Game Thread Wisconsin at tOSU, Oct 29th, 8 pm ET, ESPN

[cincibuck]

A remarkable play and a Hail Mary that is Braxton's shining moment.

Not to be pissy, but as someone else noted this was not a "Hail Mary" as defined by all receivers running to the end zone and a desperate heave by the QB. This was a play designed to get the buckeyes within field goal range, Braxton could have scrambled and then gone out of bounds, he could have thrown short for the first down. Instead he found his receiver all alone and put the ball right where it had to be.

Hail Mary implies luck and desperation. This was a case where a smart QB kept his options open and his receiver ran to the open spot. Hardly lucky, certainly not desperate.

 

[buckeyes_rock]

Not to be [censored]y, but as someone else noted this was not a "Hail Mary" as defined by all receivers running to the end zone and a desperate heave by the QB. This was a play designed to get the buckeyes within field goal range, Braxton could have scrambled and then gone out of bounds, he could have thrown short for the first down. Instead he found his receiver all alone and put the ball right where it had to be.

Hail Mary implies luck and desperation. This was a case where a smart QB kept his options open and his receiver ran to the open spot. Hardly lucky, certainly not desperate.

Exactly...I had my Spartan friend arguing that we won on a hail mary just like they did. NO SIR...this was an actual pass to a receiver, not a desperation heave.

 

[Jake]

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Great work. Loved the shots of Brax on the winning play.

 

[Jake]

I would love to play you guys twice, but I think Penn State is going to back their way into Indy. Whoever plays them from the Legends will roll them, too.

Penn State will lose their last 3 games.

 

[Bucky32]

Penn State will lose their last 3 games.

This. They've been the beneficiary of a weak Big Ten schedule thus far.

 

[BB73]

Not to be pissy, but as someone else noted this was not a "Hail Mary" as defined by all receivers running to the end zone and a desperate heave by the QB. This was a play designed to get the buckeyes within field goal range, Braxton could have scrambled and then gone out of bounds, he could have thrown short for the first down. Instead he found his receiver all alone and put the ball right where it had to be.

Hail Mary implies luck and desperation. This was a case where a smart QB kept his options open and his receiver ran to the open spot. Hardly lucky, certainly not desperate.

That is now the widely accepted definition of a 'Hail Mary'. Ironically, yesterday's AFLAC trivia question asked about the first time a play was given that name, and it was in the 1975 NFL playoffs when Roger Staubach threw a long pass up for grabs toward Drew Pearson. That was actually against a single Viking DB in coverage, and of course Pearson got away with some offensive pass interference that went uncalled, but the original 'Hail Mary' wasn't into a group of players from both teams, which is what almost all of us expect to be the case when the term is used now.

I agree that it's not accurate to call Braxton's pass last night a 'Hail Mary'.

 

[JXC]

I think it depends almost completely on us. If we beat them we are in because i cant see them going better than 1-1 against Neb and @Wiscy

We have started to play a lot better...and anything is possible. But the only gimmie I see on our schedule is Indiana. Everyone said this year was different, that this year October was more important than November. And of course, as it is every year, we sit here going into November knowing nothing about who is going to win the conference or division.

November in the Big Ten is where it's won, and it's going to be quite a difficult November, as usual.

But awesome thing is that the Buckeyes put themselves in this great position by winning this game! What an amazing game and such an emotional win. I am glad we play Indiana next week, because emotionally we may be a little flat, since we definitely left it all on the field last night.

Awesome defense! Best O-line play in forever! Gutsy performance by a freshman at the end! Go Bucks!!!

 

[JXC]

That is now the widely accepted definition of a 'Hail Mary'. Ironically, yesterday's AFLAC trivia question asked about the first time a play was given that name, and it was in the 1975 NFL playoffs when Roger Staubach threw a long pass up for grabs toward Drew Pearson. That was actually against a single Viking DB in coverage, and of course Pearson got away with some offensive pass interference that went uncalled, but the original 'Hail Mary' wasn't into a group of players from both teams, which is what almost all of us expect to be the case when the term is used now.

I agree that it's not accurate to call Braxton's pass last night a 'Hail Mary'.

Who cares what you call it...IT WAS F*KN AWESOME!!!

 

[Jake]

That is now the widely accepted definition of a 'Hail Mary'. Ironically, yesterday's AFLAC trivia question asked about the first time a play was given that name, and it was in the 1975 NFL playoffs when Roger Staubach threw a long pass up for grabs toward Drew Pearson. That was actually against a single Viking DB in coverage, and of course Pearson got away with some offensive pass interference that went uncalled, but the original 'Hail Mary' wasn't into a group of players from both teams, which is what almost all of us expect to be the case when the term is used now.

Also, back then a pass could not be touched by one offensive player then caught by another one, unless it was touched by the defense in between those touches. The modern "hail mary" play we see every week now wasn't even considered an option back in 1975. That stupid rule was changed a few years later.

 

[DiamondBuck]

I would love to play you guys twice, but I think Penn State is going to back their way into Indy. Whoever plays them from the Legends will roll them, too.

I have my doubts. PSU's five wins have come against 5 of the bottom 6 in the B1G. They have yet to play Nebraska, @Wisky and @tOSU. Good luck winning two or more. Wisky can presumably have sweep Purdue, @Minn, @Ill and then beat PSU in which case they'd have the head-to-head over them. The Buckeyes obviously need to sweep Indiana, @ Purdue, PSU and @UM. On principle, I refuse to accept UM's return to respectability.

 

[Woody1968]

That is now the widely accepted definition of a 'Hail Mary'. Ironically, yesterday's AFLAC trivia question asked about the first time a play was given that name, and it was in the 1975 NFL playoffs when Roger Staubach threw a long pass up for grabs toward Drew Pearson. That was actually against a single Viking DB in coverage, and of course Pearson got away with some offensive pass interference that went uncalled, but the original 'Hail Mary' wasn't into a group of players from both teams, which is what almost all of us expect to be the case when the term is used now.

I agree that it's not accurate to call Braxton's pass last night a 'Hail Mary'.

Furthermore, a true hail mary has to be the last play of the half/game.

 

[jwinslow]

Re-airing tonight:

BTN @ 8 pm ET

ESPNU @ 9:30 pm ET

 

[youra6]

Re-airing tonight:

BTN @ 8 pm ET

ESPNU @ 9:30 pm ET

Dont know if this has been said, but those with certain ISPs can rewatch it anytime on ESPN3.com.

Not sure if the game was blacked out for those in Ohio (I live in WI atm).

 

[tundra1]

Not to be pissy, but as someone else noted this was not a "Hail Mary" as defined by all receivers running to the end zone and a desperate heave by the QB. This was a play designed to get the buckeyes within field goal range, Braxton could have scrambled and then gone out of bounds, he could have thrown short for the first down. Instead he found his receiver all alone and put the ball right where it had to be.

Hail Mary implies luck and desperation. This was a case where a smart QB kept his options open and his receiver ran to the open spot. Hardly lucky, certainly not desperate.

I think I may have been the first to call out that this wasn't a "Hail Mary".

Remember, had Andrew Luck thrown that ball, it would have been a "great, smart, athletic play from a quarterback that displays incredible self awareness, field vision, a big arm, and an underrated ability to scramble out of the pocket and make people miss--one of the best quarterbacks to play college football in the last 2 decades."

When Braxton Miller throws that ball, it's a "Hail Mary."

But hey, if we win, the talking heads can call it whatever they want.

 

[Gatorubet]

I think I may have been the first to call out that this wasn't a "Hail Mary".

Remember, had Andrew Luck thrown that ball, it would have been a "great, smart, athletic play from a quarterback that displays incredible self awareness, field vision, a big arm, and an underrated ability to scramble out of the pocket and make people miss--one of the best quarterbacks to play college football in the last 2 decades."

When Braxton Miller throws that ball, it's a "Hail Mary."

But hey, if we win, the talking heads can call it whatever they want.

One of the guys doing the game immediately pointed out his earlier observation that Miller kept looking down field while running, looking to make a play with his arm while on the run - instead of just running for his life. As soon as the TD happened he gave props to Brax for his field vision while effectively scrambling.

I return you to your regularly scheduled Buckeye paranoia. :p