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Game Thread tOSU at Illinois, Sat Oct 2, Noon ET, BTN

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I'll always take a win and Big Ten announcers = awful. I'm convinced Chris Martin has never played football - wind is REALLY important. Also, there's a reason why neither Illinois nor Ohio State really ever aired the ball out.
 
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Gatorubet;1784162; said:
Nice conference win guys. I think playing for the wind was a good call with a questionable (injury wise) TP. That said, playing a few more games like that could win you the Big-10 title and a #3 BCS ranking at year's end.

Even if you disagree with what voters want to see, they want to see you dominate and can punish you in the polls for not getting style points. This was a one score game for all but a few minutes. With the Pac-10 teams putting up points, and the extra bump the press gives the SEC after our four straight BCSNCs, you being #1 or #2 at the end is not a given by any means. It will continue to be a threat that you might get jumped if you have some more - non-spectacular shall we say - close wins. Yeah, 2002, I know. But the situation is different this year with an undefeated, ABC championed Boise State, and maybe an undefeated TCU, and maybe an undefeated SEC and a Pac-10 team too could be an issue down the road. Hell, if Bama or UF win the SEC CG after an epic game today a one loss SEC team might slide by you if you falter down the stretch if the Big-10 is deemed to be in a down year by the talking heads, through no fault of tOSU.

But I am often puzzled when Tress does not unleash the talent y'all have in certain situations. I think that a young OC with a more innovative set of plays - coupled with your beast of a defense and Tress' generalship - would be able to light up the points.
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If this is the rare year in which there are several undefeated teams at the end of the year, this might be the case. Otherwise, no way. Personally, I don't care at all about poll rankings at this point in the season. We win at Wisconsin, at Iowa, with our win over at Miami and we're in. There won't be two other teams with a better resume. Also, most pollsters will not have watched this whole game and while 24-13 isn't an epic beatdown, it also isn't a squeaker. If they look deeper, they'll that tOSU found a way to win while their start QB was hobbled, which still makes us look good.

Also, if anyone upsets Bama, we're in the poll position and then we'll have to drop two places to be out. If Bama runs the table, then no one else in the SEC will be a challenge. Boise has shot their load. I'd put good vMoney on no one in the PAC 10 running the table. If that does happen and it's anyone besides Oregon, there is probably too much ground to make up to jump us and if it is Oregon we have the benefit of the doubt since we beat them last year.

I think we're sitting in a pretty good position. Going for style points is more likely to cost us one of these games than put us in the NCG.
 
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Zander42;1784222; said:
If this is the rare year in which there are several undefeated teams at the end of the year, this might be the case. Otherwise, no way. Personally, I don't care at all about poll rankings at this point in the season. We win at Wisconsin, at Iowa, with our win over at Miami and we're in. There won't be two other teams with a better resume. Also, most pollsters will not have watched this whole game and while 24-13 isn't an epic beatdown, it also isn't a squeaker. If they look deeper, they'll that tOSU found a way to win while their start QB was hobbled, which still makes us look good.

Also, if anyone upsets Bama, we're in the poll position and then we'll have to drop two places to be out. If Bama runs the table, then no one else in the SEC will be a challenge. Boise has shot their load. I'd put good vMoney on no one in the PAC 10 running the table. If that does happen and it's anyone besides Oregon, there is probably too much ground to make up to jump us and if it is Oregon we have the benefit of the doubt since we beat them last year.

I think we're sitting in a pretty good position. Going for style points is more likely to cost us one of these games than put us in the NCG.
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Nice Post..

I would like to add that the national debate ignores defense completely. The bucks stand to have another top ten Defense. I
f the Offense ends up as good as I think it can, and the O line picks up where it left off in that last drive.. the Bucks end up in Glendale.
 
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Gatorubet;1784162; said:
Nice conference win guys. I think playing for the wind was a good call with a questionable (injury wise) TP. That said, playing a few more games like that could win you the Big-10 title and a #3 BCS ranking at year's end.

Even if you disagree with what voters want to see, they want to see you dominate and can punish you in the polls for not getting style points. This was a one score game for all but a few minutes. With the Pac-10 teams putting up points, and the extra bump the press gives the SEC after our four straight BCSNCs, you being #1 or #2 at the end is not a given by any means. It will continue to be a threat that you might get jumped if you have some more - non-spectacular shall we say - close wins. Yeah, 2002, I know. But the situation is different this year with an undefeated, ABC championed Boise State, and maybe an undefeated TCU, and maybe an undefeated SEC and a Pac-10 team too could be an issue down the road. Hell, if Bama or UF win the SEC CG after an epic game today a one loss SEC team might slide by you if you falter down the stretch if the Big-10 is deemed to be in a down year by the talking heads, through no fault of tOSU.

But I am often puzzled when Tress does not unleash the talent y'all have in certain situations. I think that a young OC with a more innovative set of plays - coupled with your beast of a defense and Tress' generalship - would be able to light up the points.
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You make some valid points although I think you're giving the voters too much credit. Some of them want to see an opening to vote the way they WANT to vote, others vote the way they WANT to vote before the season and look for every reason to defend it. To wit, I give you Boise State in 2010. They vaulted LSU from #7 to #2 a couple years ago when two teams ahead of them lost on the last weekend - two teams, not 4 teams. Why? Because they had LSU #1 before the season and wanted to get them in the NC game to prove they were right all along.

At the end of the day no one can control the voters. Every time they vote a certain way there can always be a means to rationalize it. One time, it is scoring points. Another time, it is overcoming being an underdog. Most of the time, it's ego and defending their preconceptions from August.

The one thing that we can control is winning games. Tressel does that pretty often, even if it is not always flashy.
 
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Jake;1784235; said:
You make some valid points although I think you're giving the voters too much credit.

The one thing that we can control is winning games. Tressel does that pretty often, even if it is not always flashy.
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Totally agree, maybe voters from the SEC? As far as Tressel wins, he keeps things in focus and doesn't let the rankings effect the way he calls the game. Big Ten win first, rankings will be what they may. There are too many variables that could change the dynamic of CFB. <sarcasm> Hell, maybe UF will beat Bama in a "close one".
 
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Dryden;1784200; said:
I know a lot of people hate the Eric Collins/Chris Martin pairing, and they've called most of the games already this year, but the most glaring deficiency in that crew is that they apparently can't look at the flags, or see Tressel on the sidelines absolutely furious because the wind is messing up the part in his hair.

This is the second game this year these two nimrods have done where they question the running in one quarter and the slinging-it in the next.

Check the wind, fellas. Watch the kickoffs and punts. It's really not that hard, and I was watching it on TV in standard def yet still figured out what the deal was after seeing two kickoffs and two punts.
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The camera crew was horrific as well. Numerous times they missed the play.
 
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Gatorubet;1784162; said:
Nice conference win guys. I think playing for the wind was a good call with a questionable (injury wise) TP. That said, playing a few more games like that could win you the Big-10 title and a #3 BCS ranking at year's end.

Even if you disagree with what voters want to see, they want to see you dominate and can punish you in the polls for not getting style points. This was a one score game for all but a few minutes. With the Pac-10 teams putting up points, and the extra bump the press gives the SEC after our four straight BCSNCs, you being #1 or #2 at the end is not a given by any means. It will continue to be a threat that you might get jumped if you have some more - non-spectacular shall we say - close wins. Yeah, 2002, I know. But the situation is different this year with an undefeated, ABC championed Boise State, and maybe an undefeated TCU, and maybe an undefeated SEC and a Pac-10 team too could be an issue down the road. Hell, if Bama or UF win the SEC CG after an epic game today a one loss SEC team might slide by you if you falter down the stretch if the Big-10 is deemed to be in a down year by the talking heads, through no fault of tOSU.

But I am often puzzled when Tress does not unleash the talent y'all have in certain situations. I think that a young OC with a more innovative set of plays - coupled with your beast of a defense and Tress' generalship - would be able to light up the points.
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That cagey Tressel is up to his old tricks, again! Purposely keeping the game close to test his troops! :smash:
 
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The wind was obviously pretty bad by that fieldgoal and all the kicks. That the announcers were blind to it was a mystery. However once we started running off tackle instead of up the middle all the time they were unable to stop our run game.
 
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