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Sure! That was my intention all along. Rick’s going, huh?
I stopped watching TWD sometime after, hell, I don’t even remember how far I got now. Pretty far. Carl was dead so I’ve got that going for me.
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It struck me the other day that, with everything old being new again/time being a flat cirle etc, we are likely just seeing a 21st century update of the mentor by the protege.
Urban Meyer has lost at least 1 game every year at OSU, other than '12, which has been a completely inexplicable loss to a completely inferior opponent. This has happened with some of the best players in Buckeye history on the roster. Elliott, Bosa x 2, Mike Thomas etc etc etc
For the guys too young to remember, "Old 9-3 Earle" Bruce did the same thing but, as the nickname suggests, three times a year. This also happened with some of the best players in Buckeye history on the roster; Chris Spielman, Cris Carter, Kieth Byars, Jim Lachey, Pepper Johnson, Marcus Marek etc etc etc
I am sure there are people dumb enough to want Meyer gone.
I am not one of them.
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Same. I don’t want Urban gone. I just want him to stop losing those real head scratchers far too often.
Purdue? By 30? GTFOH
MSU in ‘15? GTFOH
MSU in the B1G championship game? Some real wtf in that one.
But who has it better lately other than Bama? Maybe Clemson? Rare company Ohio State lives in. Just a shame they aren’t taking advantage more and putting a complete product together. Always some glaring weakness that is readily apparent and yet never fixed until it’s already bitten the team in it’s ass, it seems.
I’m spoiled.
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Poe McKnoe
Head Coach
You make a couple good points here.
First, I don’t know who on this board said it first, but Dabo built at Clemson what Meyer was supposed to build here. Dominating defense and dynamic offense. One national championship, and defending a TE away from another. All that, and they can’t stop struggling with Pitt...
Second, and the one that gets me, is that reluctance to address glaring issues until the fatal flaw becomes just that. You can see the snowball rolling down the hill, then it finally falls apart at the bottom of the hill.
I’ll add infuriating conservative game plans and play calling. There’s certain games, against certain teams, where you know the offense will be wound up tighter than Jim Tressel milking a 3 point 4 quarter lead. Early on it was MSU, and later it has been PSU, where the coaches clearly have no confidence in the play calling or players. You might see a new blocking scheme or variation of the existing plays, but you don’t see attack mode that’s evident against weaker competition.
And as long as we’re piling on here, special teams. Somehow Urban has gone from savant to forgot. His Florida teams and early OSU teams lived off huge special teams plays including blocked punts and KR/PR touchdown. Now, we’re just happy if they catch the ball or don’t rough the kicker. Those extra points do a lot to demoralize the competition, and build leads in a hurry. My belief is they don’t have the dynamic players on offense he had in the past.
Fix one of these, and I’ll be happy.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
I think there's one sure fire way he stays, and that's losing to tsun. I don't think it's any secret that the whole "he used health problems to run from Saban" narrative grinded on him, and I can't think of a lesser way that he'd like to leave the scene than have the "and then he used health problems to run from Harbaugh" narrative arise, and you know that's what happens if he loses and then quits.
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Sure! That was my intention all along. Rick’s going, huh?
I stopped watching TWD sometime after, hell, I don’t even remember how far I got now. Pretty far. Carl was dead so I’ve got that going for me.
I knew that wasn't what you were going for
Not to derail the thread but yeah, he gone. They have been advertising the shit out of his last episodes all season, just so you know I am not giving a spoiler out. This season has actually been really good. Anyways, that is for another thread.As to Urban, there is no way in hell I consider him even close to the hot seat. There isn't anyone better out there not named Nick Saban in my eyes. That being said, I am frustrated with the head-scratching losses as well. I am looking at the Tressel comparisons and I think as a resident recruitnik the reason why I expect slightly better results is because UFM has recruited at a much higher level than JT. If UFM was recruiting at the same level as JT, then ok. But year in and year out, UFM has recruited at unprecedented levels that are right on par with Bama. Bama has numerous championships to show for it and we have one. They take comparable recruiting talent and typically don't drop the big games. In '14 it looked like we were going to be stride-for-stride with Bama but frankly, I am glad that was the last time we faced them because it hasn't been that way at all. At this point I just think you have to recognize that Saban is the better coach, but we have the next best thing. That doesn't mean we will never be as good as Bama for as long as they have Saban and we have UFM. It just means that expecting that same level of success on a yearly basis is unrealistic.
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That'd be a bout the dumbest narrative since "OMG HE'S GOING TO LEAVE AT THE END OF THE YEAR!!!!"
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RugbyBuck
Our church has no bells.
For all the talk/yelling/oaths about culture, the chase, the grind, wolves (? I never will understand that one), etc., the word that's sprung to mind for me since 2014 is complacency. As said above, given the level of recruiting and that winning the 1st CFP made it testimony not theory, I thought we'd be pretty much neck and neck with Bama for awhile and, as said above, that hasn't happened. Complacency in the lack of fire I see for the most part in our wins and definitely in the beatdowns we've taken annually. Complacency in the borderline fundamentalist adherence to a schemes that don't always work or don't work anymore. Complacency, with exceptions, in the hiring and retention of coaches; cronyism and nepotism don't ultimately work. Eventually, recruits will start to see this and while we'll still win more than we lose, we'll still lose players we really want. That's happening already - Wandale is just the latest example; no way that kid should be going to KY, although, admittedly, he also chose KY over Bama.
I don't want him to leave, but I do want him to tighten his shyte up.
I don't want him to leave, but I do want him to tighten his shyte up.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
I didn't say it was an intelligent narrative. I said that it would be the inevitable one around the country if Harbaugh beats him and then he quits.
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