Bill Lucas
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This week as well. He had Wilson (or was it Marshall) down the right sideline for an easy touchdown and under threw it.
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This week as well. He had Wilson (or was it Marshall) down the right sideline for an easy touchdown and under threw it.
Oh bologna. Bad calls were made on both sides. Our bad calls benefited us in the first half. Their's happened the entire last drive. Nobody won unfairly.
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Taosman
Your Cousin In New Mexxico
It's just become a part of the college game that the refs can be horrible. In many years of watching Ohio State football, I've seen a bunch of games we lost because of bad officiating. The BIG even has rated crews, some are rated better than others and assigned "priority" games
Other fans can probably say the same of the teams they follow.
College football refs are "amateurs". (are NFL refs professionals?) Who have regular day jobs and ref for their love of the game, mostly.
Just look at how bad the SEC refs are! They are probably the worse in college football.
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Taosman
Your Cousin In New Mexxico
Here's an older article that's an interesting read. Notice the picture!
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/65313/bill-carollo-talks-big-ten-officiating
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/65313/bill-carollo-talks-big-ten-officiating
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I doubt you'd be saying that if we were in their shoes. Not trying to rile anyone up; just trying to keep it real. I don't agree with the conspiracy theories that the PSU fans have been crying about for years, but I did see remarkably incompetent and inept officiating on Saturday night. The rest of the world saw that Bell didn't intercept that ball. How, in 2014, is it possible that the officials didn't? Not bologna. Truth.
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Technical problem with the replay. It happens once in a while. It is Penn State, so I don't care.
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If it was some other team, maybe. But Ped State?
They can't be unjustly screwed often enough for me.
Karma's a bitch.
They can't be unjustly screwed often enough for me.
Karma's a bitch.
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I have a couple close gym-rat friends who are PSU grads...
and youngest son has a number of HS ball friends @ PSU...
when I saw Bells 'int'.. I thought "man are they gonna be pissed".. and I smiled;
then I saw the kick and the clock and I thought "man are they gonna be pissed".. and I smiled
there was a pass interference call on us I thought was VERY questionable
and no one caught the eye gouge... so screw 'em..
Game cost me all my vbucks and ruined my betting for a year... so they screwed me back
and youngest son has a number of HS ball friends @ PSU...
when I saw Bells 'int'.. I thought "man are they gonna be pissed".. and I smiled;
then I saw the kick and the clock and I thought "man are they gonna be pissed".. and I smiled
there was a pass interference call on us I thought was VERY questionable
and no one caught the eye gouge... so screw 'em..
Game cost me all my vbucks and ruined my betting for a year... so they screwed me back
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It happened to us in the Illinois game in 2007 when their RB fumbled on the 2 yard line and they gave him a touchdown. The booth tried to buzz the officials on the field but it didn't work so the play was never reviewed. That play was also early in the game and was not the reason we lost. We had 50 mins to recover from that play.
However, hitting a quarterback in the chest while the ball is leaving his hand is not roughing the passer. I don't care how hard he hits the ground.
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I probably wouldn't be...because I'd be looking for any way to justify a loss. That doesn't make it right.
It's the same as the NC game against Miami. If you want to review that PI call, go right ahead. But first you have to go back and review the holding on Gamble, the fact that he actually caught that ball for a first down, and the block in the back on the punt return. Any of those calls get made properly, and you don't have to worry about a sketchy PI in OT.....because there is no OT. The moral of the story is, you can't pick and choose what bad calls you want to change. They want to change the INT to an incompletion? Fine....then punt to us and we'll score anyways. They couldn't stop us on that first drive to save their lives. You want to call delay of game on the FG? Fine....kick it again from 5 yards back. They don't get to just take those 10 points off the board, and they don't get to just refute those calls while ignoring the ones that saved their asses in regulation.
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I feel like I've said this 20 times, so sorry if I'm annoying anyone.
But crowd noise. IMO the biggest hit in this game wasn't playcalling, it was how easily the offense was crippled by crowd noise.
Even in home games, JT regularly goes to the last second looking to the sideline for new play, making changes, pass protection, etc. -- with the crowd noise, there simply wasn't time for that. Urban burned a timeout very early in the game b/c of it. We tried it a few more times, but JT just couldn't get through the sequence he normally goes through. From the beginning, that pretty much killed the passing game; only thing left was deep balls (missed) and pre-determined screens.
In that way the offense became 1 dimensional, and that in turn led to JT getting banged up which just compounded the problem even more. Thankfully they found a way to pull out the win.
There's a point to be made that Herman becomes *very* predictable against the best opponents. That has an air of panic to it. But I'm not sure that was what we saw Saturday.
I think the issues all started with communication. That too is a coaching issue. Need to find a way to get receivers on the same page, get JT through his presnap reads and adjustments faster... maybe that means one of the OLine starts taking more responsibilities. I don't know how it happens, but imo that was the fundamental problem which dictated a limited playbook.
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MD Buckeye
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My thoughts summed up.....
There's no doubt some of the play calling was questionable & there's also no doubt JT got caught up in the environment, while also playing with a sprained knee (Meyer's words post game). I agree that the staff could've done some things to settle JT; quick passes to let him get in a rhythm. As others stated Saturday night, there was no rhythm to the O....until it came to OT. JT then blocked everything out (noise, knee, eye gouging, etc.) and put it all on the line for his team. He has now experienced one of the best environments in college football, struggled with it to begin, but dominated it to end and walked out with a W. He was a redshirt-freshman making his 7th start, while also playing for the first time in front of a raucous crowd on the road. There's going to be growing pains (I feel like a broken record), but JT and the team will be better for what happened Saturday night. They faced adversity and responded, in a big way.
Get healthy & blow the doors off Illinois.
There's no doubt some of the play calling was questionable & there's also no doubt JT got caught up in the environment, while also playing with a sprained knee (Meyer's words post game). I agree that the staff could've done some things to settle JT; quick passes to let him get in a rhythm. As others stated Saturday night, there was no rhythm to the O....until it came to OT. JT then blocked everything out (noise, knee, eye gouging, etc.) and put it all on the line for his team. He has now experienced one of the best environments in college football, struggled with it to begin, but dominated it to end and walked out with a W. He was a redshirt-freshman making his 7th start, while also playing for the first time in front of a raucous crowd on the road. There's going to be growing pains (I feel like a broken record), but JT and the team will be better for what happened Saturday night. They faced adversity and responded, in a big way.
Get healthy & blow the doors off Illinois.
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