tOSU Transfer Portal Recruiting Discussion

[ScriptOhio]

 

[OhioState001]

Like college amateur sports were originally intended to be....

Time to be done with the facade of big time College sports being anything more than minor leagues for the pros.

I would like to know what percentage of the guys we recruit as freshman actually end up getting degrees from Ohio State.

Seems like most of the guys getting degrees are walk-ons or 5-year players who are not starters.

There are exceptions I know Dre'mont Jones got his degree which is great but it seems like that is becoming uncommon

 

[ScriptOhio]

Look at it the other way;

• Pass on Justin Fields
• Martell, Bladwin, Mathis are what you are going to war with in 2019
• Martell transfers anyway when Baldwin wins the job (assuming for a second that Baldwin isn't leaving for actual personal reasons)
• 2019 QB room is RS Fr Baldwin, FR Mathis and Chugunov

I'll take the Fields option 100 times out of 100

I agree, if you owned an NFL team (like the Browns) would you rather have Tom Brady and "chopped liver" or (a trio of QBs like) Brandeon Weeden, Colt McCoy, and Brian Hoyer who aren't going to win anything. It's a "no brainer" take Fields. Fields is relatively unpoven; however, he definitely has biggest "upside"/most potential.

 

[buchtelgrad04]

When did they not have that chance? The portal didn't begin player transfers. Don't mean to just single you out or argue over the 'ruin cfb' claim; simply don't understand this stance of player empowerment as they've always had the ability to transfer schools.

They've had the ability to transfer, they did not have the ability to be re-recruited. The transfer portal takes transferring to a different level.

The ability to transfer in 2005 is not equal to 2019.

 

[dozenmonkeyz]

They've had the ability to transfer, they did not have the ability to be re-recruited. The transfer portal takes transferring to a different level.

The ability to transfer in 2005 is not equal to 2019.

Just don't see that a major power shift, more of a technicality. The waiver process has had substantially more effect on the player leverage and likelihood to transfer.

 

[buchtelgrad04]

Just don't see that a major power shift, more of a technicality. The waiver process has had substantially more effect on the player leverage and likelihood to transfer.

You don't see how a system that allows a player to enter his name into a pool of available players across the country for all coaches to see, while still being enrolled at another place (with the ability to withdraw your name from said pool), and having available college level film out there provides more power to the student than a system where those things are not in place?

 

[inliner311]

I agree, if you owned an NFL team (like the Browns) would you rather have Tom Brady and "chopped liver" or (a trio of QBs like) Brandeon Weeden, Colt McCoy, and Brian Hoyer who aren't going to win anything. It's a "no brainer" take Fields. Fields is relatively unpoven; however, he definitely has biggest "upside"/most potential.

I don't think it's good to apply NFL ways of thinking to college football especially with how to build a roster. Recruiting is different then the draft and free agency. It's harder to rebuild depth in college football. No one is long term in college. Fields if he plays well will be gone in 2 years and if he is here for 3 years then something happened in his development.

In college you can win on the highest level with a backup coming in. Its not a death sentence when your starting QB goes down if you have depth. The separation between starter vs backup isn't usually huge like the NFL.

 

[ScriptOhio]

JOEY PAULUS? Ohio State needs a quarterback, and a beloved backup at a different sport has thoughtfully volunteered his services.



Ohio State could have a more difficult time landing a graduate transfer quarterback than most expect, because who the hell is going to do it? Graduate transfers typically leave their programs in search of playing time, not another bench to sit on. Anyone willing to use their final year of eligibility as a backup at another school probably isn't really going to help Ohio State all that much.

What I'm saying is, maybe Joey's offer is worth a shot. I mean, he's already proven incredibly talented at sitting down and waving a towel on the sideline. Give him a scholarship and have him do it in pads instead.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...ransfer-changes-joey-lane-quarterback-walk-on

 

[dozenmonkeyz]

You don't see how a system that allows a player to enter his name into a pool of available players across the country for all coaches to see, while still being enrolled at another place (with the ability to withdraw your name from said pool), and having available college level film out there provides more power to the student than a system where those things are not in place?

Not what I said, at all. I feel it's not as big an advantage versus the old system as some make it out to be. It's not like players had a difficult time transferring or finding the right spot (underground recruiting) in the past. Now, it's simply more organized and 'sanctioned'. And as I did actually say, the waiver process is far more impactful and relevant to player power. I'm not trying to get into an argument with you; saw this mentioned several times, by several posters, and was wondering if I was missed something.

 

[billmac91]

I'm a fan of the transfer portal, as I believe it does benfit the players quite a bit, and has leveled the playing field against coaches who move like musical chairs without any penalty at all.

My only beef with this situation is the timing. There were a lot of grad-transfer QB's available this off-season that would've made a ton of sense for OSU, had Baldwin made this decision earlier. The timing is odd to me, which leads me to believe this more than just a football decision. It puts OSU in a really tough spot this late in the game.

I think about a kid like Alex Hornibrook that essentially signed up to be a 5th year senior backing up James Blackman at FSU for a season. I'd imagine Hornibrook would've loved to come back-up Fields in Columbus vs going to what is a pretty unstable situation in Tallahassee. And that's just one example.....there has been a ton of QB's to sign already, leaving OSU really in a tight spot.....

 

[Steve19]

I'll consider it.

 

[CFPBuckeye]

Aint nobody need an Alex Hornibrook. If it comes down to him, what’s it matter?

 

[buchtelgrad04]

When did they not have that chance? The portal didn't begin player transfers. Don't mean to just single you out or argue over the 'ruin cfb' claim; simply don't understand this stance of player empowerment as they've always had the ability to transfer schools.

Not what I said, at all. I feel it's not as big an advantage versus the old system as some make it out to be. It's not like players had a difficult time transferring or finding the right spot (underground recruiting) in the past. Now, it's simply more organized and 'sanctioned'. And as I did actually say, the waiver process is far more impactful and relevant to player power. I'm not trying to get into an argument with you; saw this mentioned several times, by several posters, and was wondering if I was missed something.

That is what you said. But have at it, my man.

 

[dozenmonkeyz]

That is what you said. But have at it, my man.

You're right, that's what I said. As opposed to your earlier post insinuating something quite different. Thanks for clearing it up

 

[Jake]

Time to be done with the facade of big time College sports being anything more than minor leagues for the pros.

I think that facade disappeared long ago, especially in football.