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Who's Your final four

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Bernini;765288; said:
Wisconsin- 1 point/free throw maybe away from arguably what would have been the most impressive win in college basketball this season, a win @ OSU. Experience, talent, and defense; the typical formula for the final four.

UCLA- experience, talent, and defense. They're returning mostly the same team that made it last year, other than Farmar. They've been very good on the road against good teams this year.

TAMU- They can play both fast and slow. They have great size. Law is a tough floor general. Won at Kansas.

Florida- they are the best team in the country by far when they want to be. I think they are just cruising ala the Pistons in the regular season in the NBA a couple years ago.

sleeper: Wazzou- play very strong defense, very consistent, aren't afraid on the road

Could surprise: Oregon (explosive and streaky), Maryland (tremendous passing team), Winthrop (barely lost to great teams), Vandy (very smart and disciplined)

Ripe for upset: Kansas (erratic, Oral Roberts and Depaul), UNC (ridiculously young and inexperienced), Memphis (product of a mid major conference in large part, young and undisciplined), Georgetown (no real go to guy and point guard play)
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You just following the first rule of not having tOSU in your post, or do you not find us as a threat?

Either way I agree with everything else that you posted other than GTown taking an early exit...
 
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Yeah, I was just following the rule that OSU could not be involved. That said, I think lack of experience will hurt. It's not a hard line rule that you can't go far in the tourney without experience, see: Syracuse with Anthony, but with that said, it definitely helps. I wouldn't put OSU in my final four group, nor would I put them in my ripe for an upset group. They always beat the teams they should, but struggled against the elite. They were dependent upon our Kam Taylor to miss free throws in order to have a chance to win that one in regulation, at home. Then at Wisconsin, that one wasn't near as close as the score indicated of course. The Florida game wasn't close. It's tough to gauge the UNC game without Oden. I would put OSU in a sort of similar boat as UNC, with lack of experience as a factor, but Oden is better than any freshman on UNC, Conley is more polished, and then Butler and Lewis give them more experience; so I like their chances a little more. I would say elite eight if I was a betting man, with a very low possibility of an early upset, possible final four, possible anything.

As far as Butch being injured majorly hurting Wisconsin's chances, the Badgers never got any credit for having Butch while he was healthy, so why discredit because he's injured? I don't want to pee on him while he is down like that a-hole Doyle, but I've never been a big Butch fan. That's a consistent opinion. I've always preferred bigs like Stiemsma and Landry over him. He hurts our depth and makes us rely on a liability like Chappell, more than anything. It's a minor blow, definitely not a major blow. We're not going out on the first weekend, so kill that noise.
 
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Bernini;765362; said:
As far as Butch being injured majorly hurting Wisconsin's chances, the Badgers never got any credit for having Butch while he was healthy, so why discredit because he's injured? I don't want to pee on him while he is down like that a-hole Doyle, but I've never been a big Butch fan. That's a consistent opinion. I've always preferred bigs like Stiemsma and Landry over him. He hurts our depth and makes us rely on a liability like Chappell, more than anything. It's a minor blow, definitely not a major blow. We're not going out on the first weekend, so kill that noise.
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Yeah we weren't going out on the first weekend last year either...:roll1: I think losing Butch hurts your depth and rebounding obviously. Tucker will have to be unreal in the tournament for you guys to get to the final 4 IMO. Digger doesn't think any B10 team makes it through the first weekend, but he is a dope. UW runs into a really athletic fast paced team or a team with skilled bigs they could be in trouble.
 
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The Man;765370; said:
Yeah we weren't going out on the first weekend last year either...:roll1: I think losing Butch hurts your depth and rebounding obviously. Tucker will have to be unreal in the tournament for you guys to get to the final 4 IMO. Digger doesn't think any B10 team makes it through the first weekend, but he is a dope. UW runs into a really athletic fast paced team or a team with skilled bigs they could be in trouble.
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That OSU team wasn't nearly as good as this Wisconsin team. And Wisconsin hasn't had trouble with the type of teams this year that you described. Fast paced team, whose really athletic, with skilled bigs, and they are in trouble? That describes FSU perfectly and they destroyed FSU. That certainly wasn't because of Butch. Wisconsin has pretty much dominated opposing big men defensively this year, and that wasn't because of Butch, since he's not a good defender. Look at the other teams they lost to: Missouri St., Indiana, and Michigan State. Missouri St. and Indiana are small teams. And neither play fast. Michigan State has nice size, but certainly aren't athletic, and play pretty slow. Plus, they struggled against Winthrop, because Winthrop shot ridiculously well from the outside. Wisconsin has been able to control the tempo, against fast, and athletic teams. OSU's size didn't really cause Wisconsin much problem. Like I said, Wisconsin prevailing in that game came down to making free throws or not, and that was against the #1 team on the road. That's one of their weaknesses. But who can say predict whether they'll make them or not in a given game, and the opposing team would have to play them very close for it to even be a factor. Wisconsin's weaknesses have been 3 pt shooting and 3 pt D. If they face a team like that, it would be a bad matchup. But a team would have to play exceptionally well, and Wisconsin would have to play exceptionally poorly, for them to be knocked out early. Anybody can be knocked out early hypothetically.
 
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Bernini;765410; said:
That OSU team wasn't nearly as good as this Wisconsin team. And Wisconsin hasn't had trouble with the type of teams this year that you described. Fast paced team, whose really athletic, with skilled bigs, and they are in trouble? That describes FSU perfectly and they destroyed FSU.
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Newsflash: FSU isn't very good.
 
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Not counting the Buckeyes as per the thread theme.
The best playing teams right now are Kansas, A and M, Georgetown, Memphis, and Wisc.
Ucla lost again yesterday. It is hard not to think UNC and Fla will be there. But Right now Fla D really sucks.
 
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Bernini;765362; said:
As far as Butch being injured majorly hurting Wisconsin's chances, the Badgers never got any credit for having Butch while he was healthy, so why discredit because he's injured? I don't want to pee on him while he is down like that a-hole Doyle, but I've never been a big Butch fan. That's a consistent opinion. I've always preferred bigs like Stiemsma and Landry over him. He hurts our depth and makes us rely on a liability like Chappell, more than anything. It's a minor blow, definitely not a major blow. We're not going out on the first weekend, so kill that noise.
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you may not even make it to the weekend....TAM-CC - 19 UW - 4. Panic sets in.......
 
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