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Underclassmen Declare For 2008 NBA Draft

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crazybuckfan40;1140036; said:
We are going to agree to disagree on this one, but I think that Gordon has a higher ceiling than Ben Gordon...And teams would kill for a player like Ben Gordon who could give them 18 points off the bench...I just don't think that Gordon will be a guy that will be a 6th man type...Not a franchise player, but I think he can be a starter for a long time in this league...

He may be undersized at 6'3'' 6'4'' but he is a bigger guard in terms of stregth...

I think that DWade is a solid comparison in terms of size and stregth, and he has a better jumper than DWade...

I understand I am throwing out some all-star type guys, and I am not saying that he is going to reach their game but just giving some guys that his game compares to and why I think that he will succeed...
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about exactly what I said. I agree.

I don't really see any players you can absolutely build your franchise on in this draft.
 
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billmac91;1140040; said:
about exactly what I said. I agree.

I don't really see any players you can absolutely build your franchise on in this draft.
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I agree, but I think that Beasley and Rose are slam dunk picks...Guys that you don't trade out of the spot if you have them...

I also really like Beasley as a 6'3'' pg and Lopez if he can develop his game some more...Very athletic big man that I think will fit in nice in the NBA...

Once again we see a draft with alot of potential, kids that just aren't ready, but more ready than they would of been...

I also really like the Batum kid from France...Think he would be a steal at 12 like nbadraft.net has him...
 
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[quote='BusNative;114004;5]I think E. Gordon compares well to Chauncey Billups and/or Baron Davis in terms of body type and ability to score in alot of ways. Speaking on potential, of course.[/quote]

Yeah but he doesn't have the point guard skills like those two that is why he is looked at as an undersized SG...
 
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[quote='BusNative;114004;5]I think E. Gordon compares well to Chauncey Billups and/or Baron Davis in terms of body type and ability to score in alot of ways. Speaking on potential, of course.[/quote]

I can see Billups a lot more than Baron Davis.....Baron Davis is a one of kind type player.....In his prime, I don't think there has ever been a player who could do the things he could do with that body stature. His explosiveness, with is body type, and ball handling skills was just absurd.

I can see Gordon as a Baron Davis without the PG skills.

By the way, some clown on ESPN was trying to say Brandon Rush is the next Scottie Pippen. LOL.
 
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billmac91;1140052; said:
I can see Billups a lot more than Baron Davis.....Baron Davis is a one of kind type player.....In his prime, I don't think there has ever been a player who could do the things he could do with that body stature. His explosiveness, with is body type, and ball handling skills was just absurd.

I can see Gordon as a Baron Davis without the PG skills.

By the way, some clown on ESPN was trying to say Brandon Rush is the next Scottie Pippen. LOL.
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That is funny stuff...I would love to see it tho if the Cavs were to draft him...That is who nbadraft.net has us taking...I do like his game tho, but just not sure how much help it would be to us next year...The one guy I am turning the corner on a little, but think he is more of a SF is Tyler Smith, especially with their comparison to Josh Howard...UT fans don't think he will leave tho...
 
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crazybuckfan40;1140053; said:
That is funny stuff...I would love to see it tho if the Cavs were to draft him...That is who nbadraft.net has us taking...I do like his game tho, but just not sure how much help it would be to us next year...The one guy I am turning the corner on a little, but think he is more of a SF is Tyler Smith, especially with their comparison to Josh Howard...UT fans don't think he will leave tho...
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I got to watch Josh Howard in person for several years while I was at FSU....He played at Wake, although you probably know that. He was amazing to watch as a college player..some guys just have "it" and he was one of them.

I like Tennessee as a team, and they have some talent, but I really don't think Tyler Smith can hold a candle to Josh Howard.

I really have no idea where the Cavs should go if they don't take a PG.....I'm a little sour on PG after watching some of the best prospects absolutely tank. I still think a good PG takes the Cavs to another level.

I'm not sure I understand the Cavs taking Brandon Rush. Where does he fit in? A big doesn't help us immediately either. We aren't in a position to build for the future so drafting someone we need to develop is pretty fruitless.

I'm still for a PG, I just don't know who warrents a first round selection at this point. I will say Brazelton of WKU left the best impression on me outside of Rose. I'm still not seeing Brazelton's name thrown around much, but I haven't looked at many mocks since the NCAA Tourney anyways.

I said a while ago I liked Tyreese Rice too, but I'm not sure if he's coming out. Rice would be a steal in the second round, allowing them to go Best Player Available in the first.
 
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billmac91;1140055; said:
I got to watch Josh Howard in person for several years while I was at FSU....He played at Wake, although you probably know that. He was amazing to watch as a college player..some guys just have "it" and he was one of them.

I like Tennessee as a team, and they have some talent, but I really don't think Tyler Smith can hold a candle to Josh Howard.
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Yeah this is probably true, but I like Smith and then I saw that and thought maybe they were seeing something watching him more than i had

I really have no idea where the Cavs should go if they don't take a PG.....I'm a little sour on PG after watching some of the best prospects absolutely tank. I still think a good PG takes the Cavs to another level.

I'm not sure I understand the Cavs taking Brandon Rush. Where does he fit in? A big doesn't help us immediately either. We aren't in a position to build for the future so drafting someone we need to develop is pretty fruitless.

I'm still for a PG, I just don't know who warrents a first round selection at this point. I will say Brazelton of WKU left the best impression on me outside of Rose. I'm still not seeing Brazelton's name thrown around much, but I haven't looked at many mocks since the NCAA Tourney anyways.

I said a while ago I liked Tyreese Rice too, but I'm not sure if he's coming out. Rice would be a steal in the second round, allowing them to go Best Player Available in the first.
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GUys like Brazelton, Rice, etc. will be in the second round...There should be a solid player for us at 19...

I like Arthur from Kansas but think he is going to go earlier now after his good tourney...

I think Rush fits in for the backup to either Rush or Brown, but then where does Boobie fit in...I still say BPA as LBJ can play with a good player at any position...

I like some guys projected to go 2nd round than I do some of the guys in the first...If we could land Collison or Augustine I would be all for that...Both are true points and don't let a bad tourney sour you that much...

Dante Green and Chase Budinger are two guys to watch too, but their lack of defense worries me...
 
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crazybuckfan40;1140057; said:
Yeah this is probably true, but I like Smith and then I saw that and thought maybe they were seeing something watching him more than i had




GUys like Brazelton, Rice, etc. will be in the second round...There should be a solid player for us at 19...

I like Arthur from Kansas but think he is going to go earlier now after his good tourney...

I think Rush fits in for the backup to either Rush or Brown, but then where does Boobie fit in...I still say BPA as LBJ can play with a good player at any position...

I like some guys projected to go 2nd round than I do some of the guys in the first...If we could land Collison or Augustine I would be all for that...Both are true points and don't let a bad tourney sour you that much...

Dante Green and Chase Budinger are two guys to watch too, but their lack of defense worries me...
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As far as Green and Budinger go, I just don't see what value they can bring. Especially Green, who will languish away like Shannon Brown did. If the Cavs want to become a better team, they need players who can step in as upgrades to what they have.

The only position we'd be able to do that is at PG. Unless a great college player slides to us at 19, I'm not for taking a guy like Budinger or Green.

What about packaging #19 with a guy like Sasha, Wally, West, Smith, or a combination to move up?

If they could get into position for an OJ Mayo or Augustine, I think it'd be worth it. I don't know if Augustine lasts to 19. If he's there, that's probably the move to make. I'd rather reach for Collison at 19, especially after Brazelton ate him up in the tourney.

Anyways, it will certainly be interesting.
 
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COLLEGE NEWSWATCH
Kansas State's Beasley chooses to become pro



Tuesday, April 15, 2008

From staff and wire reports
After putting together one of the best freshman seasons ever, Michael Beasley is headed to the NBA.
Kansas State's All-American freshman announced Monday that he will skip his final three seasons to enter the June 26 NBA draft, where he could be the No. 1 overall pick.
"It's time to take my game to the next level," Beasley said as his family and several teammates looked on in Manhattan, Kan. "I think I proved myself over the course of the season. I just think it's time for new challenges."

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