Trev Alberts - AD at Univ. of Omaha

[Steve19]

Sidehatchhusker, defending Trev Alberts around here is a bit like

Legend in his own mind that he is, Trev Alberts showed himself to be a classless act when he persisted in reporting allegations against Ohio State sports administrators, coaches, and players despite knowing that the NCAA had completed two investigations and found no evidence to support the allegations.

If you defend Trev Alberts here, expect to be about as lonely as the Maytag repairman.

 

[muffler dragon]

Steve:

I believe it's alexhortdog that you should direct that to.

 

[alexhortdog95]

2) Lincoln DOES look down on Kearney and it has every right to do so. Kearney's got the arch and a five mile loop to get to it. Whoop-de-fucking-do. Place is a hole.

ROFLMAO - Well, I didn't want to say anything, as I'm sitting here in Omaha as I type this, but....

And people that are lobbing stones at Trev, I'm not speaking to anything PRIOR to what he's done at UNO. All I know is that people here in the Metro like to think UNO has the O left off and an L there.

If people wanted to support the athletic department, perhaps they can get offa their duffs and SUPPORT THEM once in a while? I donno, purchase a ticket, or pimp a game or something....

If butts aren't sitting in the seats, then the school wouldn't have the funding problems it has. Same thing happened to the Racers, Ak-Sar-Ben, the Omaha Beef, and the list goes on...and on...and on. People in Omaha can be fairweather fans.

 

[Steve19]

Steve:

I believe it's alexhortdog that you should direct that to.

Well, I suppose both of them actually. My post wasn't antagonistic to either of them. My intention was to rather alert them to sensitivities on this site to that trainwreck of a sportscaster.

 

[alexhortdog95]

Well, I suppose both of them actually. My post wasn't antagonistic to either of them. My intention was to rather alert them to sensitivities on this site to that trainwreck of a sportscaster.

Hey, I know the guy was a [Mark May] as a sportscaster. But he's an athletic director now for the school here in my hometown. The actions he's taken, although quite unpopular, has saved about six people's jobs I know personally that work at the university. Arrogant, yes. Stupid? No.

Here's notes from a public forum that happened a few days ago - some interesting reading:

http://www.kvnonews.com/2011/03/regents-meet-to-vote-on-unos-d1-move/

And a "I shoulda did things a bit differently" story from the OWH:

http://www.omaha.com/article/20110326/SPORTS/703269780/-1

 

[Steve19]

Hey, I know the guy was a [Mark May] as a sportscaster. But he's an athletic director now for the school here in my hometown. The actions he's taken, although quite unpopular, has saved about six people's jobs I know personally that work at the university. Arrogant, yes. Stupid? No.

Here's notes from a public forum that happened a few days ago - some interesting reading:

http://www.kvnonews.com/2011/03/regents-meet-to-vote-on-unos-d1-move/

And a "I shoulda did things a bit differently" story from the OWH:

http://www.omaha.com/article/20110326/SPORTS/703269780/-1

Perhaps due to distance, I see this differently. Trev Alberts appears to be making decisions to make himself look like a no-nonsense guy that can bring athletic programs into accountability in the short-term. Given that very few athletic programs in the country are profitable, he no doubt sees this as a way to move himself forward to a big job.

My best guess is that he'll be gone inside two years and the program will be worse off in five years than it is today. I'd like to think I am wrong but, if you are a believer in this guy, you might want to sign up for the Rich Rod counseling fund in Ann Arbor, just in case.

Does that little program in Omaha need his strategy? I really don't know or care. What I do know is that, just like the proverbial scorpion who stings the frog on the way across the river because "it's what I do", Alberts will not lose sight of his priorities--he'll see them every time he looks in the mirror.

 

[muffler dragon]

ROFLMAO - Well, I didn't want to say anything, as I'm sitting here in Omaha as I type this, but....

And people that are lobbing stones at Trev, I'm not speaking to anything PRIOR to what he's done at UNO. All I know is that people here in the Metro like to think UNO has the O left off and an L there.

If people wanted to support the athletic department, perhaps they can get offa their duffs and SUPPORT THEM once in a while? I donno, purchase a ticket, or pimp a game or something....

If butts aren't sitting in the seats, then the school wouldn't have the funding problems it has. Same thing happened to the Racers, Ak-Sar-Ben, the Omaha Beef, and the list goes on...and on...and on. People in Omaha can be fairweather fans.

Well... if you're not going to defend Kearney, then I got nothing.

 

[alexhortdog95]

Does that little program in Omaha need his strategy? I really don't know or care. What I do know is that, just like the proverbial scorpion who stings the frog on the way across the river because "it's what I do", Alberts will not lose sight of his priorities--he'll see them every time he looks in the mirror.

Well, like you said - it's distance. He's probably the best guy to do it - very unpopular, seen as arrogant, all those good things.

Point blank - the athletic department was bleeding money like a cut boxer. They couldn't see what to do to fix the problem. His decision, while unpopular, will make it much easier for future athletic directors to keep a handle on the funding for the athletic program.

Somebody had to do it, may as well be a guy that people see as a jerk.

A few years ago, they didn't even know if they were going to have an athletic program. They talked about nixing the football program, and they ran that AD out of town. People in Omaha don't seem to realize that we have to put INTO a program what we expect OUT of a program.

It's just like the Qwest Center. Folks whined, complained, moaned and groaned about it, how much it was going to cost, yada, yada. People got ready to run the Mayor out of town, it was a bad idea. Till it got here, and we started getting people here from all over the country.

Also like the new TD/Ameritrade Park - people are all pissed that Rosenblatt won't be the home for the College World Series. But when the NCAA said they wanted to keep it in Omaha, but wanted new digs for the Series, folks here (of course) fought against it. People need to look at big picture around here, and they don't.

I've lived in Omaha my entire life. I'm well traveled (having served in the Army), but I still love my hometown. And although he made some missteps in his decision, I still think Alberts decision was the right one for UNO - not just the wrestling/football programs.

 

[alexhortdog95]

Well... if you're not going to defend Kearney, then I got nothing.

When I think of Kearney, I think of a quote that Donald Southerland had in "The Dirty Dozen" where he was impersonating a general...

"Where you from, son?"
"Madison City, Missouri, Sir!"

shakes head...
"Never heard of it."

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJJHSsLhE24"]YouTube - Dirty Dozen (1967) - General Inspection[/ame]

 

[Steve19]

Well, like you said - it's distance. He's probably the best guy to do it - very unpopular, seen as arrogant, all those good things.

Point blank - the athletic department was bleeding money like a cut boxer. They couldn't see what to do to fix the problem. His decision, while unpopular, will make it much easier for future athletic directors to keep a handle on the funding for the athletic program.

Somebody had to do it, may as well be a guy that people see as a jerk.

A few years ago, they didn't even know if they were going to have an athletic program. They talked about nixing the football program, and they ran that AD out of town. People in Omaha don't seem to realize that we have to put INTO a program what we expect OUT of a program.

It's just like the Qwest Center. Folks whined, complained, moaned and groaned about it, how much it was going to cost, yada, yada. People got ready to run the Mayor out of town, it was a bad idea. Till it got here, and we started getting people here from all over the country.

Also like the new TD/Ameritrade Park - people are all pissed that Rosenblatt won't be the home for the College World Series. But when the NCAA said they wanted to keep it in Omaha, but wanted new digs for the Series, folks here (of course) fought against it. People need to look at big picture around here, and they don't.

I've lived in Omaha my entire life. I'm well traveled (having served in the Army), but I still love my hometown. And although he made some missteps in his decision, I still think Alberts decision was the right one for UNO - not just the wrestling/football programs.

I am glad that you feel passionate about the place where you live. Every city needs people like you and I am sure that you have a positive contribution on life there. I hope you won't be too disappointed if I say that I really don't know much about the things you discuss or any interest in them.

We can write wonderfully crafted posts with our opinions about Trev Alberts, his current or future behavior and the likely outcomes for the UNO athletic program. But, in the end, our opinions will be just that, opinions. Any disagreements will remain unresolved until the results of Alberts' management bears its fruit in years to come. I see little reason to continue down that line.

You've made your point. He may have warts but you're a believer. My advice is to not get too strongly invested in that belief.

Perhaps you are one of those people who has run major companies or served in consulting roles. If so, then you know what I mean when I mention the words "toxic manager". What makes these managers toxic is their almost total disregard for the interests of the stakeholders that they have been entrusted to serve. People often shake their heads because toxic managers seem to move up to great jobs. Managers can be measured on two dimensions. Results and values. The career paths of managers who have the right results and right values or the wrong results and wrong values are pretty easy to determine.

What about those who have the right values but wrong performance, or the right performance but wrong values? Jack Welch recently mentioned that one of the most important things he had learned was to change the way he treated those two groups. Traditionally, he had retained and promoted people who got results, even if their values were the wrong values. However, he found that closer analysis showed that these toxic managers actually chased away other more productive people. In the case of people with the right values but wrong performance, he found that they could be reassigned to jobs they could handle and quickly become right performance/right values people.

I'm not convinced that Trev Alberts is a right performance guy. It's just too early to tell and any manager can cut marginal products in order to achieve short-term gains. After all, it is really very easy to call someone on the phone and drop their program, isn't it? I have seen enough to suggest that he is a wrong values guy. Perhaps I am wrong, but I don't think I am. If you check back over the years, you'll see that I called it right with Troy Smith, Rich Rod, Charlie Weis, and several others. So, I am perfectly willing to wait a few years and see if my predictions come to pass. In the meantime, my advice is to not invest too much in the Trev Alberts bus before it leaves town.

 

[alexhortdog95]

I am glad that you feel passionate about the place where you live. Every city needs people like you and I am sure that you have a positive contribution on life there. I hope you won't be too disappointed if I say that I really don't know much about the things you discuss or any interest in them.

We can write wonderfully crafted posts with our opinions about Trev Alberts, his current or future behavior and the likely outcomes for the UNO athletic program. But, in the end, our opinions will be just that, opinions. Any disagreements will remain unresolved until the results of Alberts' management bears its fruit in years to come. I see little reason to continue down that line.

You've made your point. He may have warts but you're a believer. My advice is to not get too strongly invested in that belief.

Perhaps you are one of those people who has run major companies or served in consulting roles. If so, then you know what I mean when I mention the words "toxic manager". What makes these managers toxic is their almost total disregard for the interests of the stakeholders that they have been entrusted to serve. People often shake their heads because toxic managers seem to move up to great jobs. Managers can be measured on two dimensions. Results and values. The career paths of managers who have the right results and right values or the wrong results and wrong values are pretty easy to determine.

What about those who have the right values but wrong performance, or the right performance but wrong values? Jack Welch recently mentioned that one of the most important things he had learned was to change the way he treated those two groups. Traditionally, he had retained and promoted people who got results, even if their values were the wrong values. However, he found that closer analysis showed that these toxic managers actually chased away other more productive people. In the case of people with the right values but wrong performance, he found that they could be reassigned to jobs they could handle and quickly become right performance/right values people.

I'm not convinced that Trev Alberts is a right performance guy. It's just too early to tell and any manager can cut marginal products in order to achieve short-term gains. After all, it is really very easy to call someone on the phone and drop their program, isn't it? I have seen enough to suggest that he is a wrong values guy. Perhaps I am wrong, but I don't think I am. If you check back over the years, you'll see that I called it right with Troy Smith, Rich Rod, Charlie Weis, and several others. So, I am perfectly willing to wait a few years and see if my predictions come to pass. In the meantime, my advice is to not invest too much in the Trev Alberts bus before it leaves town.

Oh, I'm not all in a tizzy like most folks, LOL. I respect the fact that you've got your opinion about the guy. I, too, don't see him being here in Omaha much longer. I was only stating that the decision he made probably saved the next guy a bunch of heartache.

I was also stating as well that people from Nebraska that post on here whine and complain about the decision that he made, but they're the first ones NOT to support the school.

I don't think that Trev is a particularly nice fellow. He was a trainwreck of an analyst....and sucked as a pro (but non) pro player. But his decision saved a bunch of people their jobs.

The unfortunate thing about all this? There's a bunch of kids who can't wrestle or play football anymore. Tough break for them, yes, but the school had to go on.

Finally - I made my statement for a multitude of reasons, but the main reason is this:

If someone claims they're from Nebraska, they better damn well know about the situation before they come to another fan's board running their mouths. The people here on BP are making an opinion about the guy, not the situation, for the most part. And while I agree with the 'toxic manager' (see Steve Peterson) statement, he saved the next guy (which will be real soon) a ton of headache and heartache.

 

[Mike80]

This just in - Trev Alberts is a classless whiny bitch.

 

[Muck]

This just in - Trev Alberts is a classless whiny bitch.

No shock here. He's also a liar.

Wrestling with the truth in Nebraska

.../snip/...

NO athletic director Trev Alberts said the university couldn't afford to keep football and wrestling in its move up from Division II to join the Division I Summit League, which doesn't sponsor the two sports. But an analysis of various financial statements and studies by "Outside the Lines" and economist Andy Schwarz shows discrepancies in UNO's numbers and raises questions about predictions that the university will fare better financially in Division I without the two programs.

Alberts, who was hired as athletic director two years ago, is a former All-American linebacker from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. After three years in the NFL, he became a TV sports analyst and worked for ESPN until 2005.

Alberts, along with UNO Chancellor John Christensen and other university officials, turned down several requests by "Outside the Lines" to review the figures, and they declined to any answer questions about the university's decision.

"By choosing to make the jump to D-I without football, UNO has made their chance of success much lower," Schwarz said. "Whatever additional money and other benefits they will earn [in D-I] is less than they would likely earn if football were part of the D-I package, because they've understated the benefits of football and wrestling by about $1.5 million."

Forgetting about the revenue provided by athletes such as Dennis is just one of the economic oversights, said Schwarz, an antitrust economist and partner at OSKR, a firm in Emeryville, Calif., that specializes in economic analysis and expert witness testimony. Schwarz has conducted several studies of college sports finances and accounting.

In public statements, Alberts said the football program was losing $1.3 million a year. However, according to financial statements filed with the NCAA that "Outside the Lines" obtained through public records requests, the football program was short $50,500 in revenue, and the wrestling program was ahead by $143,000 for the 2009-10 fiscal year.

Where Alberts seems to be making his argument is by not counting the $1.2 million that the football program receives from student fees and direct funds from the university, according to the NCAA report.

.../cont/...

I wonder if the IRS will let me file in a lower bracket next year if I just don't count part of my income. Hmm...

 

[alexhortdog95]

No shock here. He's also a liar.

Wrestling with the truth in Nebraska



I wonder if the IRS will let me file in a lower bracket next year if I just don't count part of my income. Hmm...

Yeah, I just saw a lynch mob just pass my office window....

Van Deeb saying things are shady is like the pot calling the kettle black. Slumlord.

 

[Muck]

Yeah, I just saw a lynch mob just pass my office window....

Damn <5min you're definitely keeping an eye out! lol

Seriously though the most damning thing I've seen so far is the deletion of all emails.

That is about as big a red flag as you could possibly throw up.