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2026 tOSU Recruiting Discussion

It will be interesting if and how much the lower conferences become a minor league system feeding the power conferences.

I think a good % of guys who perform well enough at lower schools are definitely going to look to upgrade to greener pastures every year. It's already been happening and it isn't stopping.
 
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I think a good % of guys who perform well enough at lower schools are definitely going to look to upgrade to greener pastures every year. It's already been happening and it isn't stopping.
And it’s being openly used as a recruiting tool after talking with a number of parents of kids heading to lower tier schools. I know at least a dozen parents whose kids are heading to G5(is that still the term) schools. And every coach has told them and their kid that going to a lower tier school could help them get to a bigger school. Put some actual game tape up at a school like Tiffin and you could get to Akron, play great at Akron and you could end up at the B1G. Heck if a kid can make a transfer from UT- Martin to BC or NC State, they would’ve earned a big bump in NIL
 
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And it’s being openly used as a recruiting tool after talking with a number of parents of kids heading to lower tier schools. I know at least a dozen parents whose kids are heading to G5(is that still the term) schools. And every coach has told them and their kid that going to a lower tier school could help them get to a bigger school. Put some actual game tape up at a school like Tiffin and you could get to Akron, play great at Akron and you could end up at the B1G. Heck if a kid can make a transfer from UT- Martin to BC or NC State, they would’ve earned a big bump in NIL

Yep, it's all about moving up. School loyalty for the most part is non existent anymore, especially at the lower levels. You can't really blame these kids either, coaches have always been allowed to move up as they want if they were good enough and now it's the players time to do the same.
 
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I think the number of transfers could dramatically decrease with the buyout rule. It’s one thing to flip a kid like Beau Atkinson and then sign him to an OSU NiL, it’s much different when you also must buyout his NIL contract from UNC. Now imagine trying to buyout a kid like Luke Wafle who’s getting a deal that could make a 7 figure buyout, and then you still need to offer your own NIL deal. Idk how many are going to test that, and idk how many programs and their NiL collectives want to pay that much constantly for what are going to be unknowns.
Also, if a kid wants to transfer after 1 year at a school and can’t even crack the starting lineup at his first school, do you want to take the next crack at kid? You’re putting him in a new system, dealing with even more issues off the field in a new environment (away from family, classes, city, dumb decisions with a lot of money, etc)
Some kids just won't be a good fit with their program, and who knows how buyouts work if there are coaching changes. If a kid isn't working out, his school may be willing to negotiate a lower buyout to get rid of a bad fit, open up a roster spot, and/or free up salary cap funds.

It will be interesting to see if the flood of signers up north were able to add contract language for an easier exit if the sanctions bite hard. I'd assume tcun is trying to lock them in with the equivalent of front loaded signing bonuses, and I doubt high schoolers are smart enough to push their agents for protections relevant to that situation.
 
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Some kids just won't be a good fit with their program, and who knows how buyouts work if there are coaching changes. If a kid isn't working out, his school may be willing to negotiate a lower buyout to get rid of a bad fit, open up a roster spot, and/or free up salary cap funds.

It will be interesting to see if the flood of signers up north were able to add contract language for an easier exit if the sanctions bite hard. I'd assume tcun is trying to lock them in with the equivalent of front loaded signing bonuses, and I doubt high schoolers are smart enough to push their agents for protections relevant to that situation.
Why would any team lower their buyout to benefit another team? Even if he hasn't been a good fit, there's no reason to help another program.
Not sure how the coaching changes could affect it. But I just don't see the mass influx of transfers the minute the season ends like we've seen the last few years. I could be wrong, and we will see, but I can see players sticking even moreso since they're getting paid. If some of the kids for USC for example, aren't working out by year 2, they still have a contract to pay them. Why would some leave if they're making 6-7 figures and live in LA?
 
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Why would any team lower their buyout to benefit another team? Even if he hasn't been a good fit, there's no reason to help another program.
Not sure how the coaching changes could affect it. But I just don't see the mass influx of transfers the minute the season ends like we've seen the last few years. I could be wrong, and we will see, but I can see players sticking even moreso since they're getting paid. If some of the kids for USC for example, aren't working out by year 2, they still have a contract to pay them. Why would some leave if they're making 6-7 figures and live in LA?
I’m a little confused on how this all works with the transfer portal. Do I understand it’s almost like a trade scenario now? Do players still declare and then negotiate if someone wants them?
 
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I’m a little confused on how this all works with the transfer portal. Do I understand it’s almost like a trade scenario now? Do players still declare and then negotiate if someone wants them?
Its still, a player enters and then teams reach out and he can negotiate his NIL/contract deal. But now, if a player transfers, the team he transfers too must pick up a remainder of his NIL as a buyout. What @sammyjenkis was saying(from what I understand) is that the team the player leaves may negotiate how much of the remainder of the deal the team the player goes to, has to pay. So if Player A leaves from Mich St and has $300k left on his, if he transfers to UNC, they have to pay the $300k, or is it possible that they can negotiate to $200 just so they can free up a scholarship
 
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It’s still, a player enters and then teams reach out and he can negotiate his NIL/contract deal. But now, if a player transfers, the team he transfers too must pick up a remainder of his NIL as a buyout. What @sammyjenkis was saying(from what I understand) is that the team the player leaves may negotiate how much of the remainder of the deal the team the player goes to, has to pay. So if Player A leaves from Mich St and has $300k left on his, if he transfers to UNC, they have to pay the $300k, or is it possible that they can negotiate to $200 just so they can free up a scholarship
Thanks @pnuts34 !! Will be interesting in some cases to see if teams “release” players to free up cap space.

It’s a dog eat dog world and I’m wearing milk bone shorts…..NORM
 
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It appears that I haven't been 'keeping up'. Past NIL contracts (withoutside groups), have included clauses that say "NIL can be terminated at anytime by the issuing agency", or somesuch. Clearly on the side of the issuing agency, no? But with the recent legal case between Wiscy and the kid that bolted for another deal, there appears to be a time served element there now, as well. Wasn't aware that there were both time elements and buy-outs included in a prospect's NIL contract. Guess prospects contracts more resemble coaching contracts, what with guarantees and all.
 
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