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Game Thread THE GAME: #1 Ohio State 42, #2 Michigan 39 (11/18/06)

scooter1369;664438; said:
Listening to 1460 earlier, one caller made an interesting point.

Lloyd Carr cannot win Saturday.

If scUM wins, the team rallied behind Bo and won one for him.

If Ohio State wins, Lloyd was unable to amp his team up, even after the passing of Bo.
I think the bigger question is whether this game becomes a mulligan and we move a step closer towards a rematch in the title game on Jan 8 seeing as how Michigan is either emotionally not ready to play, or so amped up that they've played beyond themselves in winning one for Bo.
 
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After tomorrow they will be talking about the way the Buckeyes toughed out their roughest game, made tougher even by Bo's passing.
I just returned from a meeting in which there were both tOSU fans and tsun fans. I told them about Bo and the first reply from one was "oh good now we will win tomorrow" (true story,I swear it).
After we win the NC they will be talking about the "Dynasty"

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Mike Freeman said:
Schembechler would have hated all of the dedications and nice words about him. "Just shut up and play," he might say. So they will, and they should.
Well said... I've paid my tribute to the man, but I think he and Woody started getting after each other as soon as they finished shaking hands.

After spending the week reading the GBW boards they feel UM against the world in terms of predictions (even tho I'd say it's about 30/70, and most of that '70' is a late 4th quarter win by OSU). "No one respects their squad," despite 'greatest ever' talk for their DL, in addition to how well their team stacks up with those in UM history.

Then they see hart running wild, pittman doing nothing, ginn being covered step for step by Trent, our OL getting dominated, our DL getting stonewalled, and so forth. They whine about disrespect while treating our run O/D & trenches in the same manner.

Ecker's return is a huge plus for UM. Hart will get his yards. Their WRs will make some plays, though I will believe Mario is dangerous when I see it. I still think they will have serious trouble with protection on obvious passing downs, especially on the right side of the line (Riley).

Carr is obviously tight heading into this game, as seen by the ABC interview. They've been fueled by disrespect and 2005 all year. Then there is the potential to carry Bo's burden for the next 24 hours. Will that emotion catch up with them?

Who do I want with the game on the line?

I'll take the leaders with poise over those trying to exorcize demons.
I'll take the leaders that have proven they can come back against the other.
I'll take the leaders that have proven they can dominate the other.
I'll take the leaders that have proven to play best in big games.
I'll take the leaders that have always given credit to their opposition win or lose, rather than making excuses.

I'll take the leaders in S&G.

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buckluvr;664298; said:
If the record doesnt, show look at the amount of traffic at the "anti-coach" sites (sacktressel.com and sackcarr.com). MI fans dont even like Carr, who has become their John Cooper. But sacktressel.com may get some hits if the bucks somehow manage to not perform Saturday. Whats the line on Satuday anyway?

I had no idea there even was an anti-Tressel site. I always thought it was a great idea when Chris Stassen bought up the rights to firetressel.com so that no one could use it.
 
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Dryden;664440; said:
Take two Advil, more from Mike Freeman ...

http://cbs.sportsline.com/columns/story/9810214

I understand that someone in organized marketing wrote a letter to the President of CBS to bring attention to Mr Freeman's past and the inaccuracies contained in his recent post drudging up the untruths of the Clarrett era. Perhaps this has persuaded Mr Freeman to stick to the facts or, in this case, to attempt to make nice.

He behaves like a guttersnipe and wouldn't know ethics if one bit him.

Or, re-reading his article, a pathetic attempt to pretend to be unbiased. Freeman, you'll be home in your underwear because you that's where people of your vast journalistic skills belong. What sports journalism organisation would waste a good spot in the press box on you? Don't tread on us.
 
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jwinslow;664453; said:
Who do I want with the game on the line?

I'll take the leaders with poise over those trying to exorcize demons.
I'll take the leaders that have proven they can come back against the other.
I'll take the leaders that have proven they can dominate the other.
I'll take the leaders that have proven to play best in big games.
I'll take the leaders that have always given credit to their opposition win or lose, rather than making excuses.

I'll take the leaders in S&G.

061028_tresselsmith-th.jpg

What he said. A great post.
 
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November 17, 2006
Wolverines need Hart to mount a running attack

By Rusty Miller
The Associated Press
COLUMBUS, Ohio ? The only time little big-man Michael Hart has come up small during his three years at Michigan has been against Ohio State.
The 5-foot-9 Hart is the nation's sixth-leading rusher, and his return to good health is a huge reason No. 2 Michigan is unbeaten and playing for a spot in the national title game Saturday against top-ranked Ohio State.
But the last two seasons, Hart has managed a total of 76 yards rushing against the Buckeyes ? and the Wolverines lost both games. The Buckeyes know if they want to make it three in a row against their archrival from the Big Ten, stuffing Hart again is essential.
"You have to stop the run first against a team like Michigan," Ohio State defensive end Jay Richardson said. "You have to stop Hart."
Cornerback Brandon Mitchell called Hart the best back Ohio State (11-0, 7-0) has faced this year, which is something considering Northern Illinois' Garrett Wolfe rushed for 171 yards in the opener.
"His ability to break tackles and just run people over is amazing," Mitchell said of the 198-pound Hart. "He doesn't turn the ball over at all and that's pretty incredible to me. We know he's unlike anyone we've ever faced."
Hart, who wasn't made available for interviews this week, was injured most of last season and missed the two games before Ohio State's last-minute 25-21 comeback win at Michigan Stadium.
Quarterback Chad Henne said Hart can't be judged by his numbers when he was hurting.
"Definitely, health is a big issue for him," Henne said. "He's reading cuts very well and reading off the linemen. Especially in the passing game, he's tremendous. He understands, he sees rotation with the safeties. He understands where some of the blitzes are. So he's become more of a knowledgeable player this year."
Even though Ohio State has shut Hart down twice, there are some new wrinkles to the Wolverines' offense this year.
Michigan (11-0, 7-0) has switched to a zone-blocking scheme, which prevents defenses from firing through gaps to make a tackle. A split-second delay means that the shifty Hart can flow along the line and then bounce to another hole while hiding behind his massive linemen.
"First of all, they probably can't see him behind me so that's key right there," said Michigan right tackle Rueben Riley, all of 6-4 and 305 pounds.
The Buckeyes are anticipating having some difficulty finding Hart on running plays.
"Now you've got the zone scheme, which is sideline to sideline trying to get you skating and trying to get you running, and then Hart kind of cuts off anywhere he wants to," Richardson said. "It's a great scheme."
The best way to beat zone blocking is to get a good rush from the defensive line, which hasn't been a problem for the Buckeyes, who are giving up 90 a game on the ground and 7.8 points. Similarly, no one has manhandled the Wolverines in the trenches this year, either. Hart is second in the Big Ten in rushing at 124 yards per game.
Michigan coach Lloyd Carr is particularly fond of his tailback, joking that when it comes to the running game "you've got to have Hart."
He said he's seen growth in the Syracuse, N.Y., native over the past two years and is hoping it continues in the biggest game of the season.
"He possesses a great competitiveness. He's got a burning compassion to compete. When he got here and I looked at him, you know, I'm thinking, it's going to take him a year or two to get big enough and strong enough to take the pounding," Carr said.
Instead, Hart gained 1,455 yards as a freshman. A variety of injuries limited him to only five full games a year ago.
"The difference in Mike Hart today is that he is much stronger, and obviously he has a great ability to find a crease, a small crease, and he's tough," Carr said. "He seems to bleed the defense for an extra yard or two because of whatever he has inside of him."
The Buckeyes have seen that determination. "Mike Hart is a great back and he's going to pose a heck of a challenge for our football team," defensive tackle David Patterson said.
 
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