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scarletmike
Researching the Magic!
Well, the administration (or more specifically, Drake) certainly isn't looking better the more that comes out. I wonder when a response will come from that side?
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Well, my experience with things "shaking out" over the long term for Presidents who take the "I'm making a statement" route out of the gate and keep doing it, is they don't shake out well. In the end, efforts to control the "culture" at Ohio State end up being rather counterproductive when it comes time to tally up the fundraising take. (Note to Penn State, these are the things trustees should be worrying about). Dear Dr. Drake, you're not in California anymore. Also, if you're thinking to yourself, "Being President of this University isn't a popularity contest," you've been grossly misinformed about the job description.
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Meh, Kirwan for example, got the message on his own, he realized he couldn't remake Ohio State in his image and went into a snit. As for the "powers that be" -- these are the same clowns that ran Gee out on a rail* for making jokes... I wouldn't count on them to do much of anything other than overreact to... well, just about anything.
*that might be overstating it, but, yeah.
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
AKAK pretty much hit the nail on the head with his last two posts. Long term, I don't see the school thriving as it has under Gee if Drake is left at the helm... And continues to act like this. Will not win over many $$$.
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Reality of OSU culture hitting Pres Drake in the face this week. He isn't at UC Irvine anymore. Fire all the deans you want ... but throw out the director of the marching band and out come the torches and pitchforks.
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lvbuckeye
Silver Surfer
I'm wondering how tF some douche from UC fucking Irvine was allowed to become the president of TOSU...
Aside: regarding Milgram, it's pretty intriguing to me that many 'teachers' continued to push the button. What does that say about them? Empathy can be a very strong emotion. Surely some of them were pushing the button against their will, right? Perhaps the assbackwardness of the whole thing makes a valid point? W/e off to read more about it...
Aside: regarding Milgram, it's pretty intriguing to me that many 'teachers' continued to push the button. What does that say about them? Empathy can be a very strong emotion. Surely some of them were pushing the button against their will, right? Perhaps the assbackwardness of the whole thing makes a valid point? W/e off to read more about it...
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If it was illegal, they would be charged. Cite the law he was breaking.
To play stupid and pretend it's not happening, that would be negligence. To be present in order to ensure nothing does happen is responsible. Marching around in your underwear isn't illegal. Jumping into a glorified pond isn't illegal. The Dispatch article relies utterly and entirely on the claim of a "hostile environment", which I find laughable and material to move this all into the pussification thread.
I also don't accept the claim that Waters was lackadaisical in dealing with transgressions. The report itself outlines him taking actions on several items, and the letters by members since have corroborated that he had actually done a lot to scale back what he inherited.
I doubt any such thing as "code red" exists. The Marine Corps is not like A Few Good Men, much more like Full Metal Jacket. There's perhaps a legal argument to be made there too, but it's not anywhere near as clear cut. And in any case, that's not what I was speaking of. The kind of things we did revolved more around skirting orders around liberty restrictions for nonrates, or technicalities dealing with ignorant staff ncos who don't take hazmat and haz waste regulations seriously.
The most egregious thing I ever witnessed was a SNCO changing the fault lights on a Radar's control panel to be all green for an FAA flight inspection required to begin operations.
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Yea pretty much how I read it as well...
They decided not to prosecute the rapist because "she just wanted to get on with her life"... but then 8 months after the rapist is expelled, the mom files a complaint getting Waters fired ?
There's some twisted logic in there. The mom is basically holding Waters responsible, even though he did the right thing. And the worst thing she can say is that he wasn't vocally empathetic enough? I hate to be cynical, but anytime you have 225 people and the kind of turnover rate experienced in a University organization... there are going to be sexual predators. Prosecute the sexual predators, not the staff -- unless you can actually provide an argument on how they enabled the predator ala Paterno.
This had nothing to do with Title IX and everything to do with her mom going vigilante on the wrong guy. Waters didn't rape her daughter.
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Onebuckfan
classof76
If Drake fired Waters just like he would've at Fresno he's an idiot. He should have went to the Board at least privately.
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Not prepared to make that leap, and some will argue it isn't necessarily bad since she did put an end to a lot of the more embarrassing ish that occurred every home game with a kick at 3:30 or later. Of course, she also spoiled the fun for all the responsible adults that can handle their booze, but it probably needed to occur anyway before something really bad went down. If the prior environment had existed into 2010 when Miami came to visit there would have been wild brawls everywhere given the way the Miami fans behaved the moment they stepped off the jetways at CMH.
What really grinds my gears is that after twenty years of Gee, Kirwan, Holbrook, Gee (again), and now Drake, plus Geiger and Gene, it's become plainly apparent the next person OSU hires should have CRISIS MANAGEMENT in big fucking letters at the top of their resume. Bold, underlined, italicized, 48-pt font.
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