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"Lewd and lascivious battery" is one of the two charges filed against Debra LaFave, the Florida schoolteacher, earlier this year (the other being "lewd and lascivicious exhibition). And that was for having sex with a 14-year-old boy...so it does appear to be Florida's statutory rape charge.

Having said that, these are only charges, and as others have pointed out, Dukes has been convicted of nothing.

Like the Troy Smith story, it is foolish to first speculate and then judge and condemn people based on facts that no one knows.

Smoking Gun on Debra LaFave--Charges on Page 2
 
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tmporter said:
This incident could not have happened in the same day. The second charge is that of a warrant arrest, meaning that a complaint was filed and the county prosecuter had seen a judge to have a warrant issued. This all takes time. The top charge is what they will charge a MINOR with for having sex with another MINOR. He was under 18 and so was she.
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The only thing that will drill him is if she was under Florida's age of consent. Regardless if Dukes is otherwise techincally a minor, he was still of consent age while she wasn't. If the age of consent is 16 (which it is in many states), and a boy has sex on his 16th birthday with his girlfriend who is only a few days younger, it's still technically statutory rape, although both are minors.
 
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"I can assure you, you'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially," well you know the rest.


1 out of 3 isn't very good people.

Guess Dukes wasn't a "tressel-type recruit." Or maybe he was and we need to re-evaluate what a "tressel-type recruit" is.
 
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StadiumDorm said:
"I can assure you, you'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially," well you know the rest.


1 out of 3 isn't very good people.

Guess Dukes wasn't a "tressel-type recruit." Or maybe he was and we need to re-evaluate what a "tressel-type recruit" is.
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2 out of 3, the classroom part is much, much improved under Tress.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
What "history and reputation" that Tressel and Geiger are "building"? Would you be characterizing Cooper in the same light if he were still the coach and Clarett did the same shit? Clarett is the psycho, not Tressel or Geiger, so don't blame them for his actions.
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Exactly Mili. There is a good thread on this topic a couple pages back here:
Cooper Discipline Thread

And while we're at it, let's include all the major football programs that have had disciplinary issues: Penn St (variety, including sex charges), Colorado (tons of sex charges), Nebraska (best player beating up wife), etc. The list goes on and on and on...
 
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Dude.... no offense... but some people here.... holy shit.....

If Albert Dukes had sex with a minor... that's his problem. Did Tressel put the condom on Dukes' penis? Holy shit, some people forgot to take their anti-depressants this month...

Hell, no one even knows when this act occured, let alone what the ACTUAL allegations are (technically "fooling around" and having sex are the same when it comes to statutory rape laws)...
 
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He is charged with Lewd or lascivious battery, which is defined as:

Florida Statutes 800.04

(4) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS BATTERY.--A person who:

(a) Engages in sexual activity with a person 12 years of age or older but less than 16 years of age.

This is a Felony of the Second Degree, punishable as follows:

Florida Statutes 755.082

(c) For a felony of the second degree, by a term of imprisonment not exceeding 15 years.

There are probably sentencing guidelines which inform the court where in the range of 0-15 years any particular offense should fall. I'm not going to look it up.

I think this is the definition of "sexual activity":

794.05 Unlawful sexual activity with certain minors. As used in this section, "sexual activity" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another; however, sexual activity does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose.

This is a pretty daggone serious charge.
 
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This covers the use of vibrators to wake up fainting little girls and other 19th century remedies...


Its just some stupid caveat to protect doctors, emergency personnel, nurses etc... seems obvious.. but whatever.
 
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Well, that's right AKAK, it does seem obvious, but if it's not stated, some over-zealous prosecutor will try to prosecute a doctor.
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Here's a good job- There's probably a Lobbyist who works for the Florida Medical Association (Or some such thing) who's whole job it is to write legislators in Florida to make sure little lines like that get included...
 
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Thank you. I could not have said it any better.



IrontonBuck said:
If this happened in Florida last spring, before the kid even came to Columbus, how does this make the program out of control? Did Tressel give him a schedule of workouts for the summer, and instructions to commit a sexually oriented offense against a minor?

You guys are just feeding the fire of public opinion. You're not helping by venting your frustration. Shame on you.

The problem is Albert Dukes' problem. No amount of "control" by Ohio State could have kept this from happening.

And, ask yourselves this question: Weren't most of you salivating over Albert Dukes this time last year?
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Perception is reality

Though Tressel and the program are not at fault here.The perception to all the nation is that this program is an OUTLAW program. Living here
in Illinois, after the 2202 NC many ppl congratulated me for having a coach who ran a clean program and a team that played with heart and class. Now all they talk about is MC and the choker himself,RR. They think we are dirty on and off the field. We know this is untrue., but there is almost no defense for a program that makes headlines everyday. Of all the bowl teams we are the only one missing a starting QB due to improper bennies and a WR charged with a sexual crime. These two facts cannot be disputed. What should Tressell do to improve the negative perceptioN?
 
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Onebuckfan said:
Though Tressel and the program are not at fault here.The perception to all the nation is that this program is an OUTLAW program. Living here
in Illinois, after the 2202 NC many ppl congratulated me for having a coach who ran a clean program and a team that played with heart and class. Now all they talk about is MC and the choker himself,RR. They think we are dirty on and off the field. We know this is untrue., but there is almost no defense for a program that makes headlines everyday. Of all the bowl teams we are the only one missing a starting QB due to improper bennies and a WR charged with a sexual crime. These two facts cannot be disputed. What should Tressell do to improve the negative perceptioN?
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We're not the only bowl team missing players...scUM has a DL charged with a sex crime - not to mention the OL that pissed all over the bar in Wisc. - and OK St just had their top CB suspended from the Alamo Bowl. And I imagine there are more that I am unaware of.
 
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