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WR Dane Sanzenbacher (Official Thread)

3074326;1915543; said:
I don't think it's a race issue at all. I should've just said that. Thinking every team in the NFL discriminated against a player because of his skin color is ridiculous, in my opinion. A few teams, maybe.. but even then.. the entire league? No.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm not arguing that all of the NFL GM's and coaches are looking at Dane and saying "OH... he's white, that's no good", but rather that they are simply not even looking at him in the first place because they all have this preconceived notion of what a WR should look like, and that notion is black and tall.

Or in other words, I'm not saying "[censored] those specific NFL coaches for their racist/discriminatory ideals!", I am saying "[censored] the NFL as a whole and it's racist/discriminatory ideals that coaches take for granted and tend to not challenge!".

In any case, I think we should agree to disagree, because I think that claiming that race has nothing to do with a talent like Dane going undrafted is what is ridiculous in my IMO.

But anyways, I didn't think about the fact that Dane is probably in a better situation going undrafted than being drafted late. That makes me less ornery.
 
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DiaBuckeye;1916345; said:
That's not what I'm saying. I'm not arguing that all of the NFL GM's and coaches are looking at Dane and saying "OH... he's white, that's no good", but rather that they are simply not even looking at him in the first place because they all have this preconceived notion of what a WR should look like, and that notion is black and tall.

Or in other words, I'm not saying "[censored] those specific NFL coaches for their racist/discriminatory ideals!", I am saying "[censored] the NFL as a whole and it's racist/discriminatory ideals that coaches take for granted and tend to not challenge!".

But anyways, I didn't think about the fact that Dane is probably in a better situation going undrafted than being drafted late. That makes me less ornery.

You're right...they aren't saying "oh...he's white, that's no good", but rather "he's a pretty good receiver but he's already had 3 concussions and he plays a lot like Austin Collie who will retire on his next big hit".

Multiple concussions entering the NFL draft nowadays is probably as bad as a positive marijuana test. Are you going to take a flier on a 6th-7th round player who failed a drug test? Probably not.
 
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Gatorubet;1915551; said:
I had not thought of that, but it is a very good point, now that the league is paying more attention to the brain injury issue.


That's why so many single digit Wunderlic Wonders were drafted early, not much egg to fucking scramble.
 
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billmac91;1916347; said:
Multiple concussions entering the NFL draft nowadays is probably as bad as a positive marijuana test.

I would say it's worse. With failed drug tests it would depend on the individual talent and their previous character issues. With concussions you can't do anything more then hope they don't happen.
 
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OSU star in limbo after draft
Sanzenbacher has to wait for labor deal
BY MATT MARKEY
BLADE SPORTS WRITER

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Dane Sanzenbacher admitted he was disappointed about not being drafted over the weekend. Dane Sanzenbacher admitted he was disappointed about not being drafted over the weekend. THE BLADE Enlarge | Photo Reprints

COLUMBUS ? So this is what limbo feels like.

Ohio State wide receiver Dane Sanzenbacher and a couple hundred other college football players who were not picked in last weekend?s NFL draft are now waiting for the league?s legal wrangling to end so teams can sign them as free agents.

That would open the door for potential pros such as Sanzenbacher, the Buckeyes? MVP from the 2010 season.

?With the owners and the players still in court and a lockout still in place, nothing can happen until this all gets settled,? Sanzenbacher said Monday. ?For me, it?s just continuing to wait. It?s not a comfortable position to be in, but there?s really nothing you can do about it.?

Sanzenbacher (5-11, 182), who most NFL scouts described as ?undersized? but equipped with ?elite quickness and dependable hands,? had expected to hear his name called in the latter rounds of the draft on Saturday. When that did not happen, in any normal year, the phone rings almost immediately and players considered to have NFL caliber talent get multiple invitations to come to a pro team?s camp and show their stuff.

?By the end of the night, you know your destination and you can get that off your mind,? Sanzenbacher said. ?But this is not business as usual. This isn?t an ordinary year.?

Potential free agents remain locked in a state of suspended nonanimation as the feud continues. Talks between the NFL and its players? union stalled in February, and after the union was decertified in early March, the teams locked the players out. The dispute has bounced around in court since then. If the players receive a favorable ruling soon, the free agent invitations could come out immediately.

?I?m under the assumption that if it gets lifted, even for a day, then the teams can start talking to players about coming in as free agents,? Sanzenbacher said. ?So, until that happens, I?ll just continue to finish up at school and keep working out to be ready.?

Sanzenbacher is a marketing major who will graduate from Ohio State in June.

?I fully understand that the NFL is a business, and sometimes these things happen in business. That?s why I?m not super bitter about it.?

Cont...

http://toledoblade.com/Ohio-State/2011/05/03/OSU-star-in-limbo-after-draft.html
 
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Draft snub a detour for Sanzenbacher
Ohio State receiver must go free-agent route
Wednesday, May 4, 2011 =
By Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
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"I wouldn't have wanted to have anything handed to me when I came to Ohio State, and I guess it will be no different at the next level." ? Dane Sanzenbacher

Now that the disappointment has faded a bit, Dane Sanzenbacher looks back and sees a certain symmetry to his career.

He came to Ohio State as an unknown who had to fight for everything he got, and he will leave Ohio State in the same position.

The thing is, between arrival and departure, Sanzenbacher thought he had built up enough of a resume that he would be drafted into the NFL instead of having to claw his way in.

From humble beginnings as an unheralded receiver from Toledo Central Catholic, Sanzenbacher fashioned a fine four-year career.

It ended with his being voted Ohio State's 2010 Most Valuable Player and leading the Big Ten in touchdown catches (11), while grabbing 55 passes for 948 yards (second in the league, by 5 yards).

The consensus of the pre-draft analysis had Sanzenbacher being picked on Saturday, probably in the sixth round.

Yet seven rounds came and went - 254 players - without his name being called.

"Looking back, I guess I could almost say it was a mistake on my part, thinking that I had gotten to a point in my career where something would be handed to me," Sanzenbacher said yesterday. "Judging by this (draft snub), I might never get to that point.

"That's probably a good thing, though. I wouldn't have wanted to have anything handed to me when I came to Ohio State, and I guess it will be no different at the next level."

Cont...

http://www.dispatch.com/live/conten...t-snub-a-detour-for-sanzenbacher.html?sid=101
 
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leading the Big Ten in touchdown catches (11), while grabbing 55 passes for 948 yards (second in the league, by 5 yards).

I'm not shocked by any stats regarding Dane and when he finally signs with an NFL team it won't shock me when his career stats are better than 90% of the WR taken in this years draft. That's right 90%. Looking back 5-6 years from now 31 teams will regret passing on Dane.
 
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Buckskin86;1918248; said:

Dane can verbalize his goals very well. Is it any surprise that this snubbing will only motivate him more? He'll get his shot and when he does he will be a force to deal with. He probably memorize the play book so fast that the coaches will wonder if he had an advance copy. We have not seen the last of Dane Sanzenbacher. Go Bucks.
 
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And then there is Dane Sanzenbacher out of Ohio State.
According to WaltersFootball.com, The 5'11 182 pound Sanzenbacher was projected to be drafted in rounds five thru seven despite catching 55 passes for 948 yards for 11 touchdowns as a senior.
Sanzenbacher is currently ranked #42 out of 50 NFL undrafted free agents, according to the website,Chicitysports.com
With his collection of shifty moves and good hands, Sanzenbacher has been compared favorably to Wes Welker of the New England Patriots as he played a lot in the slot position while in Columbus.
While Welker is highly regarded as the top possession receiver and go-to guy in the NFL, Sanzenbacher was the main possession receiver and go-to guy for Ohio State quarterback, Terelle Pryor.
The similarities between the two players are even more remarkable off the field as Welker was also undrafted out of Texas Tech just like Sanzenbacher.
While Sanzenbacher is 5'11 in comparison to Welker's 5'9, Welker outweighs Sanzenbacher by a mere three pounds, 185 to 182.
With Welker just turning 30 this May, New England may want to look into grooming a heir apparent to Welker, as the Patriots have already invested in Tom Brady's replacement in third-round draft pick, Ryan Mallett out of Arkansas.
The Patriots wide receiver corps is relatively thin outside of Welker, Brandon Tate and Deion Branch. With the exception of Tate, both Welker and Branch are in their 30's.
Considering the history of solid drafts under coach, Bill Belichick and recent success of undrafted free agent running back, BenJarvis Green-Ellis, Sanzenbacher may just be a great fit in Foxborough

http://gridirongrit.com/nfl-could-d...e-heir-apparent-to-wes-welker-in-new-england/

OK, I can see Dane in Bean Town. This looks like a good fit for him.
 
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While Welker is highly regarded as the top possession receiver and go-to guy in the NFL, Sanzenbacher was the main possession receiver and go-to guy for Ohio State quarterback, Terelle Pryor.
The similarities between the two players are even more remarkable off the field as Welker was also undrafted out of Texas Tech just like Sanzenbacher.
While Sanzenbacher is 5?11 in comparison to Welker?s 5?9, Welker outweighs Sanzenbacher by a mere three pounds, 185 to 182.
Also, they are white.
 
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Steve Watson: Denver Broncos
  • 1 Time Pro-Bowler
  • Un-drafted free agent from Temple University
  • Played from 1979 to 1987
  • Career: 126 games, 353 receptions, 6112 yards, 17.3 yards/catch, 36 touchdowns.
An undrafted free agent out of Temple University, Steve Watson is now the receivers coach of the Denver Bronco's.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2582415/top_10_nfl_white_wide_receivers_of_pg3.html?cat=37

From Temple and a white guy?

Why are White Recievers in the NFL mostly Number 83?

Drew Bennett STL 83
Kevin Walter HOU 83
Heath Miller PIT 83
Greg Camarillo MIA 83
Wes Welker NE 83
Billy Miller NO 83

Whats also wierd is that they are mostly TE or slot receivers, i've just noticed that pattern

Will Dane be #83?, not if he plays for the Patriots, Wes has that number.


http://www.suite101.com/content/the-nfls-top-5-white-wide-receivers-of-the-last-20-years-a231126

Then Dane should be a "Shoe-in" for a white receivers job in the NFL since he's white and played in the Shoe. :biggrin:
 
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