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"Top Senior" / NFL Lists (Is Troy Smith an NFL QB?)

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Gentlemen

Smith is a QB. He's going top 10.

Anyone that beats scUM 3x is going in the top 10.

And he should win the Heisman too. It's a battle between Teddy and Troy Smith.

Troy Smith is going to win the Heisman barring major disaster. He's a legend and true leader. I can't believe no one here sees it.

:oh: :io:
 
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Troy Smith has improved over the last half of the season, game to game, more than anyone I've ever seen before. He went from bumbling and blowing the game against Penn State to dominating Notre Dame and making them look like a high school team.


Smith has adequate size to play in the NFL, and his accuracy and leadership has improved tremendously as of late, and will only get better as he steps into next year as "the man" and the full-time starter. But besides Troy Smith's great athleticism and talent, he also has the "it" factor. The way he calmly led us back against Michigan, on two key late-game drives, and spun from defenders, made the tough passes, and led the offense down the field to victory was damn near legendary stuff. Not to mention he followed that performance by not only dominating ND in every way, but also towards the end he flashed his brilliance by getting the tough 1st downs to seal the victory.


Add all of that with his much improved attitude and leadership, I think that TS will be a special player.
 
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I believe Drew Brees is listed at 6 ft (I know he's irrelevant to TS, but he's a pretty solid QB, that isn't that big of a guy).

Troy Smith is a much better athlete, and has a very good arm, and not to forget, he's listed at 6'1."

As for complaining and bitching on where he'll go in the 2007 NFL Draft, let's just get back to the topic of TS bringing home another National Championship to Columbus.
 
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Troy Smith will not be a first day pick, unless he absolutely unloads this year. I don't how he projects in the NFL. Maybe a third down back or a 3rd or 4th receiver.

He could put up insane numbers at the combine, but look where that got Kudla.

He's not tall enough for teams to risk a first day pick on. He'll get a shot somewhere. But not as a high draft pick.
 
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scooter1369 said:
Troy Smith will not be a first day pick, unless he absolutely unloads this year. I don't how he projects in the NFL. Maybe a third down back or a 3rd or 4th receiver.

He could put up insane numbers at the combine, but look where that got Kudla.

He's not tall enough for teams to risk a first day pick on. He'll get a shot somewhere. But not as a high draft pick.
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Have you read my post? I posted the sizes of some of the starting QB's in the league and they're all pretty much the same as Smith. As I've said before, if he doesn't make it it won't be because of his size. The key will be his decision-making ability. I know that's a pretty obvious statement but it's more important than his size or 40. I think he'll be a much better decision-maker than Vince Young was and that'll get him into the top 2 rounds. Look at Kellen Clemens. He improved his decision-making dramatically and even coming off a broken ankle he still got selected in the 2nd round. Plus, Kellen's only an inch taller, weighs less, and is slower than Smith. He also played in a conference with mediocre at best defenses.
 
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OregonBuckeye said:
Have you read my post? I posted the sizes of some of the starting QB's in the league and they're all pretty much the same as Smith. As I've said before, if he doesn't make it it won't be because of his size. The key will be his decision-making ability. I know that's a pretty obvious statement but it's more important than his size or 40. I think he'll be a much better decision-maker than Vince Young was and that'll get him into the top 2 rounds. Look at Kellen Clemens. He improved his decision-making dramatically and even coming off a broken ankle he still got selected in the 2nd round. Plus, Kellen's only an inch taller, weighs less, and is slower than Smith. He also played in a conference with mediocre at best defenses.
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You posted some starting QB's, half of them were low draft picks or not drafted at all. Didn't say he couldn't succeed. Just said he's not an early draft pick.
 
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scooter1369 said:
You posted some starting QB's, half of them were low draft picks or not drafted at all. Didn't say he couldn't succeed. Just said he's not an early draft pick.
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I guess I took it like that when you said " I don't how he projects in the NFL. Maybe a third down back or a 3rd or 4th receiver." And a few of those guys were high draft choices. For the record, I consider a high draft choice going in the first 2 rounds. I don't know if he'll ever be an NFL quarterback but I think he has a decent shot as long as he's given a few years to learn the system. Then again, I don't know how likely that'll be. Most QB's are only given 3 years max before they're tossed aside.
 
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tibor75 said:
Uh, Is Troy Smith the junior as good as Vince Young, junior? Sure. Is Troy Smith, the junior, as good as Vince Young, senior? not even close. which maybe explains why Smith didn't make the list...and why Young didn't either. If Smith is as great as Young next year he'll be up there. But you can't put him as a top 10 senior pick right now unless he has major improvement.
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are you done yet? good. first off, you have no idea what you're talking about. FYI, Vince Young was a JUNIOR in 2005, which is why he wasn't on the TOP TEN SENIORS list. your analogy is all wrong. if you want to compare the two, you'd have to compare Troy's Junior stats to Young's Sophomore stats, since Krenzel started the whole '03 season. as it stands, since VY took over midway through '03, the comparison is definitely relevant:

2003: VY was 84-143 for 1155 yards at 58.7% with 6 TDs, 7 INTS, and a 130.64 rating
2004: TS was 68-122 for 896 yards at 55.7% with 8 TDs, 3 INTS, and a 134.15 rating
VY had more yards, and a better %, but Troy's MUCH better TD/INT ratio gets the nod.
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</td></tr></tbody></table>2004: VY was 148-250 for 1849 yards at 59.2% with 12 TDs, 11 INTs and a 128.37 rating
2005: TS was 149-237 for 2282 yards at 62.9% with 16 TDs, 4 INTs with a 162.66 rating.
clearly advantage Troy. this is not even subject for debate.

2005:VY was 212-325 for 3036 yards at 65.2% with 26 TDs, 10 INTs with a 163.95 rating.

considering the fact that Troy has literally put up better stats relative to VY through their first two seasons as starters, it is no small stretch to think that he would continue that trend through his third year as a starter. as it stands, if Troy does continue that trend in '06, it would stand to reason that he should be at least considered for that list, especially when taking into account the fact that VY was the #3 overall pick.

thanks for playing.
 
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The only argument against him I've seen so far is his size and he's not even that small! He's bigger than Mike Vick and a much much better passer than Vick was in college. Sure Vick has way more speed but Troy is a better overall QB because he's getting good at knowing when to run. To not include him in that list makes zero sense to me.
 
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Did anybody happen to watch the NFL network when the steelers drafted Holmes? They were showing clips of Holmes and Mike Mayock kept talking about how good the passes were that Troy was throwing.

With all of his ability and talent, Troy will be a 1st rounder.
 
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I have to agree with Tibs on this one.

As much as I love Troy Smith and think he's one hell of a QB, his size is what's going to kill him.

I don't know what he's listed at height-wise, probably 6-0 to 6-1 but I saw him up close at the Indiana game this past year and he's lucky if he's 5-11.

Have there been short QB's in the past that succeeded, yes, Doug Flutie comes to mind but they have been few and far between.

With D-Lineman and O-lineman getting taller, it becomes necessary for the QB's height to progress upward as well when moving up to the league.

I would love to see Troy go in the first round but highly doubt it, guessing mid-rounder at best.

I do agree that Brady Quinn will probably be the first pick in the draft next year, he's got all of the prototypical measurements and stats.

What I was most impressed with this year was his toughness and grit. That kid really played hard while QB'ing a team that overachieved.
 
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OregonBuckeye said:
Have you read my post? I posted the sizes of some of the starting QB's in the league and they're all pretty much the same as Smith. As I've said before, if he doesn't make it it won't be because of his size. The key will be his decision-making ability. I know that's a pretty obvious statement but it's more important than his size or 40. I think he'll be a much better decision-maker than Vince Young was and that'll get him into the top 2 rounds. Look at Kellen Clemens. He improved his decision-making dramatically and even coming off a broken ankle he still got selected in the 2nd round. Plus, Kellen's only an inch taller, weighs less, and is slower than Smith. He also played in a conference with mediocre at best defenses.
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To be brutally honest name 1 good defense that Troy has played well against? IMO Troy has only played against 3 good defenses Iowa (2004), Texas (2005), and Penn St (2005). On the bright side we don't see any good defenses (except for maybe Texas) this season so he should be primed for a big year. I will be surprised if Troy goes on the first day next year.
 
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