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The Ohio State University Marching Band (TBDBITL)

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In the end I love the Band and its performances over 50 years..obviously what they have been doing works...I don't need to know how the sausage is made so to speak. If the Band Culture makes you uncomfortable don't participate and continue to play or Quit. If criminal acts are happening then its a different story.
 
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Dryden said:
Oh, and changing clothes on the bus is an issue? Seriously? Here's your choices:

1. Wear shorts and a t-shirt and voluntarily quick change in front of your peers before stepping off the bus.

2. Wear your button-up wool uniform for the 4+ hour crowded bus trip to East Lansing and be proud you were modest when you died from heat stroke.
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I wonder how thy got in TBDBITL without ever being in a Marching Band. Changing into uniforms on the bus was the norm. Girls just usually wore a long T-shirt (to cover the bottom region as they got dressed) and well guys just wore a T-shirt (because the uniforms got itchy if you didn't)
 
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Coqui said:
Hey! Don't forget about percussion, the most important part of any band.


(Drummer here in case you couldn't figure it out)
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Don't get your flamadiddles all in a wad. In 1960 - 61 I was the squad leader for the drum line of the Fairmont Dragons and an alternate for all of a week and a half of TBDBITL. There were over 90 of us trying out for a 10 man drum line with 7 returning from previous bands.
 
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jlb1705 said:
That's not what I'm arguing. The word "responsibility" was probably a poor choice on my part and I'm still having trouble articulating my point of view on this. The overall point I'm trying to get at (I think) is that this kind of adversarial relationship between students and administration over behavior has existed for centuries. The traditional role of administration is to regulate behavior of its students (for a wide variety of reasons that are not necessarily Puritanical) and the traditional role of students is to subvert the administration's efforts to curtail fun misbehavior. Of course students don't have a responsibility provide plausible deniability to the administration. What I'm really trying to say is that the two groups have different interests when it comes to this kind of behavior and that in a healthy campus culture that is both academically and socially stimulating the cat-and-mouse conflict between those two groups keeps things in balance for the most part.
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Thank you for clarifying your point, but, in my view, you're really justreinforcing my critique of it, as to the bold, indeed the role of the Administraion in this case isn't at all t regulate the behavior of its students, its to limit liabilty (by, firing, extreme regulation of the band director), but the reason for that, is the PC "police" which indeed, are a part of the long American tradition of imposing conformity of behavior for their own good.

Its just parsing out what really is one person's view of what comprises a "healthy campus culture that is both academically and socially stimulating"
 
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AKAK said:
Back to blaming it on porn, I see.
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If I were going for porn I'd have said single stroke roll...
Speaking of single stroke rolls, anyone else on here ever see and hear Buddy Rich do a roll with only one hand?

Now where were we? So the next director and staff will have how long to correct what? In 61 the song book was carried on without the aid of a written book, mimeographing being the messy business it was. Not printing the songs will not keep them out of the repertoire. Listing people by their nicknames in a document? That's an easy cure. Changing on the bus? I wonder why the band doesn't open up the locker rooms in French Field House and St. Johns to visiting bands and why other schools don't make similar arrangements. Captain Underpants. Gone. Sorry I missed that one, but in 61 it was all guys so what would be the point? Oh that's right, all band geeks were/are gay. Flying 69 and lap dance, OD, w/faked orgasm, one each. Gone.

Now comes the toughie, alcohol. Solutions? Hope that Ohio becomes the next state to legalize marijuana and let the kids smoke on the bus?

In the end, two years from now the parents of another prince or princess will be in the compliance office because their precious had to change clothes in the same locker room as an openly gay tuba player. K row spelled backwards is WOR K. (That was the song of the tuba row, K row)
 
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