USC Trojans (official thread)

[muffler dragon]

Yes (I know you lived here too). The Beavs beat #1 ranked USC the year before--08.
You're right, SC wasn't under sanctions yet when the Ducks beat them in 09. My bad. SC was ranked #5 at the time but finished 9-4. Signature win?

Don't get me wrong, ExPat, I wasn't denying your entire statement. Just putting a few points into perspective.
By no means, were the Ducks expected to beat the Trojans until after Kelly was established and the sanctions hit. The decline of the Trojans was in place even towards the end of Carroll's tenure.

 

[ExpatAkronite]

Didn't you find the Kelly hype a wee bit irritating? On the one friends in my peer group (in their 50's) who were Ducks fans were tolerable. They had been through the Toilet Bowl. Younger Duck fans (and the legion of bandwagon jumpers) which comprised a lot of the people I worked around--were fucking insufferable. And of course you couldn't point out facts to them because--well, you know this is breaking new ground.

 

[kujirakira]

It was even intolerable in Seattle ...

 

[ExpatAkronite]

It was even intolerable in Seattle ...

More so I imagine!

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Let's not be rash here. I really like the direction the USC program is going and I think we should continue to show our support for the current administration.

Aren't they running out of Pete Carrol assistants?

 

[DiamondBuck]

Aren't they running out of Pete Carrol assistants?

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

I just don't get the Chip Kelly "mystique". He ran up the score against a lot of mediocre teams with a lot of razzle dazzle. He lost pretty much every big game--Buckeyes, LSU, Auburn, Boise St.--twice. His freaking signature win is a shootout over Wiscy in the Rose Bowl (yeah Bielama and shootout--not cookout--is what comes to every ones mind). That being said (as USC ranks just behind TSUN in my fanboi contempt) I would love it if it happened. Duck fan meltdown would surpass Mt. St. Helens and USC would still be irrelevant.

He won big at a place like Oregon. Let that sink in. He was probably pulling in MAYBE top 20 classes at Oregon. Probably top 30 classes, at least in the beginning. He'll be pulling in top 10, probably top 5 classes at USC. Yes, in the big games (specifically bowl games), his teams have struggled. But that's because when given time, other teams can coach up their team better to neutralize scheme. And then it's who has better athletes. At USC, or Texas, he'd have better scheme and better athletes.

 

[ExpatAkronite]

He won big at a place like Oregon. Let that sink in. He was probably pulling in MAYBE top 20 classes at Oregon. Probably top 30 classes, at least in the beginning. He'll be pulling in top 10, probably top 5 classes at USC. Yes, in the big games (specifically bowl games), his teams have struggled. But that's because when given time, other teams can coach up their team better to neutralize scheme. And then it's who has better athletes. At USC, or Texas, he'd have better scheme and better athletes.

Kind of like Rich Rod at TSUN?

 

[muffler dragon]

Didn't you find the Kelly hype a wee bit irritating? On the one friends in my peer group (in their 50's) who were Ducks fans were tolerable. They had been through the Toilet Bowl. Younger Duck fans (and the legion of bandwagon jumpers) which comprised a lot of the people I worked around--were fucking insufferable. And of course you couldn't point out facts to them because--well, you know this is breaking new ground.

I never had to worry about it much. There were more Beaver fans that I worked with than Duck fans. They dealt with amongst themselves.

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

Kind of like Rich Rod at TSUN?

But way better? Yea, like that. Chip Kelly was 11.5-1.75 per season. Rich Rod 8.6-3.7. Chip was also 8.25-0.75 in conference with Rich Rod being 4.86-2.0 in conference. And I'm fairly certain the Pac 12 is a taaaaaaaaad better than the Big East. Quick question: is an 86.8% overall winning % and 91.7% in the Pac 12 better than 69.8% overall winning % and 70.8% in the Big East?

 

[Sgt Brutus]

I'm calling bullsh*t that he has stopped drinking

Sad but I called it. I've seen it first hand, hard to just stop drinking. Or you do quite.. for awhile.. and you go weeks without a drop. But then you have "just one drink" and downhill it all goes.

It's USC so I should be feeling joy in the mess this has created but really I just feel anger towards Pat Haden for enabling this and letting those players down.

 

[ExpatAkronite]

But way better? Yea, like that. Chip Kelly was 11.5-1.75 per season. Rich Rod 8.6-3.7. Chip was also 8.25-0.75 in conference with Rich Rod being 4.86-2.0 in conference. And I'm fairly certain the Pac 12 is a taaaaaaaaad better than the Big East. Quick question: is an 86.8% overall winning % and 91.7% in the Pac 12 better than 69.8% overall winning % and 70.8% in the Big East?

Probably a tad....but then UCLA did win the Pac South with a 6-6 record in 2011.

 

[Sgt Brutus]

Kind of like Rich Rod at TSUN?

That's what my mind drifts towards when I hear the Kelly to Tx/USC talks. I think of the success RR has had at mid level programs like WV and Zona but he couldn't cut it at Michigan (although he had no support there). Now, I think it'd be fair to say Chip is a better coach than RichRod but I question whether he'd be such a slam dunk at either of those schools like people assume. Also, doesn't his style differ largely from the styles at USC and Texas? Traditional boosters might not take kindly to drastic changes he would make, similar to RR at Mich.
All speculation on my part, just a gut feeling like how I thought he's crash and burn in Philly. I could see Kelly having great success at Maryland actually.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

USC = University of Sloshed Coaches

 

[charlohiottean]

USC = University of Sloshed Coaches

Take this, you've earned it.