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Wisconsin Badgers (Official Thread)

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I don't think firing Chryst was a good idea, but regardless, LOL @ Sagarin...

College Football 2022 through games of October 2 Sunday
RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | PREDICTOR | GOLDEN_MEAN | RECENT
HOME ADVANTAGE=[ 2.07] [ 2.07] [ 2.07] [ 2.17]
31 Wisconsin A = 78.64 2 3 69.21( 44) 0 1 | 0 1 | 78.81 30 | 79.84 27 | 78.15 38 BIG TEN-WEST
32 UCLA A = 78.36 5 0 58.85( 132) 0 0 | 1 0 | 77.64 35 | 78.65 33 | 78.78 34 PAC-12 SOUTH
33 Washington State A = 78.26 4 1 68.83( 49) 0 0 | 0 1 | 76.40 40 | 76.27 40 | 80.78 25 PAC-12 NORTH
34 Maryland A = 78.22 4 1 68.41( 55) 0 1 | 0 1 | 77.32 37 | 75.58 44 | 80.55 26 BIG TEN-EAST
35 Oregon State A = 78.09 3 2 74.15( 9) 0 2 | 0 2 | 77.61 36 | 77.26 35 | 78.96 32 PAC-12 NORTH
36 Iowa A = 78.09 3 2 69.22( 43) 0 1 | 0 2 | 77.01 38 | 78.23 34 | 78.75 35 BIG TEN-WEST
37 Illinois A = 78.07 4 1 65.66( 81) 0 0 | 0 0 | 77.99 33 | 74.65 48 | 80.45 27 BIG TEN-WEST
38 Purdue A = 77.61 3 2 70.81( 24) 0 0 | 1 1 | 77.78 34 | 76.59 37 | 78.18 37 BIG TEN-WEST
39 Central Florida(UCF) A = 76.59 3 1 61.35( 112) 0 0 | 0 0 | 76.77 39 | 76.55 38 | 76.52 41 AAC
40 Florida State A = 76.45 4 1 69.71( 37) 0 0 | 1 1 | 76.11 42 | 76.11 41 | 76.79 40 ACC-ATLANTIC
 
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It was time. Chryst had some highlights here to be sure (6-1 bowl record, beating Miami in the Orange Bowl, Turnover Chain My Fucking Ass, etc. etc.) but the program has been steadily backsliding for three years. The trademarks of the program over the last 30 years – strong offensive line and running game, disciplined football, etc. – have evaporated. To wit, they had two (2) rushing yards last week against Illinois. Of more concern to me was that the team seemed to take after its coach's personality and there was a startling lack of energy and fire on both sides of the ball. Chryst decided to cast his fate with Graham Mertz, and that just hasn't worked out.

Off the field, it wasn't much better. Chryst was somewhat vocal about not really enjoying the recruiting part of the job (somewhat important) and was not a fan of the NIL stuff as it came down the pike. Under his tenure, the UW Athletic Department also disbanded the Mendota Gridiron Club – a popular boosters club – and stopped holding the annual spring game. Those decisions are tolerable when you are winning, but when things start going south like they have other the last 3 years and you don't have a reservoir of goodwill to fall back on...it gets dicey.

I've seen a lot of allusions made to Nebraska firing Pelini, but with Wisconsin, the Big Ten, and really college football entering a new era, I think it was the only choice. Adding USC and UCLA and possibly disbanding divisions will not make things any easier. You're either all in or you're not.

As far as the future, I could see him taking an OC job somewhere if he wants to stay in coaching but move out of the spotlight a bit. Jim Leonhard now has half a season to prove his mettle as a HC, but my opinion is he'll get the interim tag removed from his title sooner rather than later. If not, the obvious choice is Lance Leipold, who is a Wisconsin native and coached at Division III UW-Whitewater before making the jump to DI.
 
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Bucky32 said:
It was time. Chryst had some highlights here to be sure (6-1 bowl record, beating Miami in the Orange Bowl, Turnover Chain My Fucking Ass, etc. etc.) but the program has been steadily backsliding for three years. The trademarks of the program over the last 30 years – strong offensive line and running game, disciplined football, etc. – have evaporated. To wit, they had two (2) rushing yards last week against Illinois. Of more concern to me was that the team seemed to take after its coach's personality and there was a startling lack of energy and fire on both sides of the ball. Chryst decided to cast his fate with Graham Mertz, and that just hasn't worked out.

Off the field, it wasn't much better. Chryst was somewhat vocal about not really enjoying the recruiting part of the job (somewhat important) and was not a fan of the NIL stuff as it came down the pike. Under his tenure, the UW Athletic Department also disbanded the Mendota Gridiron Club – a popular boosters club – and stopped holding the annual spring game. Those decisions are tolerable when you are winning, but when things start going south like they have other the last 3 years and you don't have a reservoir of goodwill to fall back on...it gets dicey.

I've seen a lot of allusions made to Nebraska firing Pelini, but with Wisconsin, the Big Ten, and really college football entering a new era, I think it was the only choice. Adding USC and UCLA and possibly disbanding divisions will not make things any easier. You're either all in or you're not.

As far as the future, I could see him taking an OC job somewhere if he wants to stay in coaching but move out of the spotlight a bit. Jim Leonhard now has half a season to prove his mettle as a HC, but my opinion is he'll get the interim tag removed from his title sooner rather than later. If not, the obvious choice is Lance Leipold, who is a Wisconsin native and coached at Division III UW-Whitewater before making the jump to DI.
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I support the fan base wanting change, but I just can't see how this deserves an in-season termination at any University, let alone Wisconsin.

Wisconsin Badgers (Big Ten Conference) (2015–present)
2015 Wisconsin 10–3 6–2 T–2nd (West) W Holiday 21 21
2016 Wisconsin 11–3 7–2 1st (West) W Cotton† 9 9
2017 Wisconsin 13–1 9–0 1st (West) W Orange† 6 7
2018 Wisconsin 8–5 5–4 T–2nd (West) W Pinstripe
2019 Wisconsin 10–4 7–2 T–1st (West) L Rose† 13 11
2020 Wisconsin 4–3 3–3 3rd (West) W Duke's Mayo
2021 Wisconsin 9–4 6–3 T–2nd (West) W Las Vegas
2022 Wisconsin 2–3 0–2
Wisconsin: 67–26 43–18
 
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heisman said:
I support the fan base wanting change, but I just can't see how this deserves an in-season termination at any University, let alone Wisconsin.

Wisconsin Badgers (Big Ten Conference) (2015–present)
2015 Wisconsin 10–3 6–2 T–2nd (West) W Holiday 21 21
2016 Wisconsin 11–3 7–2 1st (West) W Cotton† 9 9
2017 Wisconsin 13–1 9–0 1st (West) W Orange† 6 7
2018 Wisconsin 8–5 5–4 T–2nd (West) W Pinstripe
2019 Wisconsin 10–4 7–2 T–1st (West) L Rose† 13 11
2020 Wisconsin 4–3 3–3 3rd (West) W Duke's Mayo
2021 Wisconsin 9–4 6–3 T–2nd (West) W Las Vegas
2022 Wisconsin 2–3 0–2
Wisconsin: 67–26 43–18
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The overall record is going to look fine because it's buoyed by the first few years of his tenure. The fact is that they've inflated their record against a historically terrible division (which bears out in the CCG) and have lost to basically anyone with a pulse over the last 3 years, often times in embarrassing fashion. Here are their wins since 2020:

Illinois
@ Michigan
Minnesota
Wake Forest (bowl game)
Eastern Michigan
@ Illinois
Army
@ #25 Purdue
#9 Iowa
@ Rutgers
Northwestern
Nebraska
Arizona State (bowl game)

And their losses:

@ #19 Northwestern
#12 Indiana
@ #16 Iowa
#19 Penn State
#12 Notre Dame
#14 Michigan
@ Minnesota
Washington State
@ #3 Ohio State
Illinois

2-7 against top 25 teams. 9-8 against the Big Ten. Just not good enough on its own and when compounded with the eye test, basically conclusive.
 
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When I first saw this my thought was WTF, but if they think Leonhard is the guy it probably doesn't hurt to make the move and give him the rest of the season to show what he can do. If they stuck with Chryst, Leonhard would probably be gone after the season. TOSU was kind of in this situation with Meyer and Day, but the handling of the situation was better with Meyer stepping down so Day could take over after the season. Wisconsin is always going to have limitations in recruiting so if their goal is to find a coach that can get them into the National Championship conversation they think too highly of themselves. If Leonhard doesn't work out they could end up in a much worst spot that Chryst.
 
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cincibuck said:
Urban is not going anywhere where he can't control the situation like he could at Ohio State and where he can't recruit like he did at Ohio State. 'Bama, USC, ND, and Michigan are the only places I see him considering.
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I'll have to check my notes, but I don't think his ability to control the situation at Ohio State was quite what he thought it was.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I'll have to check my notes, but I don't think his ability to control the situation at Ohio State was quite what he thought it was.
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I hear you. What I’m thinking is that he got what ever funds he needed from Gene Smith. He had control of the hiring/firing of staff, something ND doesn’t allow their coaches. He didn’t have the media control that Woody was afforded, but that was a different world.
 
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cincibuck said:
I hear you. What I’m thinking is that he got what ever funds he needed from Gene Smith. He had control of the hiring/firing of staff, something ND doesn’t allow their coaches. He didn’t have the media control that Woody was afforded, but that was a different world.
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If Meyer went to ND, they would put his head on Touchdown Jesus. The fact that they backed the Brinks truck up for Charlie Cheeseburger, due to name recognition and one decent year, yet he was really no better than Willingham tells you all you need to know. A 2 loss Urban led ND team would be in the CFP yearly.

And I was joking about Urban being an actual realistic candidate, btw :lol:
 
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