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I'm never going to argue against great results. But I'll admit to scratching my head on the composition of the OL and snap counts. Hinzman just plays all game out of nowhere, Siereveld looked awesome and doesn't play, and Montgomery comes in last week but nothing this week. Maybe it's week by week on practice performance or injury related, but I was kinda surprised tbh. But pleasantly surprised, if Hinzman can do that regularly he earned the spot.
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
When it was first suggested last week, before the game, the idea seemed to be that Hinzman’s starting experience would be very beneficial in an atmosphere like that. Both in terms of been there done that, but also with the silent snap count stuff. Also heard mentions that Hinzman playing next to Jackson last year was seen as a benefit as they know how to play next to each other.
But yeah, don’t know that I care what it was… but that spot is his for as long as they go this year.
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Buckeneye
I lead, you follow.
After some time to re-watch and chart a bit, some thoughts.
*defense first*
- I still have concerns about Styles' eyes and decision making. Especially coming from depth in the 2 high shells. And when he's playing as an off-ball weakside nickel and dime backer, he's just lost at times. He's an athlete without a home when his mind needs to work.
- Igby should have been called for holding on that first Penn State drive that stalled out on 3rd down. Again the big deal is finding and striking the balance on the physicality of his wingspan usage. It's a great weapon, but not if you can't control it. He also needs to remember things like leaning into contact and not moving his feet, that will bite him in the ass sooner rather than later.
- Watching Jack Sawyer come off the ball from a 3 point reminds me of Patrick Jones from Pitt a few years ago. His motion is feels so robotic and un-fluid like. His steps are choppy and high while his pad level gets up too quick. I think that's what works to hinder his lack of elite burst and that initial edge threaten as much as anything.
- Cody Simon was doing a good job early of minimizing the grey areas in our zone coverages and choking off/limiting throws and YAC. That was nice to see a linebacker working eyes and body in sync.
- The DL showed flashes where they patiently layered their pass rush across the front and made escaping for Allar risky both laterally and vertically. It might not be sexy or immediate, but against QB's who can get happy feet, you have to play with that degree of methodical to you. Which they did after they settled in.
*offense second*
- Donovan Jackson made some money. He isn't an OT in the NFL, but his effort and play reminded me of Yanda. An IOL who played OT in a pinch and was serviceable doing it. That level of utility gets you bank. But DJ is still a guard at the next level, but a guard with quality feet.
- Penn State's defensive coaching staff was well aware of the pass pro issues the Bucks OL are having in straight drops. On Howards pick, PSU came out and bluffed pressure from a single high, then ended up rotating to cover 2. Their DB's and LB's sat heavy at the marker just watching Howards eyes. Which he obliged them by taking his pre-snap look for granted and didn't pick up the rotation. He lead them right to the throw.
It was something I spoke about and broke down in Will's thread as early as week 1. When the warning signs are there, that eventually means danger ahead. If he wants a shot at the NFL, you don't make those mistakes. That wasn't any type of super exotic look that he failed to appropriately account for. Ball security is priority #1 and turnovers will break your career. Just ask Jaemis Wintson.
With that, he was a much smoother operator later on. His best work was running the option on the read and the speed. He isn't an elite runner, but he has enough to punish and play to the design and he gets every inch of it. He also does good things extended plays and not prematurely dropping his eyes. That 'run to throw' type QB.
I'm slightly shocked, with how aggressive Penn State's Dline was getting upfield, that I didn't see any HB lead QB draws. PSU ran it a couple times for first downs. They were handing it to us, namely when they worked to attack Jackson playing LT. I feel that was a big missed opportunity by the coaching staff to at least show it was in the bag.
- Q Junk did work. Hendo too, can't really give much word on the RB's.
- Jeremiah continues to be special.
- Rest of the OL mauled rather well and fired off in the running game. But across the board they leave a lot to be desired in pass blocking.
- This team absolutely has to function through the play action and high percentage passing game.
Penn State is a decent team, but not what we would call a top 5 by any usual standard. So far, this feels like a pretty down year for college football in general. Can't spot the other team 2 quick scores, especially on the road. Bucks showed showed grit and bowed their necks in the redzone, but by that same vein, PSU really didn't put their best foot forward to take it either.
Grateful for all wins, especially road conference ones. But there's a lot of work to do with this squad.
*defense first*
- I still have concerns about Styles' eyes and decision making. Especially coming from depth in the 2 high shells. And when he's playing as an off-ball weakside nickel and dime backer, he's just lost at times. He's an athlete without a home when his mind needs to work.
- Igby should have been called for holding on that first Penn State drive that stalled out on 3rd down. Again the big deal is finding and striking the balance on the physicality of his wingspan usage. It's a great weapon, but not if you can't control it. He also needs to remember things like leaning into contact and not moving his feet, that will bite him in the ass sooner rather than later.
- Watching Jack Sawyer come off the ball from a 3 point reminds me of Patrick Jones from Pitt a few years ago. His motion is feels so robotic and un-fluid like. His steps are choppy and high while his pad level gets up too quick. I think that's what works to hinder his lack of elite burst and that initial edge threaten as much as anything.
- Cody Simon was doing a good job early of minimizing the grey areas in our zone coverages and choking off/limiting throws and YAC. That was nice to see a linebacker working eyes and body in sync.
- The DL showed flashes where they patiently layered their pass rush across the front and made escaping for Allar risky both laterally and vertically. It might not be sexy or immediate, but against QB's who can get happy feet, you have to play with that degree of methodical to you. Which they did after they settled in.
*offense second*
- Donovan Jackson made some money. He isn't an OT in the NFL, but his effort and play reminded me of Yanda. An IOL who played OT in a pinch and was serviceable doing it. That level of utility gets you bank. But DJ is still a guard at the next level, but a guard with quality feet.
- Penn State's defensive coaching staff was well aware of the pass pro issues the Bucks OL are having in straight drops. On Howards pick, PSU came out and bluffed pressure from a single high, then ended up rotating to cover 2. Their DB's and LB's sat heavy at the marker just watching Howards eyes. Which he obliged them by taking his pre-snap look for granted and didn't pick up the rotation. He lead them right to the throw.
It was something I spoke about and broke down in Will's thread as early as week 1. When the warning signs are there, that eventually means danger ahead. If he wants a shot at the NFL, you don't make those mistakes. That wasn't any type of super exotic look that he failed to appropriately account for. Ball security is priority #1 and turnovers will break your career. Just ask Jaemis Wintson.
With that, he was a much smoother operator later on. His best work was running the option on the read and the speed. He isn't an elite runner, but he has enough to punish and play to the design and he gets every inch of it. He also does good things extended plays and not prematurely dropping his eyes. That 'run to throw' type QB.
I'm slightly shocked, with how aggressive Penn State's Dline was getting upfield, that I didn't see any HB lead QB draws. PSU ran it a couple times for first downs. They were handing it to us, namely when they worked to attack Jackson playing LT. I feel that was a big missed opportunity by the coaching staff to at least show it was in the bag.
- Q Junk did work. Hendo too, can't really give much word on the RB's.
- Jeremiah continues to be special.
- Rest of the OL mauled rather well and fired off in the running game. But across the board they leave a lot to be desired in pass blocking.
- This team absolutely has to function through the play action and high percentage passing game.
Penn State is a decent team, but not what we would call a top 5 by any usual standard. So far, this feels like a pretty down year for college football in general. Can't spot the other team 2 quick scores, especially on the road. Bucks showed showed grit and bowed their necks in the redzone, but by that same vein, PSU really didn't put their best foot forward to take it either.
Grateful for all wins, especially road conference ones. But there's a lot of work to do with this squad.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Nearly 10 Million People Watched Ohio State Earn Its Eighth Straight Win Over Penn State
Ohio State’s 20-13 win over Penn State was one of the most-watched games of the 2024 college football season, drawing 9.94 million viewers on FOX.
Nearly 10 Million People Watched Ohio State Earn Its Eighth Straight Win Over Penn State
Nearly 10 million people tuned in to watch Ohio State earn its eighth straight win over Penn State.
FOX Sports announced Wednesday that an audience of 9.94 million viewers tuned in to watch the Buckeyes’ 20-13 victory over the Nittany Lions.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Davison Igbinosun, TreVeyon Henderson and Cody Simon Lead Pro Football Focus’ Highest-Graded Ohio State Players Against Penn State
Pro Football Focus’ highest-graded Buckeyes for Ohio State’s 20-13 win over No. 3 Penn State included three defensive players, TreVeyon Henderson and Will Howard.
Davison Igbinosun, TreVeyon Henderson and Cody Simon Lead Pro Football Focus’ Highest-Graded Ohio State Players Against Penn State
For the first time this season, a cornerback was graded by Pro Football Focus as Ohio State's best player in a single game. Three of the Buckeyes' five highest-graded players against Penn State were on the defensive side of the ball as Igbinosun, Cody Simon and JT Tuimoloau were Ohio State's first, third and fourth-highest-graded players in the 20-13 win at Penn State, according to PFF.
PFF's Grading Scale
| ELITE | GOOD | ABOVE AVG. | AVG. | BELOW AVG. | POOR | VERY POOR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 90-100 | 80-89 | 70-79 | 60-69 | 50-59 | 40-49 | Below 40 |
The Top Five
1. CB Davison Igbinosun (78.0)
Igbinosun earned his highest grade of the season, graded in the 70s for the second time in 2024 (Iowa) and was named the Naguski National Defensive Player of the Week. For the season, Igbinosun leads the team with an 88.1 tackling grade from PFF.How far has he separated himself in the tackling category? Among the Buckeyes who have played every game this season, Caden Curry is ranked second with a tackling grade of 80.1. A full eight points below Igbinosun.
However, it wasn't Igbinosun's tackling that people will remember from the Penn State game. It was this ridiculous interception in which he was being shoved in the face before snatching the ball away while keeping his right foot in bounds.
2. RB TreVeyon Henderson (77.9)
Henderson lands in the coveted top five for the first time since the Marshall game in Week 3. He earned the highest grade on the team in running (74.9) and had a respectable grade of 60.8 in run blocking.Perhaps his run blocking grade should be a little bit higher as Henderson absolutely destroyed Penn State's safety, Jaylen Reed, on the play Will Howard fumbled into the end zone.
3. LB Cody Simon (76.9)
Penn State's run game was mostly held in check on Saturday and Simon led the Buckeyes with 10 tackles. PFF gave him the second-highest grades on Ohio State's defense in overall defense, run defense (74.5) and tackling (81.9).4. DE JT Tuimoloau (74.6)
Tuimoloau didn't destroy Penn State like he did two years ago, but this is the fifth time this season the veteran defensive end has earned a PFF grade of 70 or higher. He received a grade of 76.9 in run defense, the highest on the team against Penn State.5. QB Will Howard (74.3)
In big games, the best players are supposed to rise to the top. Howard has made this top-five list in two games this season. Which two games were those? Oregon and Penn State, Ohio State's two biggest games of the season.PFF's WEEKLY TOP 5 BUCKEYES
| GAME | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Akron | DE Caden Curry (83.9) | DT Tyleik Williams (81.8) | DE Jack Sawyer (81.2) | CB Denzel Burke (78.5) | S Lathan Ransom (77.8) |
| WMU | RB Quinshon Judkins (92.6) | QB Devin Brown (89.1) | LB Cody Simon (86.3) | DE Jack Sawyer (85.2) | DT Ty Hamilton (83.2) |
| Marshall | G Donovan Jackson (86.6) | OT George Fitzpatrick (86.3) | RB TreVeyon Henderson (85.3) | OT Zen Michalski (84.5) | RB Quinshon Judkins (79.7) |
| MSU | TE Bennett Christian (84.6) | WR Jeremiah Smith (80.0) | S Caleb Downs (79.6) | CB Jordan Hancock (79.1) | WR Emeka Egbuka (76.8) |
| Iowa | DT Ty Hamilton (91.3) | DE Jack Sawyer (89.3) | DT Tyleik Williams (86.6) | WR Emeka Egbuka (76.3)* | C Seth McLaughlin (76.3)* |
| Oregon | S Lathan Ransom (78.0) | QB Will Howard (75.2) | WR Emeka Egbuka (74.5) | DE JT Tuimoloau (73.8) | S Caleb Downs (73.2) |
| Nebraska | WR Carnell Tate (80.7) | OT Josh Fryar (77.7) | CB Jordan Hancock (76.5) | TE Bennett Christian (75.0) | G Donovan Jackson (74.5) |
| PSU | CB Davison Igbinosun (78.0) | RB TreVeyon Henderson (77.9) | LB Cody Simon (76.9) | DE JT Tuimoloau (74.6) | QB Will Howard (74.3) |
| *Egbuka and McLaughlin tied for 4th |
The Bottom Five
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Trevi
Hall of Fame
Nearly 10 Million People Watched Ohio State Earn Its Eighth Straight Win Over Penn State
Ohio State’s 20-13 win over Penn State was one of the most-watched games of the 2024 college football season, drawing 9.94 million viewers on FOX.www.elevenwarriors.com
Nearly 10 Million People Watched Ohio State Earn Its Eighth Straight Win Over Penn State
Nearly 10 million people tuned in to watch Ohio State earn its eighth straight win over Penn State.
FOX Sports announced Wednesday that an audience of 9.94 million viewers tuned in to watch the Buckeyes’ 20-13 victory over the Nittany Lions.
Yep. That game certainly should have been a night game to make sure they had a big audience.
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bigdog3300
The G.O.A.T.
When Styles doesn't think and just reacts, he's a game changer. I'm not sure what it is, he shows flashes of doing it consistently (MSU game) and then turns around the next game and hesitates. I have to remind myself though that he's, A) 19 years old still, and B) changing positions. I have unfair expectations for him right now because of the talent he has.
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