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THE GAME, tOSU at tCun, Sat. 11/25, 12pm ET, FOX

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lvbuckeye said:
I knew who Tressel was. I knew that Dantonio was Nick Saban's DC at Sparty. I knew that Day played and coached for Chip Kelley

Yeah. I DO know what will happen. 11 (maybe 12 wins) is Ryan Day's ceiling. He hits it every year. What happened to Nebraska when they fired their coach who hit his ceiling every year?
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Get your point but hard to be warm and fuzzy about Bo pelini.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
So the only options are Cooper or Bruce?

I reject that.
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This is the false dichotomy. There are likely many coaches who could meet the team goals and there are not just two options. Also, as others have pointed out, with the expansion of the playoffs yeah I much rather lose to Iowa and then be ass kickers by end of November and roll UM, win the B1G, and compete in the playoffs. Losing to UM should never be acceptable here.

Risk vs Reward. There is always risk in change. The potential rewards of beating UM, winning B1G, and winning national titles must be weighed against the risk of continuing with coaches who haven't met these objectives. Just the same as the rewards of winning 95% of your games must be weighed against the risk of not beating UM or winning B1G/competing for a national title.

Everyone will have their own opinions and world views.

osuvictory1 said:
The cheating did make a difference lol. It was a closely fought game. The past couple seasons it was clearly one sided.
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They will say the game was close because all the turmoil, not having their coach, losing their LB coach, etc etc etc you lost the right to use cheating as an excuse today. Unless you want to come off as a copium smoking bucknut.

I agree the cheating impacts things, but, that is now gone after today.
 
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knuckifyoubuck said:
This is the false dichotomy. There are likely many coaches who could meet the team goals and there are not just two options. Also, as others have pointed out, with the expansion of the playoffs yeah I much rather lose to Iowa and then be ass kickers by end of November and roll UM, win the B1G, and compete in the playoffs. Losing to UM should never be acceptable here.

Risk vs Reward. There is always risk in change. The potential rewards of beating UM, winning B1G, and winning national titles must be weighed against the risk of continuing with coaches who haven't met these objectives. Just the same as the rewards of winning 95% of your games must be weighed against the risk of not beating UM or winning B1G/competing for a national title.

Everyone will have their own opinions and world views.
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If anyone else wants to take the time to actually think it through and state it like this, then I am down for a conversation.

but just "NaMe SoMeOnE ElSe!! Garr" I soo fucking weak I can't help but direct my attention.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
I knew who Tressel was. I knew that Dantonio was Nick Saban's DC at Sparty. I knew that Day played and coached for Chip Kelley

Yeah. I DO know what will happen. 11 (maybe 12 wins) is Ryan Day's ceiling. He hits it every year. What happened to Nebraska when they fired their coach who hit his ceiling every year?
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I appreciate your argument and stance - the major difference between us and Nebraska is they've had all their titles won by two coaches, back to back coaches. Our titles have been won by four separate coaches. Not many more successful programs than ours. I'm a homer, but I think we are a top 3 program of all time and don't see us going full retard with the next coaches.
 
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