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In my opinion, the Big East is pathetic. UConn has some nice players, but too few and no depth, give them time. USF is about the same, some very good players but not enough of them to be considered elite. Louisville really misses Petrino and cannot stop anybody. Rutgers is building, but is only a few years away from pathetic themselves, they have a ways to go. Syracuse and Pitt are awful, don't know what happened to the Cuse, but Pitt's coach is awful.
That said, WVU seems to be very, very good. Excellent speed (at least on O) and good depth. I'm not sold on the speed of their defense or their scheme. If White has a good game passing then they are really tough (can we say Illinois) but against a good defense he will have to throw well for WVU to win. Not sure he can (consistently) and if not a balanced offense (like tOSU's, USC's or even LSU's) will outscore the Eers.
Sorry to interrupt the squabble with my thoughts from a football perspective
That said, WVU seems to be very, very good. Excellent speed (at least on O) and good depth. I'm not sold on the speed of their defense or their scheme. If White has a good game passing then they are really tough (can we say Illinois) but against a good defense he will have to throw well for WVU to win. Not sure he can (consistently) and if not a balanced offense (like tOSU's, USC's or even LSU's) will outscore the Eers.
Sorry to interrupt the squabble with my thoughts from a football perspective
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Truth is, Football is about match-ups, and most of this comparative crap we've been yick-yacking about misses the point. I suppose in terms of conference superiority, its a fair enough analysis... but in any head to head tilt, it's much more important to think about match-ups.
WVU is similar to Illinois, except that they're (That is, WVU) more experienced. If Pat White struggles, WVU struggles. Thus, containing him would be key. I think the key to stopping White is to shut down his options. That is, take Darius Reynaud out of the game (Read: Malcom Jenkins). White is still shifty enough to make plays, but if he can't throw it, it makes the job easier.
Slaton can run, even if this year his numbers are down. But, unless he's able to get outside, I like OSU's LBs in that matchup. They use their FB effectively, and all in all, I'd be surprised if OSU shut em down. I doubt they would.
Turning to the other side, however, Ohio State would be able to move the ball against the 3-3-5. Beanie, Beanie and more Beanie. This, of course, has two purposes. Wells should find the running easier against WVU's scheme plus running the ball keeps White off the field. I guess what I'd say is, if OSU is built to stop the "traditional" type Os, then WVU is built to slow down gimmicks (since you get more of those type Os in the BE). OSU doesn't run a gimmick.
I don't know.. maybe we'll not even get the chance to see it, but I like OSU's chances to stop WVU more than WVU stopping the Bucks. But, of course, I also didn't think Illinois would get it done, so....
WVU is similar to Illinois, except that they're (That is, WVU) more experienced. If Pat White struggles, WVU struggles. Thus, containing him would be key. I think the key to stopping White is to shut down his options. That is, take Darius Reynaud out of the game (Read: Malcom Jenkins). White is still shifty enough to make plays, but if he can't throw it, it makes the job easier.
Slaton can run, even if this year his numbers are down. But, unless he's able to get outside, I like OSU's LBs in that matchup. They use their FB effectively, and all in all, I'd be surprised if OSU shut em down. I doubt they would.
Turning to the other side, however, Ohio State would be able to move the ball against the 3-3-5. Beanie, Beanie and more Beanie. This, of course, has two purposes. Wells should find the running easier against WVU's scheme plus running the ball keeps White off the field. I guess what I'd say is, if OSU is built to stop the "traditional" type Os, then WVU is built to slow down gimmicks (since you get more of those type Os in the BE). OSU doesn't run a gimmick.
I don't know.. maybe we'll not even get the chance to see it, but I like OSU's chances to stop WVU more than WVU stopping the Bucks. But, of course, I also didn't think Illinois would get it done, so....
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I agree, BKB, I think we'd slow them more than they'd slow us, and WVU would have a hard time playing from behind. (hope we get the chance to see)
I think these gimmick offenses are nice, but most teams who are in the title hunt year in and year out (USC, tOSU, OK, and gasp Miami, FSU, and Mich) have balanced attacks. That is not to say that some spread is bad, but most coaches want multiple choices from multiple formations to keep the opponent guessing. It seems to me that these gimmick offenses are just gambles to make up for somwhat less talent.
I think these gimmick offenses are nice, but most teams who are in the title hunt year in and year out (USC, tOSU, OK, and gasp Miami, FSU, and Mich) have balanced attacks. That is not to say that some spread is bad, but most coaches want multiple choices from multiple formations to keep the opponent guessing. It seems to me that these gimmick offenses are just gambles to make up for somwhat less talent.
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