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ttun Shenanigans and Arguments (2016 official thread)

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NFBuck said:
Peppers showed zero indication of being an "elite lockdown corner" last year. Zero. None. In fact, IIRC, his coverage skills were considered a weakness. His best skill seemed to be blowing up/snuffing out screens...which is great...it's a nice thing to have, but he wasn't a great tackler, took odd angles, and got juked out of his jock-strap by JT Barrett. He's an elite athlete...but that seems to be the basis for this insane hype they're creating at places like mgoblog. Maybe the light clicks on and he becomes a "destroyer of worlds" this year, but at this point there's zero indication that happens. In fact, them bouncing him around to different positions would seem to indicate they're trying to find a position where his athleticism lets him shine while hiding his flaws the best. The Woodson comparisons are so far beyond laughable, they're not even worth addressing. They should be happy if he becomes a poor-man's Chris Gamble based on what he showed last season.
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I think it also signals that they're going to emulate our defensive philosophy to some extent. They've seen how we used Lee - a converted very athletic DB - the last 2 years. And Shazier before him.
That WLB can basically play as a Nickel / Star on his side w/o having to swap out personnel. Despite the hype machine and hyperbole, I have to give Hairball some credit on this one -- it's a move that should take advantage of Peppers elite athleticism while hiding his subpar coverage a bit against the occasional slot assignment. Releasing him to be a heat seeking missile, while also hiding his angles by bringing him closer to the line of scrimmage.
 
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NFBuck said:
Peppers showed zero indication of being an "elite lockdown corner" last year. Zero. None. In fact, IIRC, his coverage skills were considered a weakness. His best skill seemed to be blowing up/snuffing out screens...which is great...it's a nice thing to have, but he wasn't a great tackler, took odd angles, and got juked out of his jock-strap by JT Barrett. He's an elite athlete...but that seems to be the basis for this insane hype they're creating at places like mgoblog. Maybe the light clicks on and he becomes a "destroyer of worlds" this year, but at this point there's zero indication that happens. In fact, them bouncing him around to different positions would seem to indicate they're trying to find a position where his athleticism lets him shine while hiding his flaws the best. The Woodson comparisons are so far beyond laughable, they're not even worth addressing. They should be happy if he becomes a poor-man's Chris Gamble based on what he showed last season.
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it is clear to me now that you are neither all in nor willing to hold the rope for the harbles.

"i" don't think he is an elite lock down corner. his coaches are the ones saying this as they move him to lb to pave the way for kids with very little experience. it is this exact mindset that i am trying to understand. if a kid is the single greatest cb in the history of the ever... why would you move him to lb specifically?
 
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martinss01 said:
it is clear to me now that you are neither all in nor willing to hold the rope for the harbles.

"i" don't think he is an elite lock down corner. his coaches are the ones saying this as they move him to lb to pave the way for kids with very little experience. it is this exact mindset that i am trying to understand. if a kid is the single greatest cb in the history of the ever... why would you move him to lb specifically?
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Be that as it may, their team is full of top end talent. Light on experience they may be, but I'm sure that the raw talent will make up for the lack of...

Oh fuck it. NM. I've never been good at make believe.
 
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martinss01 said:
it is clear to me now that you are neither all in nor willing to hold the rope for the harbles.

"i" don't think he is an elite lock down corner. his coaches are the ones saying this as they move him to lb to pave the way for kids with very little experience. it is this exact mindset that i am trying to understand. if a kid is the single greatest cb in the history of the ever... why would you move him to lb specifically?
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Both Stribling and Lewis were the starters at CB last season.
 
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matcar said:
Do you think Peppers will be B1G elite at anything? He is an athlete without a definite position. Middling.
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B1G elite? Hard to say, all the tools are there. I do think that this year he will make a big jump. I think that he will be around for his Sr. year and he actually will be playing the same position 2 years in a row. He looked really good in spring ball roaming around lighting people up. He looked comfortable.
 
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