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Why don't we just settle this on the field and open the gates with a playoff?

Instead of even scheduling games the regular season will be a real playoff--like so many BCS favoring pundits declare it already.

It will be great, we'll playoff to determine the winner of the Big 10. Then we'll be seeded to determine the winner of a region. Then we'll eventually have a National champion.

This way we settle it on the field once and for all.

You know what? LSU opens the season against Kentucky and they only play one game that year. Wouldn't that be great?
 
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Nutriaitch;1035784; said:
OSU opens with Illinois and also only plays one game.
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That might be a valid point if I was whining about how we conduct our regular season, but I'm not. See the playoff thread if you want to know what I think needs changed in college football. The uproar caused by the questionable determination of a conference champion is only a faint whisper when compared to the way we select a national champion.

Besides, you guys are only mad because you think its unfair you have to play a championship game and we don't. Life is unfair. We've recovered from not winning outright Big 10 titles. Not going to a championship game you think you deserve a chance at is a horse of another color.
 
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sluTiger;1034901; said:
For what it is worth. LSU is SEC champs which is decided on the field in head-to-head matchup. The National Championship game is a popularity contest. The figure skating selection process of who gets a shot at the crystal sucks. Historically, SEC schools look to that championship before the NC. I will never say that an SEC championship is not a worthy accomplishment.
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You're whining to the wrong audience. If you have such strong feelings about conference championships, write a letter to your school's president or A.D. It isn't our fault that LSU's officials and their counterparts at other SEC schools are more concerned about lining their pockets with cash from the SECCG.
 
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kn1f3party;1035792; said:
Besides, you guys are only mad because you think its unfair you have to play a championship game and we don't.
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I don't think it's unfair. I just think that the CG's are good for college football. The thing is, it's easy for SEC fans to say "just add teams to get to 12 and have one" because we're already there. Big 10 and Pac-10 fans don't want to do that. They think we should change to the way they do it. But that would mean either kicking teams out of the SEC or playing only 1 OOC game per year.
It's a preference thing, not a fairness issue IMO. I like the CG's, because they have a "playoff feel" to them.

IronBuckI;1035819; said:
We both go to the NCG, because everyone either has 2 losses or is Kansas or Hawaii.
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I didn't really mean this year specifically. I just used this year's schedule, because I know y'all didn't play Iowa. Just meant that any given year, there are 2 conf. opponents y'all don't play. I don't think it's mathematically possible for 3 Big Ten teams to go unbeaten, but 2 is possible every year. I don't know how y'all tiebreakers work, which is why I asked how would it be decided (assuming neither team is going to the BCS CG).
 
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LightningRod;1035832; said:
Method to Determine Big Ten Conference Automatic Representative to Bowl Championship Series
5. If there is still a tie, the most recent team earning BCS automatic selection shall be eliminated.
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IMO, this is not a good rule. Previous seasons should have no bearing on the outcome of the current one. How happy would OSU fans be it came down to this, and y'all were left out, because y'all have the most recent Big Ten title? It's like your penalizing a team for being consistently good, and rewarding a team for having an upstart once in a decade season.
 
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DaddyBigBucks;1035838; said:
AFC is half of the NFL


While SEC fans might think of the SEC as being half of college football...
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Let me clarify a little more.

The Pats DIVISION is the AFC east. Pats play everyone in the AFC East (but not everyone in AFC). Winner of division gets into the playoffs (6 game playoff), to determine CONFERENCE champion. CONFERENCE champ gets automatic bowl berth (Super Bowl in this instance).

LSU's DIVISION is the SEC West. LSU plays everyone in SEC West (but not everyone in SEC). Winner of division goes to the playoff (1 game playoff), to determine CONFERENCE champion. CONFERENCE champion gets automatic Bowl berth (Sugar Bowl, sometime NCG).


Only difference is that the winner of the AFC is guaranteed a shot at the Title. The SEC champ is eligible, but it's not guaranteed.
 
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Nutriaitch;1035833; said:
I don't think it's unfair. I just think that the CG's are good for college football. The thing is, it's easy for SEC fans to say "just add teams to get to 12 and have one" because we're already there. Big 10 and Pac-10 fans don't want to do that. They think we should change to the way they do it. But that would mean either kicking teams out of the SEC or playing only 1 OOC game per year.
It's a preference thing, not a fairness issue IMO. I like the CG's, because they have a "playoff feel" to them.
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There are other things to take in to consideration as well. We won't just willy nilly add a team to serve a purpose. The school would have to benefit the Big 10 in all areas, including academic, and aside from Notre Dame we don't have many options right now to even think about it.

Nutriaitch;1035843; said:
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IMO, this is not a good rule. Previous seasons should have no bearing on the outcome of the current one. How happy would OSU fans be it came down to this, and y'all were left out, because y'all have the most recent Big Ten title? It's like your penalizing a team for being consistently good, and rewarding a team for having an upstart once in a decade season.
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I don't think this rule, and the statistical improbability of it, is any less intelligent than lets say Oklahoma going undefeated in the regular season, choking to Kansas State in the CG, and still proceeding to the BCS title game only to get their ass handed to them.
 
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kn1f3party;1035858; said:
There are other things to take in to consideration as well. We won't just willy nilly add a team to serve a purpose. The school would have to benefit the Big 10 in all areas, including academic, and aside from Notre Dame we don't have many options right now to even think about it.
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Oh, I understand completely, which is why I've never been one to say the Big Ten "should" do it. Would I like to see the day where all conferences have a CG, and only the winners of those game are elligible for the NC? Hell yeah. I honestly think that could be the 1st step toward a playoff type system.


kn1f3party;1035858; said:
I don't think this rule, and the statistical improbability of it, is any less intelligent than lets say Oklahoma going undefeated in the regular season, choking to Kansas State in the CG, and still proceeding to the BCS title game only to get their ass handed to them.
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I agree that this too is a dumb rule. I hat that crutch they use "not all conf. decide their champ the same way" as a reason not to keep a conference runner up out of the title game. Fuck that! Let them name their champ however they want to (I'm a fan of the CG), and if you ain't the champ, you can't play fo NC.
 
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Nutriaitch;1035833; said:
I don't think it's unfair. I just think that the CG's are good for college football. The thing is, it's easy for SEC fans to say "just add teams to get to 12 and have one" because we're already there. Big 10 and Pac-10 fans don't want to do that. They think we should change to the way they do it. But that would mean either kicking teams out of the SEC or playing only 1 OOC game per year.
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This Big 10 fan doesn't think the SEC should change how you choose the conference champion. I think the CCG will more often knock a team out of the BCS title game than help them get in.

If the Big 12 didn't have a CCG, the BCS title game would have been Mizzou and tOSU and the SEC fans would be bitching again.

And if West Virginia hadn't choked against Pitt, the only reason tOSU would have made the title game would have been the Big 12 CCG. I'm all for the ACC, Big 12, and SEC CCG games - it's another chance to knock somebody out of the top 2 BCS spots and open it up for tOSU.

And I only care about one thing - whatever's best for tSOU - if others think some conferences with title games and some without them isn't right, I don't give a shit.
 
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