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The heavens, stars, universe..

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I've often wondered why all these ancient buildings and world wonders were built seemingly to the stars.. how the ancients predicted so many things and time patterns from the heavens..

This thread is being made for everything related to such thoughts.. I'll begin to fill it up soon..

To start, heres some pictures from Hubble that really are awesome.. are we the only intelligent life out there? Did all of these things occur just because or is there a "G-d" who has made things?

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(keep in mind, these colors are used to enhance detail according to Hubble)
 
Considering the uncountable number of stars which exist in the universe, and the likelihood that there exists planets around them, I consider the idea that we are alone in this universe to be a possibility so remote so as to be absurd.

If I ever met an alien, my first question would be "Do you believe in a creator G-d?"

Of course, he'd look at me curiously, and I'd realize Aliens only speak English in the Movies.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1211372; said:
Considering the uncountable number of stars which exist in the universe, and the likelihood that there exists planets around them, I consider the idea that we are alone in this universe to be a possibility so remote so as to be absurd.

If I ever met an alien, my first question would be "Do you believe in a creator G-d?"

Of course, he'd look at me curiously, and I'd realize Aliens only speak English in the Movies.
"He" would still understand you because of the babel fish in his ear. :biggrin:

As for the topic of this thread? I agree with BKB. The odds that there are other forms of intelligent life is just too great to believe that we are the only ones. Not on topic though is the nearly equal odds that no intelligent life will ever create a way to travel the vastness of space so that we can actually meet.
 
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It has always seemed amazingly, ridiculously arrogant to me that some of us believe we are the only intelligent life in the entire vastness of an unmapped cosmos. The sheer size of the place, even only as much of it as we know, makes the idea of intelligent life, besides us, a random possibility at the very least.

If one believes in a creator god, it doesn't make sense whatsoever to believe that he did it once, he never did it again. If you like something, do you only do it once? :wink2:

Regarding the musing upon was it random, or was it created, I can only go so far as to say, I can't prove or disprove either one, so both are possibilities. Either extreme has its own flaws.
 
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OK! I'm going to tell you something more about my little town........again. :tongue2: Taos has a "Dark Skies" ordinance that doesn't allow businesses or private persons to have lights that detract from the beauty of observing our night skies. It seems like a small thing, but it's one of those unique things that make this a great place to live all year round. Taos sits at 7,200 ft above sea level and has no large industrial businesses to pollute the sky. Many people here own telescopes to view the night sky. Taos Ski Valley(9200ft) hosts several people with large telescopes every summer(we're talking $10-20 thousand scopes. This is free to all! It makes for a wonderful, family experience.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1211372; said:
Considering the uncountable number of stars which exist in the universe, and the likelihood that there exists planets around them, I consider the idea that we are alone in this universe to be a possibility so remote so as to be absurd.

If I ever met an alien, my first question would be "Do you believe in a creator G-d?"

Of course, he'd look at me curiously, and I'd realize Aliens only speak English in the Movies.

He'd reply:

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Bring me the One Ring!!
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1211372; said:
Considering the uncountable number of stars which exist in the universe, and the likelihood that there exists planets around them, I consider the idea that we are alone in this universe to be a possibility so remote so as to be absurd.
What, you mean these stars?

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BKB said:
If I ever met an alien, my first question would be "Do you believe in a creator G-d?"
I think that would be my first question too.. I wonder if animals have a concept of G-d

I'm gonna shift gears.. what do you more educated folks here think the pyramids were for?

The math is amazing..

  • Thirty times larger than the Empire State Building, the Pyramid's features are so large they can be seen from the Moon.
  • Its base covers 13.6 acres, each side being greater than five acres in area.
  • The oldest structure in existence, having been started 4,617 years ago, it is the sole remnant of the Seven Wonders of the World.
  • Only a solid stone mountain could endure the Pyramid's immense weight. And indeed, a flat solid granite mountain happens to be located just beneath the surface of the ground directly under the Pyramid.
  • It is built to face true North.
  • The Pyramid is located at the exact center of the Earth's land mass.
  • Since the Earth has enough land area to provide 3 billion possible building sites for the Pyramid, the odds of it's having been built where it is are 1 in 3 billion.
  • Like 20th century bridge designs, the Pyramid's cornerstones have balls and sockets built into them. Several football fields long, the Pyramid is subject to expansion and contraction movements from heat and cold, as well as earthquakes, settling, and other such phenomena
  • While the bulk of the Pyramid's core was constructed of 4,000- to 40,000-pound blocks of soft limestone, the outer layer of the Pyramid was made of a beautifully bright, protective layer of polished stone.
  • Amazingly, the outside surface stones are cut within 0.01 (1/100th) inch of perfectly straight and at nearly perfect right angles for all six sides. And they were placed together with an intentional gap between them of 0.02 inch. Modern technology cannot place such 20-ton stones with greater accuracy than those in the Pyramid.
  • Even more amazing is that the 0.02-inch gap was designed to allow space for glue to seal and hold the stones together. A white cement that connected the casing stones and made them watertight is still intact and stronger than the blocks that it joins.
  • Consider this: The height of the Pyramid's apex is 5,812.98 inches, and each side is 9,131 inches from corner to corner (in a straight line). If the circumference of the Pyramid is divided by twice its height (the diameter of a circle is twice the radius), the result is 3.14159, which just happens to be pi. Incredibly, this calculation is accurate to six digits. So the Pyramid is a square circle, and thus pi was designed into it 4,600 years ago.
  • Other numbers are also repeated throughout. Each of the Pyramids four walls, when measured as a straight line, are 9,131 inches, for a total of 36,524 inches. At first glance, this number may not seem significant, but move the decimal point over and you get 365.24. Modern science has shown us that the exact length of the solar year is 365.24 days.
  • The average height of land above sea level (Miami being low and the Himalayas being high), as can be measured only by modern-day satellites and computers, happens to be 5,449 inches. That is the exact height of the Pyramid.
  • All four sides of the Pyramid are very slightly and evenly bowed in, or concave. This effect, which cannot be detected by looking at the Pyramid from the ground, was discovered around 1940 by a pilot taking aerial photos to check certain measurements. As measured by today's laser instruments, all of these perfectly cut and intentionally bowed stone blocks duplicate exactly the curvature of the earth. The radius of this bow is equal to the radius of the Earth. This radius of curvature is what Newton had long been seeking.
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Muck;1212911; said:
I'd be wary about putting too much faith into them, most of those quotes come from a "aliens must have helped build the pyramids" essay.
:lol: I doubt any alien built the pyramids.. I'm curious as to what they were for..

Those numbers can be found in a lot of places.. and I think they came from Newtons obsession with the pyramids..

I also find it interesting that Hitler was obsessed with getting to the sub-structer of the pyramids

EDIT: I went back and pulled the page that these numbers came from and found this:

So far the message indicates that whoever built the Pyramid knew the Earth well: the length of the year, the radius of curvature, the standard measurement techniques, the average height of the continents, and the center of the land mass. They were able to consruct something that we still cannot construct today, and they were able to tie all these things together in this single structure. Were they extraterrestrial, or perhaps even supernatural? The answer is not yet clear. However, thus far we have examined only the outside of the Pyramid.

I'm gonna guess this is what you were talking about Muck - I wasn't interested in what the page said so much as I was finding the numbers on the pyramids that I've seen several times before.. again, the numbers can be found in a vareity of places but I understand what you were saying now.

The page goes on to say they believe God instructed people how to build it (like Noahs Ark) because of how advanced the structer is.. I disagree with this view but who the hell knows - one thing is certain - they are an amazing ancient artifact that we don't know the purpose to.
 
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