Hopefully that is the viral version of its Millenial generation and it' so fucked up it takes down the entire species forever.
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Hopefully that is the viral version of its Millenial generation and it' so fucked up it takes down the entire species forever.
3 words for the OSU: Stop The Run!
Ibrahim is the main weapon for Minny, force them to throw. And then hope that Barnes and Coombs have coached up the DBs
Ibrahim is the main weapon for Minny, force them to throw. And then hope that Barnes and Coombs have coached up the DBs
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Honor&Glory
Paper,Rock, Scissors, Lizard, Spock!
Minnesota is going to score. That online and running game is too good and too experienced not to score. I see this game playing out like the season opener at Indiana in JK’s freshman year. Bucks win but it will be high scoring and maybe a tad frustrating.
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Buckeye86
I do not choose to discuss it
My prognostication is that if Ohio State plays well, we crush every team on the schedule prior to the playoffs.
If the team doesn’t play well, the possibilities are infinite as to how exactly that plays out on the field and what kind of game it will be.
If the team doesn’t play well, the possibilities are infinite as to how exactly that plays out on the field and what kind of game it will be.
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bukIpower
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Exactly the game I've always thought of... At halftime many buckeye fans will be wondering how Minnesota is having success and there will be some worry in that. Then when the season is over and the gophers are like 8-4 we'll understand that this was a very good team.
Which btw that running game they have really sets up their RPO pass game (I guarantee that many of us will wonder why we can't stop their slant passes).
I fully anticipate that this game will be more difficult than the Oregon game. Oregon is good on defense but teams have to have success on offense against us to have a shot.
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IDK, if OSU can force Minny to be one dimensional, I don't see it being close. No matter how good a RB and OL is, if the defense knows that you can't pass(and it will be difficult with 1 of their starters being injured) and only have the running game, it makes you essentially neutered. It'll be interesting to see Ibrahim in the 2nd half when he's getting pummeled every series
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Also entirely possible that, in spite of a good OL, they can't run the ball because Ohio State's DL has realized their potential all the way across the front. Good is good until it goes against great. Then it's only good for 3-and-out.
But yeah, if this doesn't roll out like the 2014 B1G CCG, let's all remember that Minnie might actually be good this year.
By the way, 8-4 would be a good goal for Minnie. In 1999 they were 8-4 in a year in which they played the Buckeyes (the Buckeyes gave them one of those losses in what was a down year for the Buckeyes). They have had a better record in a season in which they played the Buckeyes exactly zero times since 1940 (they were 8-0 National Champs in '40).
Even if you ignore the fact that the Buckeyes are on the schedule this year, 8-4 is not a bad goal. That would mean the Gophers were better than 8-4 in 2 years out of 3, which they haven't done since 1962. Murray Warmath was one of the better coaches in their history (or perhaps was fortunate to be coaching at a time when traditional conference powers were in a lull). He had 2 loss seasons in 60, 61, 62 and 67.
After Warmath departed in 1971, Minnesota went through 5 coaches (including Lou Holtz) who never won more than 2/3 of their games in a season. It didn't happen until Glen Mason went 10-3 in 2003. Thirty Five years had come and gone without a record better than 8-4 (though Mason had hit that exact number in 1999).
Another dozen years would come and go with no Gopher HC repeating the feat. Then Tracy Claeys led them to 9-4 in 2016. Then the Boat Rower did it in 2019, the first time it had happened twice in four years since 1962, which brings us back where we started.
So for Fleck to give them 2 seasons of winning > 2/3 of their games in 3 years, and with one of those years being one in which they played the Buckeyes; that would cement him as their best coach since the glory years of Bernie Bierman.
How glorious would it be if the first northern B1G team to return to glory was Minnesota, rather than some other B1G team that begins with the same 2 letters? Fortunately, for the Gophers if not for us, a return to glory for them need not include a victory over Ohio State.
Fun Fact: Bernie Bierman, by far the greatest coach in their history, was immediately succeeded by Wes Fesler. The same Wes Fesler that immediately preceded Woody Hayes.
But yeah, if this doesn't roll out like the 2014 B1G CCG, let's all remember that Minnie might actually be good this year.
By the way, 8-4 would be a good goal for Minnie. In 1999 they were 8-4 in a year in which they played the Buckeyes (the Buckeyes gave them one of those losses in what was a down year for the Buckeyes). They have had a better record in a season in which they played the Buckeyes exactly zero times since 1940 (they were 8-0 National Champs in '40).
Even if you ignore the fact that the Buckeyes are on the schedule this year, 8-4 is not a bad goal. That would mean the Gophers were better than 8-4 in 2 years out of 3, which they haven't done since 1962. Murray Warmath was one of the better coaches in their history (or perhaps was fortunate to be coaching at a time when traditional conference powers were in a lull). He had 2 loss seasons in 60, 61, 62 and 67.
After Warmath departed in 1971, Minnesota went through 5 coaches (including Lou Holtz) who never won more than 2/3 of their games in a season. It didn't happen until Glen Mason went 10-3 in 2003. Thirty Five years had come and gone without a record better than 8-4 (though Mason had hit that exact number in 1999).
Another dozen years would come and go with no Gopher HC repeating the feat. Then Tracy Claeys led them to 9-4 in 2016. Then the Boat Rower did it in 2019, the first time it had happened twice in four years since 1962, which brings us back where we started.
So for Fleck to give them 2 seasons of winning > 2/3 of their games in 3 years, and with one of those years being one in which they played the Buckeyes; that would cement him as their best coach since the glory years of Bernie Bierman.
How glorious would it be if the first northern B1G team to return to glory was Minnesota, rather than some other B1G team that begins with the same 2 letters? Fortunately, for the Gophers if not for us, a return to glory for them need not include a victory over Ohio State.
Fun Fact: Bernie Bierman, by far the greatest coach in their history, was immediately succeeded by Wes Fesler. The same Wes Fesler that immediately preceded Woody Hayes.
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The Fun Fact that I ended the last post with is a fact that, I believe, indicates why the programs diverged after that point in time.
Paul Brown gave Ohio State fans a brief taste of glory, giving them their first National Championship in 1942.
Bernie Bierman had given the Gophers 5 National Championships from 1935 to 1941.
Both men left their respective schools to join the armed forces during World War II. The military at that time took athletics seriously and saw the fielding of winning teams as a morale booster and critical to the war effort. To that end, they employed Brown to do what he did best. He was the coach of the football team of the Great Lakes Naval Air Station.
Bierman returned to Minnesota and coached through the 1950 season, though it seems he pretty much mailed his last year in.
Ohio State expected Brown to come back, but Brown accepted $17,500/year "in fairness to my family" to coach Cleveland's professional football team. This was an unheard of sum at the time.
Following Brown then, the Buckeyes hired Carroll Widdoes. In 1946, the Buckeyes promoted OC Paul Bixler to HC, demoting Widdoes to the OC position. This didn't work out, the pair were fired, and Ohio State would thereafter be known as The Graveyard of Coaches (even before hiring Fesler).
Fesler took over a struggling team and turned it into a > 0.500 club, but in 4 seasons never beat TTUN. So he was, of course, fired.
And here's the point:
A guy who was not good enough for a school with one NC in their history was deemed worthy of replacing a multi-NC coach by one of the entrenched powers of the time.
Ohio State and Minnesota had different standards.
Ohio State and Minnesota have lived up to those standards ever since.
Is it OK to have high standards?
Yes. All day, every day, YES.
That means that seeing the team not reach those standards can be frustrating.
That's OK too.
So sure, let's keep our composure and not bad-mouth players and coaches when things aren't going all 2014 B1G CCG out there.
But never apologize for high standards.
Never.
Paul Brown gave Ohio State fans a brief taste of glory, giving them their first National Championship in 1942.
Bernie Bierman had given the Gophers 5 National Championships from 1935 to 1941.
Both men left their respective schools to join the armed forces during World War II. The military at that time took athletics seriously and saw the fielding of winning teams as a morale booster and critical to the war effort. To that end, they employed Brown to do what he did best. He was the coach of the football team of the Great Lakes Naval Air Station.
Bierman returned to Minnesota and coached through the 1950 season, though it seems he pretty much mailed his last year in.
Ohio State expected Brown to come back, but Brown accepted $17,500/year "in fairness to my family" to coach Cleveland's professional football team. This was an unheard of sum at the time.
Following Brown then, the Buckeyes hired Carroll Widdoes. In 1946, the Buckeyes promoted OC Paul Bixler to HC, demoting Widdoes to the OC position. This didn't work out, the pair were fired, and Ohio State would thereafter be known as The Graveyard of Coaches (even before hiring Fesler).
Fesler took over a struggling team and turned it into a > 0.500 club, but in 4 seasons never beat TTUN. So he was, of course, fired.
And here's the point:
A guy who was not good enough for a school with one NC in their history was deemed worthy of replacing a multi-NC coach by one of the entrenched powers of the time.
Ohio State and Minnesota had different standards.
Ohio State and Minnesota have lived up to those standards ever since.
Is it OK to have high standards?
Yes. All day, every day, YES.
That means that seeing the team not reach those standards can be frustrating.
That's OK too.
So sure, let's keep our composure and not bad-mouth players and coaches when things aren't going all 2014 B1G CCG out there.
But never apologize for high standards.
Never.
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It's not that I'm doubting Morgan. As much as I'm believing in our defense and their depth.
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I think most here are much more knowledgeable than the average fan.
Most here probably know that Tanner Morgan and P.J. Fleck gave Minnesota their first 11-win season since 1904 just two years ago.
Many of them also know that the talent gap between Ohio State and Minnesota is such that the Buckeyes should still win by double digits and their only trepidation is with Ohio State's inexperience at QB. Tanner's fine and all, but his experience doesn't concern me. Stroud's does.
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