestic violence (inaudible). He's putting his hands on his girl and the baby is here screaming her head off.

That child is the daughter of the NFL rookie and first round draft pick. The mother, Leshae Boone, called Columbus police.

Boone: My boyfriend, my baby's daddy, whatever you want to call him, put his hands on me. He's leaving right now. I don't know where he's going.
Dispatcher: What's he leaving in?
Caller: He's leaving because I called the police.

According to a police complaint, the mother told police Holmes choked her, threw her to the floor, grabbed her arms and slammed her into a door, leaving her with bruises, pain and a torn shirt.

10TV requested an interview with Holmes, but he declined. He's charged with one count of domestic violence and assault.

Domestic violence is a misdemeanor punishable by a maximum 180 days in jail and $1,000 fine.

Holmes will appear in court Tuesday for his arraignment. It's likely he will enter a plea and his bond will be set.

On the football field, Holmes is a very talented player and that is why the Super Bowl champion Steelers drafted him in the first round.

At this time, the Steelers have no comment on Holmes' latest run in with the law.

Coach Bill Cowher is a no-nonsense kind of coach and will not be happy with has taken place. Holmes remains unsigned with the Steelers and it will be interesting to see how this situation will affect the contract negotiations.

Cowher was not happy with Holmes when he was charged with disorderly conduct at a Florida hotel over the Memorial Day weekend.

"Whatever he did wrong, I don't think he handled it properly," Cowher said then. "I think he'll learn from it and understand the scrutiny he's under. We have not talked face to face about it. I don't have any long-term concerns."

Holmes was Ohio State's leading receiver this past season with 53 catches for just under 1000 yards and 11 touchdowns. He gave up his final year of eligibility at Ohio State to enter the NFL draft.
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tsteele316 said:
in columbus doing just that (holding a woman in a fashion so she can't hit you) is enough to get you arrested for DV assault.
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Well, then that's just another example of good intentions (DV laws) gone way awry. So, according to the law in Columbus, you are not allowed to physically protect yourself if you're male and your attacker is female...
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
You obviously haven't seen a lot of domestic disputes. Your statement, "Any male can hold a woman so that she would not be able to do any harm to you", is blatently narrow-minded and naive. I've seen several cases where the woman got the better of the man for that exact reason, i.e., the guy was afraid to doing anything back because of fear of reprisal (and the woman knew it). I've seen a fair amount of couples where the wife was significantly bigger than the husband, and other couples where the wife was in much better physical condition than the husband. Domestic violence is never a good thing, but to say one gender can't do anything to the other, regardless of what the other is doing, is wrong.
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Yeah, I'm sure an NFL caliber athlete can't stand up to the "beatings" of a woman. Maybe she would outrun him too so he couldn't get away. :roll1:
Hilarious the ignorant logic that is employed to stick up for Buckeyes that surprisingly isn't used when that player happens not to be a Buckeye.
 
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tsteele316 said:
in columbus doing just that (holding a woman in a fashion so she can't hit you) is enough to get you arrested for DV assault.
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I've seen a case in Columbus where the man was accused of aggressively pinning the woman against the wall, with one hand on her throat. He didn't get arrested. I believe the police, in Columbus or anywhere else, require some evidence of aggressive violence having taken place before they will make an arrest. They don't want to go through the hassle (and it is a hassle, to some extent, for them) without reasonable cause.
 
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tibor75 said:
Yeah, I'm sure an NFL caliber athlete can't defend himself against a woman. :roll1:
Hilarious the ignorant logic that is employed to stick up for Buckeyes that surprisingly isn't used when that player happens not to be a Buckeye.
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My comments were directed at the generalizations made by other posters, not at the specifics of the case (which weren't brought out until after my post). They did teach English in Sri Lanka, didn't they? :roll1:

If Holmes indeed "choked her, threw her to the floor, grabbed her arms and slammed her into a door, leaving her with bruises, pain and a torn shirt" per the claim, then his ass needs to be charged unless she had pulled a knife or gun on him.
 
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buckeyeboy said:
I'm not sure I agree with Holmes being a "model citizen" before the draft. Didn't he get in some trouble outside some dorm on campus with TS a few years back? I'm not saying I think he's a bad person or anything, but someone who is a "model citizen" has no such blemishes in his past, IMO.

Second, a misdemeanor of the first degree (M1) carries a maximum sentence of six months in prison and a $1,000 fine.
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You definition of model citizen and mine differ. I'm going to give a kid growing up a chance to grow up. That will not make him my first choice for class president though.

His only infractions prior to this point are minor traffic offenses. And that isn't an opinion, it is a fact.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
My comments were directed at the generalizations made by other posters, not at the specifics of the case (which weren't brought out until after my post). They did teach English in Sri Lanka, didn't they? :roll1:.
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I'm from Sir Lanka now? Nice to see the number of countries you are familiar with improving. I guess you have time to study the almanac now that you're no longer a moderator.
 
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I see Santonio went with Sam Shamansky as his attorney. For those of you who don't know, he's also Frank Solich's attorney in his motion to reverse his OVI conviction. BIG $$$$$ Attorney! If there's any way out of this....
 
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