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NCAA Football '14 considers it a rivalry. I think we can all agree that ends the debate. Other rivalry? Illinois. Just wait...
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if only I was surrounded by a bunch of Penn State fans that night.And oh by the way.......
Fuck those child molesting fucks
oh wait....I was.
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Fremont Buckeye
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No kidding Sherlock. So you are telling me that if that same thing happened at Minnesota there would be over an 800 page thread you are kidding yourself.
At least some posters like Zurp were willing to be polite and debate me. You just after insult after insult. You showed your true worth.
OSU has a series record of 0.807 against NW and 0.552 against PSU. I am not saying that stat alone makes a rivalry but ignoring a and almost .3 % difference is just being ignorant.
. Are we talking about Penn State's athletic department or Ohio State's?
I'll PM you my seats. You can show up for any game you want. You just let me know.
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Let's imagine for a second that Minnesota had the same national stature as Ped State. The same allegedly iconic coach, the same smug bullshit about success with honor and all that - and it comes out that that iconic coach basically ignored child rape and the school covered it up protect said coach and his legacy.
You bet your ass they would. However, since this isn't 1938, Minnesota isn't one of the national entities in college football any longer.
Just because Ped State is an alleged college football king program or whatever you want to call it, doesn't mean they truly have a rivalry with Ohio State either. Rivalries aren't just built on the football field, they're built by location/geographic rivalries, economic rivalries and because the schools go after a lot of the same kids. With the Big 33 game not being Ohio vs. Pennsylshitholia any longer, the only real rivalry between the two states has disappeared. Pennsylshitholia thinks like the eastern state it is. Ohio thinks like the Midwestern state it is - which breeds the rivalry with scUM/Indiana/Illinois/etc.
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Buckeye86
I do not choose to discuss it
I hope we beat them 77-0 and all the recruits that have drank the "dominate the conference" koolaid (which I'm sure has more than a hint of "I coached in the SEC, of course I will crush the Big Ten" BS thrown in) are smart enough to ask him what happened Damien Harris and George Campbell style.
I hate the offseason because it's impossible to stop this nonsense on the field.
I hate the offseason because it's impossible to stop this nonsense on the field.
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You know what is very popular for posting, discussing and mocking?
Inane stupidity with staggering levels of delusion
Unspeakable scandals tied directly to a prominent and familiar football foe
Unmatched hypocrisy at the most arrogant, self righteous university in the Midwest
Your devotion to prove they are a rival and that everyone here is lying to themselves is quite the crusade.
Osu can have another rivalry but they don't earn it by being despised and certainly not by sarcastic arguments. They were on the cusp of becoming a secondary rival but chose mediocrity both times.
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buckeyesin07
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
This is rich, coming from someone who calls me ignorant (see below) and refers to another poster as "Sherlock." Glass houses and all.
Ohio State has gone 13-2 in the last 15 meetings. You call that a rivalry?
Again, I ask--are these seats at the Shoe or at Beaver Stadium?
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OSU's Big Ten record vs opponents during PSU's tenure:
59% - 12-8-1 PSU
68% - 11-5-1 Wisc
I'd love to hear more about the very relevant 25% winning percentage before they joined the league, though.
59% - 12-8-1 PSU
68% - 11-5-1 Wisc
I'd love to hear more about the very relevant 25% winning percentage before they joined the league, though.
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Fremont Buckeye
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No devotion really, and I have explained that before. I had a good debate with Zurp on this topic sometime last fall. I explained my full thoughts on it as did he in a polite way.
That is a two-way street. You can chastise me on scarcastic, but others in here are doing it as well, yet you only quote me.
Ohio State has gone 13-2 in the last 15 meetings. You call that a rivalry?
So when the Ohio State / Scum series started out 21 to 3 did people in Michigan really consider it a rivalry? The fact that Ohio State is 11-2 against Scum in the past 13 years just shows the eb & flow of a series/rivalry. If Ohio State won the next 2 games against Scum and were 13-2 in the last 15 meetings against them would you still call it a rivalry, of course. Short-term records can be a detramint to a rivalry, but are not the end all be all. As I explained to Zurp last fall I don't think the rivalry is in the same stratosphere as Scum, but you and several others make it out to be that I am. Jwinslow even said that it was on the cusp of becoming a rivalry in his mind (I believe that is what he meant), which to me means that if it was on the cusp than the ingredients are there for it to become bigger than what it is today. There no scarcasm in that reply jwinslow.
Never been to Beaver stadium and I don't care to go, so that would leave the Shoe. Once again you are more than welcome to stop by seats, I'll PM you the location if you want or you can stop by my tailgate for a beer and a burger, no hard feelings.
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b07 is the king of extreme and sarcastic arguments, which made me wince a bit and wonder whether or not his claim was valid about your quest to prove their rivalry.
It was. There were a lot of classic moments in their first decade in the league. Unfortunately they were reduced to mediocrity again and fell behind Wisconsin and now Sparty as secondary teams to focus on in the league.
They have done almost nothing in the last 5 years to be relevant other than exposure for enabling child rape.
The hatred is there.
The potential is there.
The proximity is there.
The credibility and relevance is not.
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Fremont Buckeye
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I would recommend talking to Jack Park since you would love to hear more about it. No better person to talk to than Mr. Park in that regards.
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Fremont Buckeye
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I see your point on that and my counter point would be that Ohio State historically has been domiant over both Sparty and Wisconsin and that both programs in the short term have been better secondary teams within the past 5 years for several reasons. I can't deny that. I just wonder if those programs will have the staying power as secondary teams for the long term, especially with Wisconsin in the West division and Bert being gone
That has been my main point, that despite whatever I believe, that the potential is there, and for a lot of posters it seems they can't even admit that the potential is there.
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Someone on some thread, maybe this one, said a rivalry requires some level of respect for the opponent. I happen to agree with that statement and it is the foundation for why I don't, and won't, consider Penn State a rival. I want Ohio State to beat Penn State into submission because I hate their fraud of a program, built on beating up cupcakes with home-cooked refs and because of their douche-bag fans. I do hate Penn State. Not like I hate Michigan. I hate Penn State not out of respect, but because of a complete lack of respect.
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