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WR Santonio Holmes (Super Bowl XLIII MVP)

It has just been reported that Holbrook is pregnant with Prescott Burgess' baby.

Clarett is pissed. He originally began his anti-OSU rampage when the anatomy department couldn't hook him up with the ability to give birth to children.
 
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Santonio Holmes and the OSU record book

Was just looking over his career numbers and how they stack up all time at OSU. I was midly suprised to see where he's at and even more suprised to see where he can reasonably be expected to get to.

S Holmes career receiving numbers:
'03 32/549/7 TD
'04 55/769/7 TD
Total: 87/1,318/14 TD 15.15 ypc

what his career avg project to in '05: 44/667/7TD
which would put him at roughly 131/2,000/21 TD for his career.


First the big one, total receiving yards career: Santonio has a chance to become only the 7th 2,000 yd receiver in OSU history passing some guy's named Glenn and Galloway.
[pre]Pass Reception Yards - Career
2,898 Michael Jenkins 165 receptions .. 2000-03
2,855 David Boston 191 receptions .. 1996-98
2,792 Gary Williams 154 receptions .. 1979-82
2,725 Cris Carter 168 receptions .. 1984-86
2,252 Doug Donley 106 receptions .. 1977-80
2,090 Dee Miller 132 receptions .. 1995-98
1,894 Joey Galloway 108 receptions .. 1991-94
1,849 Ken-Yon Rambo 106 receptions .. 1997-00
1,809 Jeff Graham 99 receptions .... 1988-90
1,707 Cedric Anderson 79 receptions .... 1980-83
1,677 Terry Glenn 79 receptions .... 1993-95
1,481 John Frank 121 receptions .. 1980-83
1,419 Bobby Olive 91 receptions .... 1987-90
1,289 Brian Stablein 96 receptions .... 1989-92
1,277 Buster Tillman 88 receptions .... 1993-96
1,268 Reggie German 80 receptions .... 1997-00
1,118 Billy Anders 108 receptions .. 1965-67
1,175 Mike Lanese 73 receptions .... 1982-85
1,136 Dimitrious Stanley 63 receptions .... 1993-96
1,120 Chris Sanders 71 receptions .... 1992-94 [/pre]


Pass receptions career: Santonio could end up with 130-135 which would put him 5th all time. He's already 15th if ne never catches another pass.

[pre]Pass Receptions - Career
191 David Boston 2,855 yds ................ 1996-98
168 Cris Carter 2,725 yds ................ 1984-86
165 Michael Jenkins 2,898 yds ................ 1999-03
154 Gary Williams 2,792 yds ................ 1979-82
132 Dee Miller 2,090 yds ................ 1995-98
121 John Frank 1,418 yds ................ 1980-83
108 Joey Galloway 1,894 yds ................ 1991-94
108 Billy Anders 1,318 yds ................ 1965-67
106 Ken-Yon Rambo 1,849 yds ................ 1997-00
106 Doug Donley 2,252 yds ................ 1977-80
99 Jeff Graham 1,812 yds ................ 1988-90
96 Brian Stablein 1,289 yds ................ 1989-92
91 Bobby Olive 1,419 yds ................ 1987-90
88 Buster Tillman 1,277 yds ................ 1993-96[/pre]

Career receiving TD's: Holmes is already 8th all time and with another 7 TD's becomes 3rd all time behind only Boston and Carter.
[pre]Touchdown Receptions - Career
34 David Boston ........................................ 1996-98
27 Cris Carter ............................................ 1984-86
19 Joey Galloway ....................................... 1991-94
17 Terry Glenn ........................................... 1993-95
16 Michael Jenkins ..................................... 2000-03
16 Doug Donley ......................................... 1977-80
16 Gary Williams ........................................ 1979-82
13 Dimitrioius Stanley ................................. 1993-96
12 Cedric Anderson ................................... 1980-83
12 Jeff Graham .......................................... 1988-90
10 John Lumpkin ....................................... 1987-90
10 Bobby Olive ........................................... 1987-90[/pre]


Bottom line is that he has a chance to hit those numbers this year and that means his name will have to start coming up in "top 5 OSU WR's of all time" conversations. Statistically speaking he would outpace Glenn and Galloway in all 3 categories and therefore his name has to come up pretty quick after Boston and Carter.

Thoughts?
 
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Considering that's an average of those years, and that he could put up better numbers this year with Ginn drawing a lot of the defenses' attention, Holmes has to be mentioned up there. Oh, and by the way, this is only gonna be his JUNIOR year. He's almost certainly going to the NFL after this year, but if he stayed he'd shatter these numbers, quite likely.
 
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thackattack said:
Considering that's an average of those years, and that he could put up better numbers this year with Ginn drawing a lot of the defenses' attention, Holmes has to be mentioned up there. Oh, and by the way, this is only gonna be his JUNIOR year. He's almost certainly going to the NFL after this year, but if he stayed he'd shatter these numbers, quite likely.


Yeah, I projected a very safe number. He has actuall put that up in essentially 17-18 games. As far as him only playing 3 years thats fair, only Jenkins played 4 on that list. Boston, Carter, Glenn and Galloway were all 3 year guys as well.
 
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Couldn't agree more. I think he is one of the best WR's we've ever had and deserves to be listed with Boston, Jenkins, Carter, Galloway. He's fast as hell, has real good hands, makes the plays at big times in big games, and he's solved the fumble problem he had for a while in his freshman year.

He's had some bad luck with timing though. He was in Michael Jenkins' shadow two years ago, and right when he started to dominate last year, someone named Teddy Ballgame showed up to play. Now, everyone is pumped about TG2's possibilities next year, and Holmes is the forgotten man. It's very unfortunate.

Santonio Holmes will put up numbers closer to last years than two years ago, so I think assuming that he will only achieve his two year average is being a little conservative. Also, if he stays for his senior year (VERY unlikely), he could break all the records you listed.

I see you guys beat me to it.
 
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What I guess I never realized, until looking at these numbers just now, is how sick the offense was from 1996-1998. Obviously, I know the team was explosive, but for David Boston and Dee Miller to both be in the Top-6 for yards and receptions -- that's just silly.

If only 1 in 10 passes Miller caught had been thrown Boston's direction, he would have handily broken the 200 catch and 3000 yard marks.
 
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There's an article on him in the March 19 BSB (I'm not sure if you've all seen it yet) which is pretty interesting. My impression after reading it is that he was thinking about possibly going pro this year (he would have been able to since he was redshirted, as you know), and that he may not come back after '05. Nevertheless, I'm glad he's back at least for one more year -- he's a great receiver and should have a chance to put up some huge numbers this fall.
 
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Santonio's biggest strength is his route running. If Ginn or Gonzalez ran routes as well as Holmes does, they'd double their production. Just look how effective Ginn became when he sharpened his route running in the 2nd half of the year. I think Holmes learned a lot from Jenkins, who I think may be the best route runner Ohio State has had.
 
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OSU5NC said:
Santonio's biggest strength is his route running. If Ginn or Gonzalez ran routes as well as Holmes does, they'd double their production. Just look how effective Ginn became when he sharpened his route running in the 2nd half of the year. I think Holmes learned a lot from Jenkins, who I think may be the best route runner Ohio State has had.
He continued his great route running in atlanta...its just too bad he doesnt have a QB to throw him the ball.
 
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OSU5NC said:
Just look how effective Ginn became when he sharpened his route running in the 2nd half of the year.
I think the fact our QBs weren't running for their lives or laying on their backs the second half of the year had a lot to do with the increased productivity too. We could've had Jenkins, Boston, and whoever the hell else the first six games of the year and wouldn't have made a lick of difference because the o-line stunk from here to Iowa (literally).
 
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OSU5NC said:
Santonio's biggest strength is his route running. If Ginn or Gonzalez ran routes as well as Holmes does, they'd double their production. Just look how effective Ginn became when he sharpened his route running in the 2nd half of the year. I think Holmes learned a lot from Jenkins, who I think may be the best route runner Ohio State has had.
Nevermind.. proved myself wrong..

Michael Jenkins (Ohio State) – 6’4” 220lbs 4.53/40 – Ranked by most publications anywhere from the sixth to ninth best receiver, we believe at the end of the day, Jenkins may actually be the second or third best pass catching prospect in the draft. The big knock on Jenkins is and will continue to be his speed. With a 4.53-40, he is indeed not in the elite burner class. However, Michael Jenkins does one thing as well as any receiver in this draft, catch passes and make plays. In three seasons on the field as a Buckeye, Jenkins caught 157 passes for over 2,700 yards, 16 touchdowns and an exceptional average of 17.4, and all this at run first Ohio State. So much for the speed issue, Jenkins gets open and will make plays at the next level.<o:p> </o:p>

Pro – Excellent size. Good concentration. Runs good routes. Will make the big catch.<o:p> </o:p>

Con – Lacks game breaker speed and only has average burst.<o:p> </o:p>

Final Grade 4.2 – Didn’t get a lot of chances to showcase at OSU, but may very well have the most upside of any receiver in this years draft.
 
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Hazell: punt away from Holmes

I thought this quote was enjoyable, and wonder if Wisconsin intended to kick away from Holmes. I doubt Michigan did :) Someone else can post the rest of the article, I didn't want this quote to get lost in the long writeup

BN Free interview of Hazell
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Darrell Hazell

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</td> <td valign="top"> By Bucknuts.com Staff
Date: Jul 14, 2005

Wide receivers coach Darrell Hazell made a positive impact on last year's team after coming over from Rutgers. At the end of the 2004 season, we had a chance to speak with Hazell about his first year at OSU. The Q&A ran in the March 2005 edition of Bucknuts the Magazine, and today we have some excerpts from that article. Read on for more.
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BTM:
Whose idea was the two men back?

Hazell: “That was Coach Tressel’s idea actually. Coach Tressel kind of pounded the table for that, and I totally agree. We need to get some help back there especially if they are going to start kicking away from guys. The original reason is that we thought they were going to start kicking away from Santonio (Holmes), but that has helped us out tremendously.”

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