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Herb Kirkstreit said:
Ohio State researchers have discovered the closest black hole to Earth, and it is among the smallest black holes ever discovered. Pretty cool.

Astronomers dub it “The Unicorn,” call it something special
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Ohio State's Astronomy and Astrophysics is no fucking joke. The last NRC doctoral program rankings had it tied for 8th with the University of Chicago. We have the largest ownership share of the massive Mt. Graham binocular telescope plus a huge allotment of time on a Southern Hemisphere telescope in Chile due to being a founding member in 1957 of the main university Astronomy organization (kind of like a specialized AAU for Astronomy & Astrophysics). Astronomy and Political Science are the two true rock star departments in the university right now, though there are probably 10-15 more in that next--top 15 to top 30--grouping.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Ohio State's Astronomy and Astrophysics is no fucking joke. The last NRC doctoral program rankings had it tied for 8th with the University of Chicago. We have the largest ownership share of the massive Mt. Graham binocular telescope plus a huge allotment of time on a Southern Hemisphere telescope in Chile due to being a founding member in 1957 of the main university Astronomy organization (kind of like a specialized AAU for Astronomy & Astrophysics). Astronomy and Political Science are the two true rock star departments in the university right now, though there are probably 10-15 more in that next--top 15 to top 30--grouping.
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Didn’t Education used to be ranked highly?
 
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Thump said:
Didn’t Education used to be ranked highly?
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Probably, but it's something that I don't pay attention to. What matters are the core Arts & Sciences departments plus the core professional schools: engineering, business, law and medicine. Law, fwiw, grossly under performs relative to the resources lavished on it. Education and Ag seem to be well respected, but they also strike me as legacy programs that really don't matter all that much to the university today.
 
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The Ohio State University and Marc Jacobs strike agreement over who gets to use the word 'THE'

After nearly three years of legal battles, two unlikely foes have come to an agreement over ownership of the most common word in the English language.

The Ohio State University said Friday it had reached an agreement with fashion designer Marc Jacobs that will allow both to use the trademark article "THE," on branded products if the US Patent and Trademark Office approves both requests.

The two groups filed a Consent to Register Agreement Friday and have agreed to suspend opposition proceedings while they await further rulings from the Patent and Trademark Office, a university spokesperson told Insider.

The bizarre saga dates back to 2019, when the US Patent and Trademark Office rejected the flagship university's bid to trademark the word, stylized in all capital letters on T-shirts and hats that the school said signifies its association with the college.

Part of the reason for the rejection?

Marc Jacobs had beat the institution to the ask; filing its own trademark request for the use of the word "the" on handbags and clothing nearly three months earlier

In a letter sent to the university attorney in September 2019, the office said it also turned down the school's request because the use of the word "is merely a decorative or ornamental feature," and not a clear signal of association with the university.

In March 2020, the university pleaded its case again, filing a "defense action" ahead of Jacobs' own appeal, asking the Patent and Trademark Office to reconsider its previous decision, Cleveland.com reported.

In its argument, the school said "THE" works to "protect the university's brand and trademarks because these assets hold significant value...by supporting our core academic mission of teaching and research." The university also said Jacobs' planned use of "THE" on handbags and knapsacks encroached on Ohio State's use of the word.

The university repeated similar arguments in a notice of opposition filed early Friday with the Patent Office's Trademark Trial and Appeal Board. In the filing, the university attempted to block Marc Jacobs' trademark filing over "THE," arguing Ohio State is the true owner of the article.

The filing argues that the "THE" Marc Jacobs is attempting to trademark so resembles Ohio State's "THE" as to be likely "to cause confusion, or cause mistake."

But later that afternoon, Rick Van Brimmer, Ohio State's assistant vice president for trademark licensing services, told The Columbus Dispatch that both groups are now saying there would be no confusion over the use of the word, according.

Entire article: https://www.insider.com/ohio-state-university-and-marc-jacobs-strike-agreement-over-use-of-the
 
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ScriptOhio said:


The Ohio State University and Marc Jacobs strike agreement over who gets to use the word 'THE'

After nearly three years of legal battles, two unlikely foes have come to an agreement over ownership of the most common word in the English language.

The Ohio State University said Friday it had reached an agreement with fashion designer Marc Jacobs that will allow both to use the trademark article "THE," on branded products if the US Patent and Trademark Office approves both requests.

The two groups filed a Consent to Register Agreement Friday and have agreed to suspend opposition proceedings while they await further rulings from the Patent and Trademark Office, a university spokesperson told Insider.

The bizarre saga dates back to 2019, when the US Patent and Trademark Office rejected the flagship university's bid to trademark the word, stylized in all capital letters on T-shirts and hats that the school said signifies its association with the college.

Part of the reason for the rejection?

Marc Jacobs had beat the institution to the ask; filing its own trademark request for the use of the word "the" on handbags and clothing nearly three months earlier

In a letter sent to the university attorney in September 2019, the office said it also turned down the school's request because the use of the word "is merely a decorative or ornamental feature," and not a clear signal of association with the university.

In March 2020, the university pleaded its case again, filing a "defense action" ahead of Jacobs' own appeal, asking the Patent and Trademark Office to reconsider its previous decision, Cleveland.com reported.

In its argument, the school said "THE" works to "protect the university's brand and trademarks because these assets hold significant value...by supporting our core academic mission of teaching and research." The university also said Jacobs' planned use of "THE" on handbags and knapsacks encroached on Ohio State's use of the word.

The university repeated similar arguments in a notice of opposition filed early Friday with the Patent Office's Trademark Trial and Appeal Board. In the filing, the university attempted to block Marc Jacobs' trademark filing over "THE," arguing Ohio State is the true owner of the article.

The filing argues that the "THE" Marc Jacobs is attempting to trademark so resembles Ohio State's "THE" as to be likely "to cause confusion, or cause mistake."

But later that afternoon, Rick Van Brimmer, Ohio State's assistant vice president for trademark licensing services, told The Columbus Dispatch that both groups are now saying there would be no confusion over the use of the word, according.

Entire article: https://www.insider.com/ohio-state-university-and-marc-jacobs-strike-agreement-over-use-of-the
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I don't know Marc Jacobs, and Im not an attorney, but I doubt he was alive in 1878 when the Ohio General Assembly passed a law changing the name to "the Ohio State University", so how can he trademark part of it over a century later?

Seems like he's just being a dick, trying to squeeze some cash out of tOSU.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Probably, but it's something that I don't pay attention to. What matters are the core Arts & Sciences departments plus the core professional schools: engineering, business, law and medicine. Law, fwiw, grossly under performs relative to the resources lavished on it. Education and Ag seem to be well respected, but they also strike me as legacy programs that really don't matter all that much to the university today.
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I have always been shocked by the Law School’s rankings.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Probably, but it's something that I don't pay attention to. What matters are the core Arts & Sciences departments plus the core professional schools: engineering, business, law and medicine. Law, fwiw, grossly under performs relative to the resources lavished on it. Education and Ag seem to be well respected, but they also strike me as legacy programs that really don't matter all that much to the university today.
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Of course, the law rankings are so deeply entrenched by things that are ultimately out of any individual institution’s control, so there is so little movement between the “tiers.” Moritz could have the same exact year and come out anywhere from 28-38 in the rankings, I just don’t get it. Looking past the pencil-pushers though, the OSU law faculty is top-20 caliber for sure.
 
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Thump is right. Back in the 70s, the Education faculty ranked 1st or 2nd nationally. The ranking was given as the reason to devote money to an expansion of their facilities instead of a new business school, which was cramped into Hagerty Hall then.
 
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Steve19 said:
Thump is right. Back in the 70s, the Education faculty ranked 1st or 2nd nationally. The ranking was given as the reason to devote money to an expansion of their facilities instead of a new business school, which was cramped into Hagerty Hall then.
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It was like Ag. I remember a prof of mine telling me that History and Political Science each had more undergraduate majors than the entire college of agriculture, yet state politics mandated that an absurd amount of money be lavished in ag's direction. It was an antiquated system that was undone by Gee. Generally, I consider Gee to be a guy who came in and reaped the benefits of the hard groundwork that Ed Jennings (double old fashioned full of bourbon in his hand) had laid and shamelessly take full credit for it. One thing he really did do was to finally put ag and ed in their places, and write in stone that Ohio State was not focused on preparing the next generation of farmers and teachers.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
It was like Ag. I remember a prof of mine telling me that History and Political Science each had more undergraduate majors than the entire college of agriculture, yet state politics mandated that an absurd amount of money be lavished in ag's direction. It was an antiquated system that was undone by Gee. Generally, I consider Gee to be a guy who came in and reaped the benefits of the hard groundwork that Ed Jennings (double old fashioned full of bourbon in his hand) had laid and shamelessly take full credit for it. One thing he really did do was to finally put ag and ed in their places, and write in stone that Ohio State was not focused on preparing the next generation of farmers and teachers.
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They are required to have an Ag College being a land grant institution.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Not saying it should be abolished. It's still an important part of the university from a grad-research perspective. It's just that it's been a long time since it was a key part of the overall university.
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Google says....
Based on 68 evaluation metrics, Ohio State University agriculture program ranks in Top 5 Agriculture Schools in USA and The Best Agriculture School in Ohio. Major competing agriculture colleges for this school are University of Illinois in Champaign and Pennsylvania State University in University Park.
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I'm not saying our ag program is bad or even mediocre. I am saying that times have changed, and it's no longer a core component of the university like it probably was in 1948 any more than ag is still a central part of Wisconsin, Illinois or Minnesota. Yes, it's always going to be part of the university and should be expected to be as excellent as possible. It shouldn't, however, suck up resources at a level that's not proportionate to its enrollment and overall importance.

Hell, if you really dig into the history of the university, the one constant from even before its founding was to keep ag in check and keep it from running the university. And that would have been at a time when exponentially more students were coming off of farms and often going back to them after graduating. That's why the university was put in Columbus instead of Springfield and why the AIT at Wooster was founded a few years after that.
 
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