That was a department suspension, not an NCAA suspension. As far as the NCAA is concerned he was a DNP.
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That was a department suspension, not an NCAA suspension. As far as the NCAA is concerned he was a DNP.
The big thing is what constitutes a "season" to the NCAA. Only the regular season games? Regular season and conference title games? All games, including any/all playoff games?
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If it's every game and they play 14 and if they don't count vt, then he played under 30%.
If they count vt, he played over 30% even if they have a 15 game season.
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If VT doesn't count and they use a 12 game season, that amounts to 33%. Would the NCAA really get that picky?
Christian Bryant played 5 games and was declined a medical redshirt in a 14 game season, which equates to 35%.
Christian Bryant played 5 games and was declined a medical redshirt in a 14 game season, which equates to 35%.
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mattynokes
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FWIW Noah Spence is listed as R-Jr on EKU'S roster, so the suspension shouldn't count Smith.
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Sevens
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But it's not just the medical hardship waiver rules. Even if they qualify him under the waiver rules, he would also have to get a 6th year. You have a 5 year clock in which you can compete in 4 of those seasons. This is his 5th year. He played 2 years of JUCO, redshirted 1 year at OSU, played last year and this year. That's 5 years. To get a 6th year you have to show that you lost an additional year because of an injury that happened either during your 5 years or your last year of high school. He didn't lose an additional year to injury. He lost an year when he redshirted in 2013. So not only does he have to qualify for the waiver, he also has to get a 6th year, and I don't see how he qualifies for that 6th year.
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mattynokes
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I think some are trying to over analyze the medical hardship waiver like they're thinking back to NCAA 06 where the game would NEVER grant a waiver to a player that you already redshirted. However, the NCAA has shown to give 6th years to basically 2 situations; a player the missed significant portions of multiple seasons (but may have played in the second half/more than 30% of season) or a player that misses all or most of a single season.
The real question is if the playoffs count towards the count or not. Conference championship games count, but bowl games do not. Since the playoffs are now NCAA sanctioned (or however they call it), I think it might count. So, it's fairly simple. If OSU gets to the playoffs (and it counts) then Corey has a good case, but if OSU's game count is under 14, then he's likely in a Christian Bryant situation.
The real question is if the playoffs count towards the count or not. Conference championship games count, but bowl games do not. Since the playoffs are now NCAA sanctioned (or however they call it), I think it might count. So, it's fairly simple. If OSU gets to the playoffs (and it counts) then Corey has a good case, but if OSU's game count is under 14, then he's likely in a Christian Bryant situation.
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Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
FIGHT TO THE END: OHIO STATE WIDE RECEIVER COREY SMITH
Ohio State's 2015 senior class has a chance to win its 50th game over a four-year period New Year's Day in the Fiesta Bowl against Notre Dame. Before kickoff in their final collegiate game, Eleven Warriors will take a brief look back at each player's time in Columbus.
WHERE HE'S FROM
Corey Smith hails from Akron, Ohio, but the unheralded 2011 Akron Buchtel product took a detour en route to Columbus.
Smith started his collegiate career at Grand Rapids Community College. He posted 28 receptions, 438 yards, and two touchdowns in what turned out to be the last season for the Raiders in their 80-year history.
Smith headed south in 2012, where he recorded 51 receptions, 733 yards and nine touchdowns for Buddy Stephens' East Mississippi Community College. For his efforts, 247 named Smith a four-star talent as the No. 9 overall JUCO prospect and No. 3 wide receiver.
The production caught the eye of Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer, who needed wide receiver depth. Smith signed with Ohio State in 2013, becoming the first JUCO player to sign with the Buckeyes since linebacker Larry Grant in 2006.
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WHERE HE'S HEADED
Smith broke his leg against Indiana and didn't walk with Ohio State's seniors on senior day. According to Ohio State spokesperson Jerry Emig, there's "hope" Smith could be retained in 2016 on a medical redshirt.
If the NCAA doesn't side with Smith, he'll undoubtedly take his shot at the NFL, though it will be as a camp invitee. Smith lacks ideal size and speed, so if he's to make it in the NFL it will be as a slot receiver or perhaps at defensive back, a position he played during his community college days. If that fails, Smith has the talent to play in Canada.
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...2015/12/65154/fight-to-the-end-corey-smith-jr
Ohio State's 2015 senior class has a chance to win its 50th game over a four-year period New Year's Day in the Fiesta Bowl against Notre Dame. Before kickoff in their final collegiate game, Eleven Warriors will take a brief look back at each player's time in Columbus.
WHERE HE'S FROM
Corey Smith hails from Akron, Ohio, but the unheralded 2011 Akron Buchtel product took a detour en route to Columbus.
Smith started his collegiate career at Grand Rapids Community College. He posted 28 receptions, 438 yards, and two touchdowns in what turned out to be the last season for the Raiders in their 80-year history.
Smith headed south in 2012, where he recorded 51 receptions, 733 yards and nine touchdowns for Buddy Stephens' East Mississippi Community College. For his efforts, 247 named Smith a four-star talent as the No. 9 overall JUCO prospect and No. 3 wide receiver.
The production caught the eye of Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer, who needed wide receiver depth. Smith signed with Ohio State in 2013, becoming the first JUCO player to sign with the Buckeyes since linebacker Larry Grant in 2006.
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WHERE HE'S HEADED
Smith broke his leg against Indiana and didn't walk with Ohio State's seniors on senior day. According to Ohio State spokesperson Jerry Emig, there's "hope" Smith could be retained in 2016 on a medical redshirt.
If the NCAA doesn't side with Smith, he'll undoubtedly take his shot at the NFL, though it will be as a camp invitee. Smith lacks ideal size and speed, so if he's to make it in the NFL it will be as a slot receiver or perhaps at defensive back, a position he played during his community college days. If that fails, Smith has the talent to play in Canada.
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...2015/12/65154/fight-to-the-end-corey-smith-jr
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IMO it'd be huge if we could Corey back for one more year. It'd lessen the blow of losing Thomas and be a bigger get than a HS WR in a recruiting class, as he knows what it takes to make it on the field in college and has the strength and good enough speed to play outside. He'd also be a good mentor for the young kids. He and Brown on the outside with Marshall in the Slot(or wherever he wants for that matter) on paper sounds like a very dangerous WR trio
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I believe Mario Ojemudia recently learned that he would not be getting a medical redshirt waiver and they were injured in the same week.
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buckeyesin07
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
Corey played one less game than Mario this year. Then again, that was due to a suspension.
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