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Who's Your final four

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Even when tOSU has played poorly, I don't think many teams match up well against us.

In my mind, Florida is the only team that has a match up advantage with their multiple post threats and superior experience. That being said, with significant improvement in Hunter, Oden and the way the team plays with Oden, should be a very different game in the case of a rematch.

The other two losses:

UNC: the first half proved that we match up very very well almost to a man with their perimeter guys. Still the most exciting half (or maybe 30 minutes) of basketball I have seen in a while. The glaring difference was the post game which, with Oden and animproved Hunter, should even up a little.

Wisc: Close, close first game at Wisc. Answers should come next Sunday.

Barring being in the same bracket as Florida, I think tOSU would be the favorite in any other matchup. Scary teams are obviously Kansas, TA&M, Pitt, UNC and every other top 10 or top 15 school out there, but I still can't find a good reason why tOSU can't make the final four this year from a matchup standpoint. Not like last year where you could see that we didn?t match up well against G'town or other long/athletic teams.
 
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BB73;757289; said:
Somebody on one of the ESPN channels last night said that Oregon has trouble guarding the perimeter, while they do a poor job of defending inside. It might have been Bilas, and the way he said it was funny, if you're not an Oregon fan.
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Well, I do agree UO's defense is bad or atleast sub-par but I wonder what Bilas said about it that was funny.
 
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OregonBuckeye;757635; said:
Well, I do agree UO's defense is bad or atleast sub-par but I wonder what Bilas said about it that was funny.
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Usually, a connecting term like "while" would be used in between two somewhat contradictory statements, not two similar statements. That's all.
 
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Let's see...you're a fan of Oregon, the Seahawks, and the Trail Blazers. I'm sure that your sticking up for Oregon and Gonzaga isn't a product of homerism, or anything. :roll2:

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Gonzaga's in. They have some solid wins.
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Check out the newest bracketology (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology). Gonzaga's out, fella. They should've taken care of business at home against Memphis. 19-10 doesn't cut it when you're a mid-major.

OregonBuckeye;756973; said:
I don't think Oregon will go to the Final 4 because they have no depth. They've lost 5 out of their last 6 after starting 19-2 which shows they're wearing down. But "lucky" to go to the sweet sixteen? Now you just sound ignorant.
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I'm the ignorant one? Apparently you don't watch enough college basketball to know how difficult it is to survive the first weekend of the tournament and make it to the Sweet Sixteen. Last year alone, none of the following teams made it to the Sweet Sixteen:

OSU (#2 seed)
Tennessee (#2 seed)
Iowa (#3 seed)
North Carolina (#3 seed)
Illinois (#4 seed)
Kansas (#4 seed)

All of those teams had higher seeds than Oregon will this year. FWIW, Lunardi currently has Oregon projected as a #10 seed (see bracketology link above). Still think I'm the one who "sounds ignorant" for saying that a probable #10 seed will be lucky to make it to the Sweet Sixteen? Didn't think so.
 
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Bucky Katt;757651; said:
Usually, a connecting term like "while" would be used in between two somewhat contradictory statements, not two similar statements. That's all.
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Thanks.

Let's see...you're a fan of Oregon, the Seahawks, and the Trail Blazers. I'm sure that your sticking up for Oregon and Gonzaga isn't a product of homerism, or anything. :roll2:

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Gonzaga's in. They have some solid wins.

Check out the newest bracketology (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology). Gonzaga's out, fella. They should've taken care of business at home against Memphis. 19-10 doesn't cut it when you're a mid-major.

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I don't think Oregon will go to the Final 4 because they have no depth. They've lost 5 out of their last 6 after starting 19-2 which shows they're wearing down. But "lucky" to go to the sweet sixteen? Now you just sound ignorant.

I'm the ignorant one? Apparently you don't watch enough college basketball to know how difficult it is to survive the first weekend of the tournament and make it to the Sweet Sixteen. Last year alone, none of the following teams made it to the Sweet Sixteen:

OSU (#2 seed)
Tennessee (#2 seed)
Iowa (#3 seed)
North Carolina (#3 seed)
Illinois (#4 seed)
Kansas (#4 seed)

All of those teams had higher seeds than Oregon will this year. FWIW, Lunardi currently has Oregon projected as a #10 seed (see bracketology link above). Still think I'm the one who "sounds ignorant" for saying that a probable #10 seed will be lucky to make it to the Sweet Sixteen? Didn't think so.
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And what seed was George Mason? For every example of a high seed ducking out early I could give you an overachiever. You may be right about Gonzaga but please, because one mock bracket doesn't have them in they have no shot? If they win their conference tourney(which they should) I think they'll get in.

Oregon has beaten #12 Georgetown on the road, #9 Washington St. on the road, Stanford at home, and #4 UCLA at home. But yes, they would be "lucky" to go to the Sweet 16. :roll2: You don't think I know it's tough to advance in the NCAA tournament? Saying Oregon would be lucky is just a slap in the face.

Oh, and why would I be a homer for Gonzaga? I don't have any feelings toward them. I think they're in so I must like them, I guess.

And one last thing, maybe I stick up for Oregon because unlike you I've seen nearly every one of their games and just might know a little more about them than you do.
 
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And what seed was George Mason?
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Of course there's examples of upsets every year, but you don't think George Mason considered itself lucky to make it to the Sweet Sixteen last year? I'll bet they did.


You may be right about Gonzaga but please, because one mock bracket doesn't have them in they have no shot? If they win their conference tourney(which they should) I think they'll get in.
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Boy, you're really going out on a limb with that one, considering the fact that if Gonzaga wins its conference tourney, it gets an automatic bid. I guess you really do know a lot about college basketball. :roll1:

Oregon has beaten #12 Georgetown on the road, #9 Washington St. on the road, Stanford at home, and #4 UCLA at home. But yes, they would be "lucky" to go to the Sweet 16. :roll2: You don't think I know it's tough to advance in the NCAA tournament? Saying Oregon would be lucky is just a slap in the face.
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Can Oregon make it to the Sweet Sixteen? Yes, of course, b/c upsets do happen, and they've pulled some off earlier this season, as you noted. But I stand by my contention--any team that is projected to be a #10 seed would be lucky to win its first two games of the NCAA tournament. I doubt I'm in the minority when I say this, and if you take off your yellow and green goggles for a second, you'd realize that I'm correct.
 
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Honestly I don't think Oregonbuck is saying anything that no one would say about Zaga. I would also say Zaga is in, maybe not so much as an at-large now, but they are basically a lock to win their tourney, so to say he thinks they are in, is not like he is saying something like PSU is going to make the tourney...

As far as Oregon, They are a very solid team, have their best player suspended for 2 of their games due to a punch he threw last year. They may not matchup great with some teams, but they have some very solid wins, and don't think it would be that big of a suprise if they make it to the sweet 16, no matter what their seed is...
 
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crazybuckfan40;758821; said:
I would also say Zaga is in, maybe not so much as an at-large now, but they are basically a lock to win their tourney
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They're a lock? That's too strong, considering the facts that they're a game behind Santa Clara and the two have split the two games they've played this season. Could I see Gonzaga winning their conference tourney? Sure. Are they a "basically a lock?" Far from it.
 
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buckeyeboy;758802; said:
Of course there's examples of upsets every year, but you don't think George Mason considered itself lucky to make it to the Sweet Sixteen last year? I'll bet they did.




Boy, you're really going out on a limb with that one, considering the fact that if Gonzaga wins its conference tourney, it gets an automatic bid. I guess you really do know a lot about college basketball. :roll1:



Can Oregon make it to the Sweet Sixteen? Yes, of course, b/c upsets do happen, and they've pulled some off earlier this season, as you noted. But I stand by my contention--any team that is projected to be a #10 seed would be lucky to win its first two games of the NCAA tournament. I doubt I'm in the minority when I say this, and if you take off your yellow and green goggles for a second, you'd realize that I'm correct.
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If Oregon is a 10 seed then yes, the term "lucky" is more suitable. I just don't think they'll go that low. They'll get credit for playing in the deepest conference in the country.

I had a bit of a brain fart on the "if Gonzaga wins the conference tournament, I think they'll get in". I forgot it would be an automatic bid. But that helps my point. They'll be the heavy favorite to win the tourney so they won't need to rely on an at-large bid.

And please, stop using the "homer" excuse. I like the Oregon Ducks. I can still be fair. Everything pro-Oregon isn't just some homer statement.
 
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Jaxbuck;753510; said:
Lets say we beat them regular season and then we meet in B10 champ game. As someone pointed out earlier the outcome is meaningless because the brackets are made before the game is over.
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Yertle;756613; said:
Really? How do they pick brackets before the game is over? What if PSU was playing Ohio State in the Big 10 Champ game, and Penn State won? Shouldn't a loss to the worst Big 10 team come into play in the decision, and I'm sure PSU wasn't in a bracket before the game was played. I honestly don't know when these decisions are made, but I know it's not announced until all of the games are done.
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I agree with Yertle, I always thought the selection committee basically made up contingency brackets. Plan A bracket if team A wins and plan B bracket if team B wins, etc. Does anyone really know?
 
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