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ttun Shenanigans and Arguments (2016 official thread)

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At the risk of showing that fucking whack job any credit, they did beat some really good teams, and like it or not, they flat out outplayed us for 3+ quarters on our field. They are a legit top-10 team. That said, that was essentially because they had an extremely experienced team, and as I've posted earlier, I think they've shot their wad in relation to their chance of finally beating us while we're not under an interim head coach.
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D-grade trolling. About what you would expect from a buffoon like Whitlock.
I dunno about a D... I thought that was solid B level work right there. He managed to synthesize two sources of pain (Hairball bolting and the memory of Hoke) in a way that acknowledges how recent it was that they thought their last *ichigan *an savior fell flat on his fat ass.

And did so in a way to make everyone who reads it pause to consider the possibility...

Hell, in some places that kind of work might get you an A-.
 
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Apparently scoring a two minute drill td on a short field to go up by three means you outplayed the other team the entire half. Especially when the other team has a missed field goal.

The missed FG wasn't until the 4th quarter.

3rd qtr drives:
OSU 4 plays, 13 yards, interception returned to OSU 42
MICH 6 plays, 40 yards, fumbled at OSU 2
OSU 6 plays, 17 yards, botched fake punt
MICH 5 plays, 22 yards, TD
OSU 9 plays, 35 yards, punt
MICH 6 plays, 14 yards, interception returned to MICH 13
OSU 2 plays, 4 yards (other 9 yards via off-side and Harbaugh going ballistic) TD
MICH 2 plays, 11 yards (end of quarter, drive continued in 4th)

Totals:
OSU: Four drives, 69 yards (9 via penalty), two turnovers (INT and botched fake punt), one TD
MICH: Three full and one partial drive, 87 yards (0 via penalty), two turnovers, on TD
 
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The missed FG wasn't until the 4th quarter.

3rd qtr drives:
OSU 4 plays, 13 yards, interception returned to OSU 42
MICH 6 plays, 40 yards, fumbled at OSU 2
OSU 6 plays, 17 yards, botched fake punt
MICH 5 plays, 22 yards, TD
OSU 9 plays, 35 yards, punt
MICH 6 plays, 14 yards, interception returned to MICH 13
OSU 2 plays, 4 yards (other 9 yards via off-side and Harbaugh going ballistic) TD
MICH 2 plays, 11 yards (end of quarter, drive continued in 4th)

Totals:
OSU: Four drives, 69 yards (9 via penalty), two turnovers (INT and botched fake punt), one TD
MICH: Three full and one partial drive, 87 yards (0 via penalty), two turnovers, on TD
The second missed FG wasn't until the 4th quarter. The first one was on the first drive.

  • 1st and 10 at OSU 8
    (11:30 - 1st) Curtis Samuel run for 14 yds to the OhSt 22 for a 1ST down

  • 1st and 10 at OSU 22
    (11:08 - 1st) Curtis Samuel run for 2 yds to the OhSt 24

  • 2nd and 8 at OSU 24
    (10:49 - 1st) J.T. Barrett pass complete to Noah Brown for 15 yds to the OhSt 39 for a 1ST down

  • 1st and 10 at OSU 39
    (10:28 - 1st) Mike Weber run for 5 yds to the OhSt 44

  • 2nd and 5 at OSU 44
    (10:07 - 1st) J.T. Barrett run for 6 yds to the 50 yard line for a 1ST down

  • 1st and 10 at 50
    (9:53 - 1st) Barrett, J.T. pass incomplete to Brown, Noah, PENALTY MICHIGAN holding (Stribling, Channing) 10 yards to the MICHIGAN40, NO PLAY, 1ST DOWN OHIOST.

  • 1st and 10 at MICH 40
    (9:47 - 1st) J.T. Barrett run for 19 yds to the Mich 21 for a 1ST down

  • 1st and 10 at MICH 21
    (9:16 - 1st) Mike Weber run for 1 yd to the Mich 20

  • 2nd and 9 at MICH 20
    (8:45 - 1st) J.T. Barrett pass complete to Curtis Samuel for 1 yd to the Mich 19

  • 3rd and 8 at MICH 19
    (8:24 - 1st) J.T. Barrett sacked by Channing Stribling for a loss of 1 yard to the Mich 20

  • 4th and 9 at MICH 20
    (8:11 - 1st) Tyler Durbin 37 yd FG MISSED
 
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The missed FG wasn't until the 4th quarter.

3rd qtr drives:
OSU 4 plays, 13 yards, interception returned to OSU 42
MICH 6 plays, 40 yards, fumbled at OSU 2
OSU 6 plays, 17 yards, botched fake punt
MICH 5 plays, 22 yards, TD
OSU 9 plays, 35 yards, punt
MICH 6 plays, 14 yards, interception returned to MICH 13
OSU 2 plays, 4 yards (other 9 yards via off-side and Harbaugh going ballistic) TD
MICH 2 plays, 11 yards (end of quarter, drive continued in 4th)

Totals:
OSU: Four drives, 69 yards (9 via penalty), two turnovers (INT and botched fake punt), one TD
MICH: Three full and one partial drive, 87 yards (0 via penalty), two turnovers, on TD


OSU missed a FG on the opening drive of the game.
 
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It was 168 to 98 in favor of tsun in terms of total yards for the first half and the score would have been 10-10 but for the easy FG missed.

OSU was "outplayed" in terms of field position, of that there can be no doubt. tsun's 17 points in regulation came off drives that started at their 37, 45 and OSU 22 respectively.

OSU had 3 separate drives (77,72,61) that covered a longer distance than the longest tsun drive of the day (55). OSU scored 3 points off those 3 drives.

So when people imply that OSU got lucky on the two INT's that led to 14 points I would make the argument that it was luck evening out for the three long drives that saw two missed chip shot FG's from a normally reliable kicker.
 
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The second missed FG wasn't until the 4th quarter. The first one was on the first drive.
A 37-yarder isn't a given, even for a kicker who had been as reliable as Durbin was. A miss from 21 yards, however, is inexcusable. Also, my reply was in response to a claim that we didn't get outplayed in the third quarter and that the missed FG was a factor (it wasn't, since it wasn't in the third quarter).
 
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It was 168 to 98 in favor of tsun in terms of total yards for the first half and the score would have been 10-10 but for the easy FG missed.

OSU was "outplayed" in terms of field position, of that there can be no doubt. tsun's 17 points in regulation came off drives that started at their 37, 45 and OSU 22 respectively.

OSU had 3 separate drives (77,72,61) that covered a longer distance than the longest tsun drive of the day (55). OSU scored 3 points off those 3 drives.

So when people imply that OSU got lucky on the two INT's that led to 14 points I would make the argument that it was luck evening out for the three long drives that saw two missed chip shot FG's from a normally reliable kicker.
I never really saw it this way, but you are right. The one thing I did see the entire game that was so frustrating was the field position battle that we consistently were "behind" in. Somehow, for a variety of reasons - some self inflicted and some because TTUN did some things well in special
teams - we were losing the field position battle with the exception of the turnovers. It was maddening.
 
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Both offenses were absolute messes for a large majority of the game. Or, I guess you could argue that both defenses played pretty exceptional games.

On second viewing, I didn't feel we were "outplayed" all that much. The difference for the first 3+ quarters was that scUM had capitalized on their opportunities slightly better than tOSU. However, scUM wasted multiple opportunities to put the game away before the fourth quarter, and when the chips were down, our boys woke up and answered the call, where scUM went into a shell and essentially gave the game away. They were tight and mistake prone in crunchtime...almost like they could sense the inevitability of it. That's a product of their coach, and a direct contradiction to what the Harbrau was supposed to bring. Our guys played loose and confident. That's a product of our coach.

We outplayed them SIGNIFICANTLY when it counted.

EDIT- and Harbrau's little temper-tantrum that resulted in the penalty was a very tangible turning point in the game. You could sense the wheels coming off the wagon as soon as he chucked his headset.
 
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So when people imply that OSU got lucky on the two INT's that led to 14 points I would make the argument that it was luck evening out for the three long drives that saw two missed chip shot FG's from a normally reliable kicker.
I can agree with most of your post, but a 37-yarder is never a "chip-shot". He did pick a poor time to miss his first FG of the year from inside 40 yards...
 
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