West Virginia 66, Connecticut 21 (final)

[OCBucksFan]

I didn't go off about OSU's SoS, I merely pointed out that WVU's SoS this year is better than OSU's. I'm not saying that the Big East is a powerhouse, and I certainly don't think the Big Ten is a powerhouse.

However, Sagarin has the Big East ranked above the Big Ten. Syracuse and Pitt? How about Minnesota and Northwestern? Every conference has its own bottom feeders.

Exactly, we had an off scheduling year, whether you realize this or not we just did back-to-back with Texas, this year was sort of off, I don't think Washington was expected to be this bad, and next year we start a back-to-back series with USC. So it's a down year, the same argument was used against Florida last year because they had a cake-walk out of conference schedule. That Northwestern team is still 6-6 and eligible for a bowl. Call it what you want, but the Big 10 does have 10 bowl eligible teams this year, not bad eh?

I honestly wouldn't know, I don't spend time on any WV-specific forums... I do, however, read the ESPN and SI ones.

I have never seen the SI forums, but the ESPiN ones are frickin' horrible, as best I can tell they collected all the trolls of the world and put them in one place. BP isn't really a chest-thumping trash talking collection of fans, if you notice our recruiting forums and some of the other discussions you'll find there's a lot of good, actual information, here, and it's not all "BUCKEYES RULE!"

Granted, it'll all work itself out one way or the other if WVU and OSU meet up in New Orleans.

At this point, that's the goal, and hey, if WVU wins the Big East will get tons of respect, but over the years the Big East has seemed to choke at the end? Rutgers, Louisville, and WVU a few years ago, were really hyped and at the end fell apart, so forgive me for being skeptical, if they prove me wrong I will be the first to admit it.

 

[HoltWVU75]

acrolite....dont argue logic on here.....

 

[sandgk]

I didn't misconstrue anything.

Bullshit - and that is putting it mildly - lie is accurate.

You were stating that my opinion didn't mean squat... I was just pointing out that neither does yours.

It wasn't my opinion on these matters about SOS or other side issues to support your agenda that you were initially attacking - or have you completely forgotten the past couple of hours?

Why don't you show me where I attacked someone. Or, for that matter, where I played verbal sleight of hand...?

I already did that.

I didn't.

Bullshit.

All I'm doing is pointing out how ridiculous some of the posts around here are.

You summed up your entire intent with that one sentence.

I'm getting plenty of negative rep, for it too...

Not surprising really.

regardless of the fact that I haven't attacked anyone.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that you played no part in making a bad first impression on BP.

Is it common for folks to get negative rep just for expressing a viewpoint that doesn't mesh with the "OSU is teh Best!!1!" mindset around here?

It would be quite common for someone to get negative rep for having a "OSU is teh Best!!1!" mindset. Much more common in truth than someone coming in here and stating their case without assuming that there is a mindset of "OSU is teh Best!!1!" with which they have to blend or contend.

Granted, that's pretty much in line with what I expected.

Reference above - you expected that result, you played for that result. Even among reasonable fans it is likely that a posture light on detail, but heavy on posture, will elicit a negative response. Tack on your well detailed trail of misconstrual and the rest is history.

I imagine a ban will come next, even though I've done nothing to warrant it.

You probably won't be the worst 'Eer fan in the next couple of weeks - but you are certainly the worst attempt at Internet victim thus far.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

I dont think we ran the score up....we had our 4th string RB in there, hell, even the backup kicker....all we did was run the ball (which we always do actually)...

...

But you did score more than half your points after the mid-way point in the 3rd quarter.

If you didn't run it up, then UConn quit.

Nevertheless, anytime you score that many points on ANYONE; your offense is pretty good. WVU's offense is better than pretty good.

I just have to wonder how it would look against a good defense. USF's defense is actually not that different from OSU's, killer DE, Killer corners, and good LB play. If our linebackers play to their potential, they are considerably better than USFs; and OSU's D has much better depth all over the field than USF.

Granted, I would expect the Mountaineer's to play better than they did in Tampa. I would expect them to score some points.

But I really have to wonder if it will be enough to keep up with Beanie and the OL, who will be facing your defense, not ours.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

acrolite....dont argue logic on here.....

No, please do.

We certainly haven't seen any from this guy.

 

[acrolite]

That Northwestern team is still 6-6 and eligible for a bowl. Call it what you want, but the Big 10 does have 10 bowl eligible teams this year, not bad eh?

Well, I see it the other way. If a conference has ten bowl eligible teams, it looks like a bunch of mediocre teams beating up on each other. I didn't buy the "This conference is so tough, cause all the teams beat each other" theory with the SEC and I don't buy it with the Big Ten.

I have never seen the SI forums, but the ESPiN ones are frickin' horrible, as best I can tell they collected all the trolls of the world and put them in one place. BP isn't really a chest-thumping trash talking collection of fans, if you notice our recruiting forums and some of the other discussions you'll find there's a lot of good, actual information, here, and it's not all "BUCKEYES RULE!"

I agree with the comments about the ESPN forums... but it's fun to see how insane some folks are. It's always worth stopping in, as long as you're winning.

At this point, that's the goal, and hey, if WVU wins the Big East will get tons of respect, but over the years the Big East has seemed to choke at the end? Rutgers, Louisville, and WVU a few years ago, were really hyped and at the end fell apart, so forgive me for being skeptical, if they prove me wrong I will be the first to admit it.

I'm not sure what you mean about Rutgers, UofL and WVU falling apart. The Cards have been horrible this year, but over the last few years I think the Big East has done pretty well for itself, especially in bowl games.

 

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm not sure what you mean about Rutgers, UofL and WVU falling apart. The Cards have been horrible this year, but over the last few years I think the Big East has done pretty well for itself, especially in bowl games.

Against some pretty paltry competition... let's take a look at the "powers" that WVU faces in the big east:

Louisville: 2007 W W.Forest, 2006 L VTech, 2005 -none-, 2004 W Boise St, 2003 L MiamiOH, 2002 L Marshall

Cincinnati: 2007 W West Mich, 2006 -none-, 2005 -none-, 2004 W Marshall, 2003 -none-, 2002 L N Texas, 2001 L Toledo, 2000 L Marshall

Rutgers: 2006 W Kansas State (7-6), 2005 L Kansas St, 2004-1979 -none-

No offense, but I do not see an impressive win in that entire lineup. 06 VTech would have fit the bill, the rest are mild wins.

 

[acrolite]

Bullshit - and that is putting it mildly - lie is accurate.

Now that is bullshit. You still haven't shown where I misconstrued something or attacked someone, so I'm sure you won't show me where I lied, either.

It wasn't my opinion on these matters about SOS or other side issues to support your agenda that you were initially attacking - or have you completely forgotten the past couple of hours?

Again, no one was attacked. It's apparently you that doesn't remember the past couple of hours. Go back to where you stated "your opinion of how optimistic or egotistical those posters allegedly are doesn't mean squat" and you'll see what I was referring to.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that you played no part in making a bad first impression on BP.

Bad first impression? Sure, if stating the obvious is a way of making a bad first impression, ok.

All I did was point out that folks are bashing WVU fans for doing the exact same thing that is going on on this forum. No more, no less. Now, if you choose to be so completely and utterly upset that I would dare to do such a thing, so be it.

It would be quite common for someone to get negative rep for having a "OSU is teh Best!!1!" mindset.

Bullshit. That's obviously not the case... just look around you.

Reference above - you expected that result, you played for that result. Even among reasonable fans it is likely that a posture light on detail, but heavy on posture, will elicit a negative response. Tack on your well detailed trail of misconstrual and the rest is history.

Well detailed, huh? Just keep believing that if it gives you motivation to reply to me.

 

[daveeb]

I personally believe the Big Ten is stronger than the Big East overall.

If you take 8 teams from the Big Ten, and 8 teams from the Big East (All they have), the 8 teams in the Big Ten would win more games than the 8 teams in the Big East. In my opinion, thinking of these matchups...

Ohio State 11-1................................WVU 10-1
Illinois 9-3........................................Connecticut 9-3
Wisconsin 9-3...................................South Florida 9-3
Michigan 8-4.....................................Cincinnati 9-3
Penn State 8-4..................................Rutgers 7-4
Michigan State 7-5.............................Louisville 5-6
Indiana 4-7.......................................Pittsburgh 4-7
Purdue 7-5........................................Syracuse 2-10

Winning percentage B10: 68.75%
Winning percentage BE: 59.78%

Ignore the Ohio State - WVU matchup. Too many arguments. Needs to be settled on football field.

Connecticut gave up 66 points to WVU and had a cupcake OOC schedule, far beyond anything WVU or tOSU touched. Illinois trounces them.

Wisconsin vs. South Florida is an interesting matchup. Depends on where it is played. I think Wisconsin has advantage due to depth at almost every position. But, Levitt would almost certainly outcoach Bielema.

Michigan is just a straight up tougher and meaner team than Cincinnati when healthy.

Penn State runs over Rutgers. More depth at every position. Better defense.

Michigan State can make a stop. Louisville cannot.

Indiana is a solid team, with a great QB in Kellen Lewis. Indiana rolls over Pitt.

Purdue puts up 60 on Syracuse.

Our 9th and 10th place teams (Not listed, Northwestern and Iowa) have higher winning percentages than Louisville. Minnesota is pathetic, but so is Syracuse.

Now, let us think about head to head Big East vs. Big Ten...

Illinois over Syracuse
Iowa over Syracuse
Michigan State over Pitt

That is 3-0 vs. Big East. Granted, it was against the bottom feeders.

I personally believe that the Big East is a total and complete joke, aside from West Virginia. South Florida has been overrated since the Auburn win, and West Virginia seemed kind of asleep when they played them this year. Big Ten is a better conference than the Big East because they just straight up have more depth, better recruiting, better coaching, and better teams top to bottom.

- Defenses are selling out to stop him, leaving White and the others free.

I think that is the big one personally. It has been noticeable, especially in the Maryland game.

 

[acrolite]

Against some pretty paltry competition... let's take a look at the "powers" that WVU faces in the big east:

Louisville: 2007 W W.Forest, 2006 L VTech, 2005 -none-, 2004 W Boise St, 2003 L MiamiOH, 2002 L Marshall

Cincinnati: 2007 W West Mich, 2006 -none-, 2005 -none-, 2004 W Marshall, 2003 -none-, 2002 L N Texas, 2001 L Toledo, 2000 L Marshall

Rutgers: 2006 W Kansas State (7-6), 2005 L Kansas St, 2004-1979 -none-

No offense, but I do not see an impressive win in that entire lineup. 06 VTech would have fit the bill, the rest are mild wins.

Would you like to perform that same analysis on Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin?

 

[Conan O'Brien]

acrolite....dont argue logic on here.....

Ridiculous. We've got years of history with outsiders. Those who are capable of actual debate & backing up their opinions with facts/reason are welcome here. Those who are not are dismissed, either literally or socially. Read the texas game threads if you need evidence of both types.

Showing up on any board doing nothing but crying about homerism is asking for a juvenile catfight. I've seen little to suggest he's here for useful discussion. I'd love to be wrong, many here have had rough starts, but shaped up and been quality contributors (*cough* bkb *cough).

 

[Conan O'Brien]

Would you like to perform that same analysis on Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin?

Funny, I thought Wisconsin & Penn State won quality 1/1 bowls last year

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

I don't contribute... it's all my other personalities.. :p

 

[daveeb]

Would you like to perform that same analysis on Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin?

Michigan - Gets to BCS bowls, and then losses to teams of destiny a la USC and Texas.

Illinois - Try Penn State instead, who is on 2 game January win streak. Illinois just arrived.

Wisconsin - 2 game January 1st win streak.

 

[Conan O'Brien]

acrolite, do you have any purpose here other than to whine about OSU homerism, OSU's SOS, and about your role as a victim? Perhaps to talk football rather than police our conduct on OUR board? You know, talk about matchups, weaknesses, tendencies, etc?

I've asked this many times, but have yet to see a reply. You can keep patting yourself on the back for pointing out the obvious, but all you're doing is further entrenching your reputation in a self-made box.

Drop the victim & self-righteous routine, and talk some actual football... or keep polluting the board. It's your choice.