• Follow us on Twitter @buckeyeplanet and @bp_recruiting, like us on Facebook! Enjoy a post or article, recommend it to others! BP is only as strong as its community, and we only promote by word of mouth, so share away!
  • Consider registering! Fewer and higher quality ads, no emails you don't want, access to all the forums, download game torrents, private messages, polls, Sportsbook, etc. Even if you just want to lurk, there are a lot of good reasons to register!

Western Conf Final: Wings-Hawks

Jump to latest Follow Reply
Sort by date Sort by votes
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KJm-qcnnC0]YouTube - Kronwall Hits Havlat - Wings at Blackhawks Game 3 - May 22 09[/ame]

336-ice-cube-chris-tucker-damn.gif
 
Upvote 0
By the way, this Hawks fan was surprised they called the major when Havlat got blasted. That should have been no penalty - it was obvious from the get-go that Havlat was looking down and that it was a legitimate hit.

Hawks have a chance to make it a series with a win on Sunday.
 
Upvote 0
LOL Wings fans on here sound worse than the Flames fans we had on the Blackhawks boards. Everything is against you we know, yet you somehow still manage. :tibor:

Obviously, Kronwall doesn't deserve a suspension for that hit. Clean hit, but nothing really came of it except missing one of your top 4 defensemen.

The Hawks consistently beat the trap in the first two rounds of the playoffs, what the HELL makes them think a trap could work against a team so similar to them? Skilled teams know how to beat a neutral zone trap. Skate at the forechecker and make him commit one way or the other, then catch the opponents flat footed in the neutral zone and beat them to the dump. No reason not to keep an aggressive forecheck on. Though I'd say the game turned more because the Hawks lost their best forward than playing a trap.

Doesn't there have to be something serious wrong with Dats if he's missing a game at this point? I heard "game time decision" was window dressing and there was no chance he was going to play in today's game since late yesterday. If he's not back on Sunday, Wings fans, I wouldn't expect him back at all. Marty said via twitter he's ok, but I still don't expect to see him on the ice.

Side note: Officiating in the NHL is poor, but it's nowhere NEAR NBA officiating. There are probably 50 travels a night in an NBA game. If you head fake, a defender jumps straight up in the air, and you jump into him, it is NOT a foul on the defender. The offensive player is initiating contact and the defender has a right to his space, even if he is moving. Rajon Rondo had like 6 points worth of flagrant fouls in the Bulls series and got 1 point worth called and that was ONE series. NHL is the fastest game in the world. I agree that the NHL has some offciating problems but seriously "the refs" is a pretty tired excuse.

Also--I do not think Bulin was pulled but hurt and that's the reason Corey Crawford was backing up Huet going into the 3rd period, not Khabibulin. As a 'Hawk fan I'd definitely like to see Huet play, Nik's not been a strong point for this team so far.
 
Upvote 0
Um from I heard Quinville was laughing when he said lower body injury so it wasn't hurt. It could of very well been diarrhea because he was sick though...

Yeah he likely has a concussion and will be out at least sunday for precautionary measures. Missing a top 4 defensemen against a team as offensively minded as the hawks is pretty big. And I'm not so sure about Huet he looked good in there but he didn't face near the quality of shots we got in on Bulin so I'm not sureif he was really an improvement. I'm surprised the Red Wings didn't keep the pressure on and go for the jugglar as soon as they knew a new goalie was in the game though. They kind of sat back most of the first few minutes and came in little rushes throughout the period but no real sustained threat.
 
Upvote 0
Ya, if the Hawks poured in 2 goals on that 5 min penalty w/o one of their top 4 defensemen and salted the game away it might have been different, but how long did it take for the Hawks to get their next goal? Ok, guys are pulling extra shifts and blah blah but the difference was marginal that night, at best. I'd have certainly traded you Kronwall for Havlat. Hell, at this point I feel like Havlat for Datsyuk is pretty close to a wash. That's how good Martin Havlat's been playing. We'll see if he plays on Sunday, but I'd be surprised to see either him or Datsyuk.

The only thing I didn't like about the hit was he's either off his feet when he makes contact or is about to be. Definitely NOT supposed to do that. That's where it could have been roughing, but definitely not interference. Certainly not a major for roughing and about the worst ejection ever.

I don't think Huet looked great either, but no one needs to be great to outplay Bulin so far this playoffs. Huet looked good against the Wings at the end of the regular season and Bulin's sv% isn't over .900 in the playoffs. A change would be welcome at this point imo.
 
Upvote 0
souL;1471255; said:
Ya, if the Hawks poured in 2 goals on that 5 min penalty w/o one of their top 4 defensemen and salted the game away it might have been different, but how long did it take for the Hawks to get their next goal? Ok, guys are pulling extra shifts and blah blah but the difference was marginal that night, at best. I'd have certainly traded you Kronwall for Havlat. Hell, at this point I feel like Havlat for Datsyuk is pretty close to a wash. That's how good Martin Havlat's been playing. We'll see if he plays on Sunday, but I'd be surprised to see either him or Datsyuk.
Click to expand...

Datsyuk missing games means a broken bone. There's no way he's missing for a bruise.

The only thing I didn't like about the hit was he's either off his feet when he makes contact or is about to be. Definitely NOT supposed to do that. That's where it could have been roughing, but definitely not interference. Certainly not a major for roughing and about the worst ejection ever.
Click to expand...

You need to check up on what roughing is. When you get off of your skates for a hit, that's CHARGING and that is certainly NOT what Kronwall did.

I don't think Huet looked great either, but no one needs to be great to outplay Bulin so far this playoffs. Huet looked good against the Wings at the end of the regular season and Bulin's sv% isn't over .900 in the playoffs. A change would be welcome at this point imo.
Click to expand...

Stick with Bulin. The Wings will destroy Huet due to the rebounds he gives up. Jose Theodore is essentially the left-handed version of Huet and the Wings nearly ended his career until the Caps came by and signed him out of the blue.
 
Upvote 0
Moving onto more important and pertinent things....

Hard feelings linger after Kronwall hit on Havlat

CHICAGO -- Brian Campbell is none too pleased with Niklas Kronwall.

Less than 24 hours after the Chicago Blackhawks saved their season with a 4-3 overtime win in Game 3 of the Western Conference Finals at the United Center, the Blackhawks' defenseman fired some verbal jabs at Kronwall after the latter left Martin Havlat briefly unconscious on a controversial hit in the first period.

"I thought it was gutless all around," said Campbell, who is part of the NHL competition committee. "I thought he jumped. Marty didn't have the puck. His forearm came up high. He's done it hundreds of time in the League, and it seems like nothing ever happens. He could have easily come in and used his shoulder and hit him with the side, and it would have been fine. But instead he comes up and explodes with his fist and his forearms and jumps. I just don't understand it. We've talked about it, and eventually we've got to clamp down. These guys got to pay for it -- guys that are taking shots to the head. It's unacceptable and it's not like it's the first time it's happened with that guy. There's no need for it in this game."

Kronwall avoided returning fire. Instead, the 28-year-old defenseman was apologetic and hopeful that Havlat will be able to play Sunday. Havlat, who leads Chicago in postseason scoring with 15 points (5 goals, 10 assists), did not skate with the Blackhawks Saturday afternoon.

"It's unfortunate that he got hurt ? it was scary to see him down like that," Kronwall said. "But the puck went off the wall and he went to pick it up. I stepped in and he never saw me coming, I guess. The puck was right there.

"He never saw me coming, so I think I would have felt the same way if somebody did that to one of my players. It's unfortunate that he got hurt. You never try to hurt anyone when you're out there. You just try to make a hit."

As for Campbell's remarks about Kronwall's "reputation", the defenseman opted to play defense.

"Everyone has the right to their own opinion," Kronwall said. "I think people that know me know that I never try to hurt anyone. It's unfortunate."

Campbell was asked if Kronwall should watch his back in Game 4.

"I don't know," he said. "I'm not sure what will happen with him, but I'm sure there won't be one check not finished on him. He could be the greatest guy in the world off the ice, but every time he hits, he jumps in the air."

Chicago coach Joel Quenneville wouldn't commit to a Havlat return in Game 4, but the Blackhawks are hopeful they'll have their leading scorer back. If Havlat can't play, Colin Fraser would be inserted into the lineup.

"I thought Marty really looked good today," Quenneville said. "Hopefully he progresses today in the same fashion for tomorrow. There's a chance he could play."

As for the hit, Quenneville's opinion didn't change after watching replays.

"It's a dangerous hit," he said. "He didn't touch the puck. The guy left his feet. It was a tough hit."

Detroit coach Mike Babcock's opinion didn't change, either.
Click to expand...

NHL.com - Conference Finals: Detroit vs. Chicago: Hard feelings linger after Kronwall hit on Havlat - 05/23/2009
 
Upvote 0
You're smoking crack if you think Huet's anywhere near as bad as Theodore. First of all Huet stole his job because he was just better back in '05-'06. Huet's numbers are way better than Theodore's all around. For example shutouts are 28-20 in favor of Theodore in spite of 270 more starts for Theodore.

Huet's allowed 1 goal or less 14 times this year--he's definitely been the more hot/cold goaltender than Bulin. He absolutely carried this team when Bulin was on the IR the first time and he's got decent career playoff numbers. Jose Theodore he is not.
 
Upvote 0
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top