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calibuck
Too soon old, too late smart
Huge. And seemed as if when the mic was handed to these kids, they were eloquent and smoother than expected. Also something taught/experienced at tOSU that doesn't make the news. Had a golf club member come up to me on Friday, and ask, 'with all that talent, how come you didn't win the Nati?" Guess where this Wolverweenie was from? Anyway, said, 'well, we had enough talent to beat you guys'.....
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Interesting article by LeCharles Bentley about the cost/benefit analysis of recruiting top-tier high school offensive tackles.
https://lecharlesbentley.substack.com/p/lb-system-the-hidden-liability-in
https://lecharlesbentley.substack.com/p/lb-system-the-hidden-liability-in
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I think it will be more than just the schools own development system, it will be a continuation (because it's already happening) and evolution of the smaller feeder schools acting/becoming a minor league system for the bigger schools.
Just using logic, I don't see how some version of a minor league system doesn't emerge from this current set up. No clue on exact timing or exact structure but directionally it almost has to happen.
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Agreed, something will have to give with OTs especially hitting higher and higher 7 figure deals for an unproven 17 or 18yo.
From what I've seen and heard from parents, coaches and even some players; schools are already starting to fall in line to a minor league system. I've posted a few times on various threads that journalists are already reporting that unless you're a highly ranked HS recruit, many of the elite P4 teams won't even look your way. Why would they risk getting a 3star player, who could transfer in a year and waste any development effort you put forth. When you can land an upperclassmen transfer who's already been in college for several years and is further along in his development and could offer college level play from day 1
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A couple things I see that will put pressure on the current system:
1. Smaller schools will get fed up with losing their investment when a player transfers and ask for compensation.
2. Whatever organization is trying to oversee football will want a resolution and end to the non-stop lawsuits. Today it is uncontrollable due to all the court cases.
There may be other solutions, but the one that jumps out to me is a collective bargaining agreement. The players would need to organize and have a collective representation to negotiate for them.
1. Smaller schools will get fed up with losing their investment when a player transfers and ask for compensation.
2. Whatever organization is trying to oversee football will want a resolution and end to the non-stop lawsuits. Today it is uncontrollable due to all the court cases.
There may be other solutions, but the one that jumps out to me is a collective bargaining agreement. The players would need to organize and have a collective representation to negotiate for them.
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Only issue with a CBA, is it lessens the players leverage. They have no reason whatsoever to organize when their making more money than ever now. It will have to get to a point where Collectives no longer see a ROI, and I just don't see that happening anytime soon. For example, Mark Cuban will only up his donation since he helped in getting IU an NC and their best season in history in Cig's 2nd year. Cody Campbell isn't slowing down his spending with TTU after getting them in the CFP last year and they just landed arguably the best RB in TX for 2027. USC and ND are getting all time classes. Miami was just in the NC after being laughed at by so many fanbases for "buying their roster". And I can keep going, but it doesn't look like enough school's are suffering to stop paying kids big money.
And smaller schools are getting better talent than ever before. If a kid asks for compensation, they can show him the door because there's guaranteed another kid willing to take his spot. And the opposite is true as well, a coach from Wofford, would take a kid from Mizzou(i.e. schools like: Tenn St, Tartleton St and Stephen F Austin and South Dakota to name a few that landed P4 transfers)
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calibuck
Too soon old, too late smart
Also believe that the 'golden goose' (NIL) is much smaller than the CFP teams. But also true that kids don't mature at the same rate, and may not 'peak' as a HS senior as many of the 5* players. Or play at smaller HS, against smaller teams.....anyway, point trying to make is that the MAC's and other leagues are indeed a minor league for the Bigs. And very much needed, so to grow/teach/train/give exposure to kids that are not ready for the big stage. I know I certainly wasn't ready as a gangly 18 year older (not that I made it big....), so do identify. Not physically nor mentally. Guess anybody can sue for anything, for sure, but have no answer for that. But believe it will elevate the smaller universities, and they'll have to invest in better coaches, etc to attract the 'better' kids, or make bigger gambles on the kids that will become DI players, someday. Same goals, just being played on a smaller board.
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It's a sequence thing.
The real risk for the players/need for CBA is when the owners (schools) collude to suppress wages.
I know it seems too competitive now and that it can't be done but you watch, money talks and the other bullshit walks. The B1G and SEC team up and it's over. The little guys (Texas Tech) will get squeezed out of TV revenue more than a billionaire booster can make up for (generally speaking). I guarantee you they are already thinking about it and seeing it. We have hundreds of years of post industrial history that point to this being, essentially, inevitable.
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RhodeIslandBuck
This guy's a real jerk
I think that's one of the biggest issues. Making sure the smaller schools are actually incentivized to develop guys, despite knowing they will likely lose any significant quality to a bigger school within a 1-3 year period.
Transfer fees.
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