Trash removal from Sandusky thread

[Dryden]

He was Joe Pa's good friend, if someone told me my best friend was a child molester I'd call Bullshit and not believe them. He reported it to his boss and the boss didn't act on it, so Joe Pa figured he was innocent, which was what he wanted to believe to begin with.

Fine. How about the police tell you your best friend is a child rapist in 1998. You fire your best friend in 1999. You stop acknowledging he even exists in 2000. Then he brings another child over to your house to rape him in your shower in 2002. And then he has a boyscout bonfire in your backyard in 2007. And then again in 2009.

You're just gonna let all that slide?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Exactly. If believing my friend is innocent till proven guilty is idiotic, I'm an idiot.

OK, then how about contacting the PROPER authorities (i.e. the cops, state's attorney and children's services) and let a PROPER investigation and, if necessary, trial take place.

 

[Bucky32]

Exactly. If believing my friend is innocent till proven guilty is idiotic, I'm an idiot.

It's all about the subject of the matter. It's not like Paterno didn't report Sandusky for stealing Skittles or something. We're talking about deeply scarring sexual acts performed on children that will haunt them for their entire lives.

 

[Muck]

Exactly. If believing my friend is innocent till proven guilty is idiotic, I'm an idiot.

 

[sepia5]

He was Joe Pa's good friend, if someone told me my best friend was a child molester I'd call Bull[Mark May] and not believe them. He reported it to his boss and the boss didn't act on it, so Joe Pa figured he was innocent, which was what he wanted to believe to begin with.

That's idiotic.

Come on man it's his BEST FRIEND. It's all about what you want to believe.

Exactly. If believing my friend is innocent till proven guilty is idiotic, I'm an idiot.

 

[bassbuckeye07]

No. He reported it to his boss, which is what he was told to do, his boss (to his knowledge) didn't find anything. You're innocent till proven guilty, and Sandusky was not proven guilty by his Superiors.

So if I witness or if my direct report witnesses a woman beat and robbed at gun point by another person on my staff....I should just report it to my boss? got it thanks.

 

[AKAK]

Exactly. If believing my friend is innocent till proven guilty is idiotic, I'm an idiot.

Even if you have pretty good reason to believe your friend is running around fucking little kids in the ass?

 

[gnepmatt]

Fine. How about the police tell you your best friend is a child rapist in 1998. You fire your best friend in 1999. You stop acknowledging he even exists in 2000. Then he brings another child over to your house to rape him in your shower in 2002. And then he has a boyscout bonfire in your backyard in 2007. And then again in 2009.

You're just gonna let all that slide?

He did that? Alright, told you I wasn't caught up with all the info. That's pretty fucked up.

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

He was Joe Pa's good friend, if someone told me my best friend was a child molester I'd call Bullshit and not believe them. He reported it to his boss and the boss didn't act on it, so Joe Pa figured he was innocent, which was what he wanted to believe to begin with.

March 2, 2002 -- A graduate assistant allegedly tells Coach Joe Paterno that he saw Sandusky in the locker room shower on Mar. 1 with a young boy. The retired defense coordinator was engaging in anal sex with the boy, believed to be no more than 10 years old.

March 3, 2002 -- Paterno reports the incident to Athletic Director Tim Curley. Paterno tells Curley the grad student had seen Sandusky "fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy." The graduate assistant is called to a meeting with Curley and Schultz.

It is a little beyond "a rumor" in March of 2002. An eye witness told JoePa he saw Sandusky engaged in anal sex with a boy. That is the time you go to the police.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Exactly. If believing my friend is innocent till proven guilty is idiotic, I'm an idiot.

Then the shoe fits. You're basically saying it's OK to ignore common sense and eye witness reports because the guy is your friend.

 

[Deety]

Exactly. If believing my friend is innocent till proven guilty is idiotic, I'm an idiot.

How about being such a good friend that you step in and stop your ol' buddy from doing things that will send him to hell?

Friends don't let friends anally rape children.

Now there's something I never would have thought would have needed to be said.

 

[Saw31]

Here's what I have. Someone came to Joe Pa, saying they witnessed a molestation. The person told Joe Pa to tell his boss, Joe Pa told his boss, boss did nothing, Joe Pa thinks everything is alright and that the person was being a sinister liar. That's what I have.

Jesus Fucking Christ! The person who told him is still a coach at PSU and, I presume, a trusted 'friend' of Paterno as well. If you don't know the facts of this story as it has been laid out to this point, catch the fuck up. It was not some anonymous tip or someone unknown to JoPa who told him he witnessed this. Read the fucking thread...

 

[jwinslow]

Here's what I have. Someone came to Joe Pa, saying they witnessed a molestation. The person told Joe Pa to tell his boss, Joe Pa told his boss, boss did nothing, Joe Pa thinks everything is alright and that the person was being a sinister liar. That's what I have.

you left out the part where Sandusky had his locker room keys taken away

why was his best friend stripped of access to the scene of the alleged crime if he was innocent?

 

[Bucklion]

Here's what I have. Someone came to Joe Pa, saying they witnessed a molestation. The person told Joe Pa to tell his boss, Joe Pa told his boss, boss did nothing, Joe Pa thinks everything is alright and that the person was being a sinister liar. That's what I have.

Dude, really...he didn't witness a recruiting violation, he didn't witness someone using a company computer to download Brazzers porn...HE SAW A GUY RAPING A CHILD. That is not the type of shit you tell the AD, it is the type of shit you tell the AUTHORITIES. Of course you tell the AD after the fact to handle things internally with the coaching staff, but YOU TELL THE GODDAMNED COPS IF YOU SEE A CHILD BEING RAPED, or if someone tells you they saw a child being raped. PERIOD.

 

[gnepmatt]

Dude, really...he didn't witness a recruiting violation, he didn't witness someone using a company computer to download Brazzers porn...HE SAW A GUY RAPING A CHILD. That is not the type of [Mark May] you tell the AD, it is the type of [Mark May] you tell the AUTHORITIES. Of course you tell the AD after the fact to handle things internally with the coaching staff, but YOU TELL THE GODDAMNED COPS IF YOU SEE A CHILD BEING RAPED, or if someone tells you they saw a child being raped. PERIOD.

Wait!? Now Joe Pa witnessed the raping himself? This story isn't adding up.. very similar to the Ohio State 'scandals' of the last 10 years.