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Vince Young (unemployed)

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Dryden said:
The problem for Troy reaching these gaudy numbers will be (1) the Tressel offense and (2) the Big-10 conference schedule. No matter how explosive and productive the offense is in 2006, Ohio State, under JT, isn't likely to start hanging 60 on UL-U Pick'em and Rice anytime soon. 3 of VY's last 5 games were against Baylor, Kansas, and Colorado -- Texas won those three games by the combined score of 198 - 17.
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Kansas, CU, and OU all had good defenses this year. For as much crap that was laid on the Big XII this year, they did go 5-3 in their bowl games. Add to that the fact that Vince didn't play many second halfs this year, so as has been proved time and time again, he didn't get any of his yards in mop up time.

As for the rushing attempts stats, we didn't have one TB, we had three, Young, Taylor and Charles that played in the aforementioned times when Vince played, and they didn't play in mop up time either. Combined they had 313 carries, and Vince had 155. Pittman and MWells had 304 combined carries, and Troy had 136, don't know how many times either was sacked. I believe Troy played in two less games, so it seems to me that he might have the opportunity to put up these kinds of numbers. Also, Troy sure did seem to run the ball a lot against UT when he was in there.

And yes, our running plays often came out of the zone read, which is basically an option, but if anything, most fans were hoping that Vince would have called his own number on more occasions.

I think Troy is going to have a great season. From what I have seen, and from what I have read on here, two years ago, he had to wait until midseason to get a chance with the offense, and week after week developed it into quite the offensive force. Then he had his suspension problems, and by the time he was named the sole starter, he had to build that momentum again. By the end of the year, he was again running the offense extraordinarily well. So this spring/summer he should be able to be build on the momentum continuously and start off hot. This next year should be a great offensive year for the Buckeyes, which should help your defense, as it comes together in the first few weeks of the season before starting conference play.
 
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troy stopped running soon after the texas game. he actually seemed to be scolded too much and refused to scramble at times vs PSU.


he didn't hit his stride until after the PSU game. He would not light up Texas or PSU now, but he certainly would do better than he did early this year.

Not splitting reps and/or sitting out of practice/games will help a lot in his production.


Aside from the off-field stuff, the parallels between Troy and VY are striking. He was exciting his first year, still much maligned early in 05, but became incredibly dominant later in the year. Used a huge bowl game to springboard to being one fo the NC favorites, and after an away game featuring the longhorns he helped his case for the heisman.
 
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buck e said:
Bowl records are perhaps the most worthless indicator as to how good or bad a conference is.
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how do you suggest measuring the strength of a conference? People (on this site included) use this as a measuring stick all the time. But, I was just making an aside, as the Big XII was considered horrible all year, and in the Bowl games, they showed up. CU lost, but played Clemson strong, without their QB and without a coach, people were expecting that game to be a massacre. Tech lost on a last second FG (that game suprised me.) Iowa State barely lost to arguably the best non-bcs team in the nation. On the other hand, OU topped Oregon (overrated, but still a one loss team), Mizzou beat the almighty Spurrier. A supposedly horrid Nebarska team beat scUM, Kansas' actually solid defense, shut down a run and gun Houston offense, and Texas beat the GTOAT. Considering that Tech and Kansas were the only two favorites out of eight Big XII bowl teams (buy about three points each), I think that the bowl games this year were a good indicator that the Big XII was severly underrated. (Not saying that they were the best conference.) But whatever.
 
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They can be used to help your case as long as you look at specifics. Win-Loss isn't always the story. Take for instance this year's bowl matchups. People were saying the Big 10 had a rough post-season because our record wasn't that good. What they don't mention is how those Big 10 teams that lost were unranked and their opponent was relatively highly ranked (NW, Iowa, Minnesota). The games where the Big 10 was represented by a solid team, went as expected (OSU, PSU, Wiscy). The only exception to the rule was M*ch*g*n because they suck balls.
 
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Bowl record by itself is a poor indicator of how strong a conference is. Conferences with teams that travel well will be awarded bowl games that are beyond their rankings.

Hell, I swear Northwestern outdrew UCLA in the Sun Bowl (in El Paso!).

However, I must admit, UM losing to Nebraska was a pathetic display on behalf of the Big Ten.
 
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DDN

2/27

Young: No commotion over throwing motion

By Chick Ludwig
Dayton Daily News
INDIANAPOLIS | Texas quarterback Vince Young wants to silence critics who claim his sidearm throwing motion is too unorthodox for the NFL.
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<!-- inset --> <!--begintext--> "Sitting down with some of the coaches, hearing the different things they've been saying, is that there's nothing really wrong with it," Young said at the NFL Combine on Friday. "The media, that's who keeps talking about the throwing motion. There's nothing wrong with the throwing motion.
"Just hearing from the coaches, I need to keep getting my mental part of the game better and better, and keep doing what I've been doing all my life, playing football."
Young seems ready to concede the No. 1 draft pick to USC tailback Reggie Bush.
"If he's the No. 1 pick, he's the No. 1 pick," Young said. "All I know is I just want to continue living my dreams of playing football. Whatever team picks you, picks you. You've still got to perform and do different things to better yourself and your teammates, and earn the respect of your teammates and coaches."
What did the Longhorns' Rose Bowl victory for the national title do for him?
"Respect," Young said. "A lot of people who watch and understand the game of football could see how much I wanted that for my teammates and fans and family. It's been real crazy ever since, but it's been a blessing, and the hard work paid off a whole lot."
The wideout whisperer
Ohio State wide receiver Santonio Holmes' voice level is low, but his skill level is high.
Holmes calls himself an "all-around playmaker. Looking at all the things I've accomplished — the way I play on the field, the way I block, carry myself, leadership, I have all the ability to be a great wide receiver."
Following Urlacher
New Mexico wideout Hank Baskett said the success of fellow alum — Chicago Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher — has paved the way for New Mexico players. "He just lets everybody else know that it can be done," Baskett said. "That's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to show the kids in my hometown (Clovis, N.M.) and throughout the state that, hey, if I can do it, you can do it."
Quote machine
"When you get Vince Young, you get a two-headed monster. He can throw. He can run. He changes the game." — St. Louis Rams head coach Scott Linehan.
 
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