I saw that espn peice too and wondered how they were going to cover our WR's. I have been led to understand that the DB's were Meechigan's weaknessbukIpower;661191; said:
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st8ofmind;661187; said:
I think the crew usually posts that on Wednesday. So...tomorrow.
bukIpower;661191; said:
I didn't think we beat Texas because of our running game though. I mean, we had like what, 78 yards rushing total? We have to control the clock with some semblance of a running game against TSUN. If we can't do that, then things will get interesting.
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st8ofmind;661187; said:
They get placed on the 'Home' page. Probably not until sometime tomorrow, though.
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st8ofmind
Go Green!!! Go Bucks!!!
Best Buckeye;661204; said:
Besides Leon Hall (who is very good but not as good as advertised) they are very beatable.
Versus uOFm a MSU frosh dropped a wide open TD, we missed an easy FG, and we got judened by the ref's REPEATEDLY or they would have been tied/losing to a PATHETIC MSU team @ the hole. Basically I'm saying their secondary is VERY beatable.
They have the edge on you guys with the DL (only because they have perhaps the best college DL I've ever seen) but you guys have a similar edge @ LB and a bigger edge in the DB's.
Long is better than any of your OL but as a whole your group is better, and their RT is from my hometown, he is VERY beatable.
I've watched about 75% of the uOFm games and about the same amount of tO$U games.
I'm saying 27-21 bucknuts. Hopefully more like 74039643986539485 - 0 Bucknuts.
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Here's a link to a good site with so:scum3:e very good info on :osu: vs. :scum3:.
(I posted it a while ago, possibly in this thread like 50 pages back or so
, but here it is again for those who'd be interested in a bit of the History involved)
http://library.osu.edu/sites/archives/OSUvsMichigan/osuvsmichigan.htm
Go Bucks! :scum4:
(I posted it a while ago, possibly in this thread like 50 pages back or so
, but here it is again for those who'd be interested in a bit of the History involved)http://library.osu.edu/sites/archives/OSUvsMichigan/osuvsmichigan.htm
Go Bucks! :scum4:
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bukIpower
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true we did only run for 78 yards, but I guess I'm just trying to make a point that we've faced a very good d-line already. Probably not as good as Michigan but similar in that the D Tackles were huge and the ends were disruptive. Everyone keeps saying tosu hasn't faced a dline like scUMs but I think its the opposite, scUM has not faced a offensive line/offensive balance like our offense.
st8ofmind- That's interesting you say that about their o-line and how long is the best individual but ours is better as a whole. Because I couldn't agree more their right side is vulnerable I think. However the sports writers as a whole think Michigan has the edge on the o-line. Also yeah I thought your game wasn't closer than it looked against scUM.
Leon Hall is good but not great and he'll cover which one of Gonzo, Ginn, Robo, Hartline, Hall, or small? At best he would hold his own against 1 of those I just listed, but the other 3 are at disadvantages.
Does anyone think 70-100 yards rushing will win us the game? I think so. Bucks 24 Scum 13. We score late in the 4th and put the game outta reach.
st8ofmind- That's interesting you say that about their o-line and how long is the best individual but ours is better as a whole. Because I couldn't agree more their right side is vulnerable I think. However the sports writers as a whole think Michigan has the edge on the o-line. Also yeah I thought your game wasn't closer than it looked against scUM.
Leon Hall is good but not great and he'll cover which one of Gonzo, Ginn, Robo, Hartline, Hall, or small? At best he would hold his own against 1 of those I just listed, but the other 3 are at disadvantages.
Does anyone think 70-100 yards rushing will win us the game? I think so. Bucks 24 Scum 13. We score late in the 4th and put the game outta reach.
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CFN weighs in with their personal predictions....
Tuesday Question - Michigan or Ohio State
By Staff
CollegeFootballNews.com
Posted Nov 14, 2006
Will it be Michigan or Ohio State in this year's version of the Game of the Century?
Past TQs
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- The nat'l title game will be ...
- The best one-loss team
- Rule changes to help the flow
- The Midseason Stuff
- The real top five ranking
- The early coach of the year is ...?
- These three teams are for real, these three aren't
- After 2 weeks, who's better, who's worse?
- 10 Greatest Quarterbacks of All-Time
- 10 Greatest Defensive Players of All-Time
- 10 Greatest Regular Season Games of All-Time
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- All-Time Offensive Team
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[FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2] Pete Fiutak [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]
[/SIZE][/FONT] Q: Simple ... Michigan or Ohio State?
A: Since I'm doing the write-up tomorrow, doing the Stream-of-Consciousness notes for it and get the final say on the prediction and what might happen before it goes up on CFN and Fox, I'm going to pull a Herbstreit before a game he's doing and not make the pick right now. With that in mind, I think this is as dead-even as a game can get.
While I'm convinced there are the two best teams in America, they're hardly be-all-end-all flawless, and each still has something to prove. Ohio State hasn't really played anyone of note since the Texas win in early September, while Michigan, for the most part, has been able to tame the last few months off since the win over Wisconsin. I know Penn State isn't bad, but it's not last year's Penn State team.
Ohio State's defense and Michigan's offense are a bit underappreciated and should play bigger roles than their more celebrated counterparts on the opposite sides of the ball. As crazy as this sounds this late in the season, I don't think we really know enough about either side. Michigan hasn't faced an offense since Notre Dame, and Ohio State hasn't dealt with a polished, poised offense since, well, it hasn't.
This much appears to be certain: this should be the most important Michigan - Ohio State game ever, which is certainly saying something for college football's greatest rivalry.
Richard Cirminiello [FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]
[/SIZE][/FONT] Q: Simple ... Michigan or Ohio State?
A: Conventional wisdom says to go with the Buckeyes. Me too. Obviously, this is an epic and near even match up with historical implications, so one break or one bad bounce could completely shift the balance of power. However, Ohio State has three big edges that?ll tip the scales in its favor: playing at the Horseshoe, having Jim Tressel, who?s 4-1 in this rivalry, on its sidelines and Troy Smith. Home field and head coaching advantages are huge in clashes of this magnitude, but both pale in comparison to the importance of No. 10. Smith is so much more than a magician in cleats. He?s a big game winner, which is exactly what every coach craves in his signal caller. He?s proven time and time again, most notably in this series, that when the Buckeyes need to make a pivotal play, he?s more than capable of delivering. There?ll be so many delicious games-within-games this weekend, including the battles in the trenches, Leon Hall vs. Ted Ginn, Mike Hart vs. the Ohio State front seven?but when the recap is done, Troy Smith will have taken one big stride toward the school?s seventh Heisman Trophy. Oh, and Anthony Gonzalez, not Ginn will be the Buckeyes? other hero on offense.
Ohio State 30 Michigan 20
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[/FONT] John Harris [FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]
[/SIZE][/FONT] Q: Simple ... Michigan or Ohio State?
A.I haven?t wavered since the spring on the number one team in the nation ? Ohio State, and I?m not in the mood to waver now. Why? Because I?m not in the mood, that?s why. But, really, why? Okay, here?s why.
1. Columbus, Ohio ? Ohio Stadium ? self-explanatory
2. Ohio State QB and Heisman front runner Troy Smith makes mincemeat of Michigan every year. It?s a pre-Thanksgiving ritual.
3. Ohio State RB Antonio Pittman is the most underrated running back in the nation
4. Who does Michigan choose to focus on in the pass game ? Ted Ginn or Anthony Gonzales? Smith will find the one UM leaves open.
5. With Mario Manningham not completely at 100%, Michigan can?t stretch the defense vertically, even with WR Steve Breaston (more a horizontal stretch player).
6. Ohio State?s depth in the front seven will keep guys fresh against one of the most powerful offensive lines in the nation. Linebackers will be able to fill backside gaps and not allow RB Mike Hart to gain a ton of yardage on cutback runs.
7. Ohio State will make something happen on special teams, a return or a block, to change the game.
8. This isn?t 1996.
That all being said, the Buckeyes take care of business on their way to Glendale. Now, don?t get me wrong, Michigan is going to be the most physical team Ohio State has seen this year, and if the zone running game gets rolling to force the Buckeye safeties to move forward before going back, Michigan QB Chad Henne could find success on play action deep down the middle of the field. The Bucks might get beat deep once, but that?s it. Smith will take what the Wolverine defense gives to him, and don?t be surprised to see him get 8 to 10 carries on designed runs to keep Michigan honest?and also open up the middle of the field on the option pass that has killed teams this year. Bucks ? 27 vs. Michigan ? 21
[FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif] [FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-1] Matthew Zemek[/FONT] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]
[/SIZE][/FONT] Q: Simple ... Michigan or Ohio State?
A: I trust Troy Smith, who has been kryptonite for Michigan two years running.
I don't trust Chad Henne, who needs to play off the charts for his team to win.
Michigan must not only beat Ohio State. The Wolverines have to beat OSU straight-up. Why? Because if this game is decided by broken plays that require improvisation and think-on-your-feet creativity, Smith will carry the Buckeyes.
It's really rather simple: Michigan is an outstanding team that, in any other year, would be headed for Lloyd Carr's second national title. But in Columbus against a team that has a plan B if things don't go perfectly on the chalkboard, the Maize and Blue only have a plan A. It might be good enough, but Troy Smith's improvisational ability--which has sunk Michigan the past two seasons--gives OSU a huge and fundamental amount of leverage.
OSU, 27-16.
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On the topic of tsun's secondary vs our passing attack, if they really feel that way they are being set up for a dissapointment.
Tsun didn't magically get better athletes or faster ones since English became DC. He's just made the team better by being aggressive vs playing bend-don't break. However, make no mistake, that pressure does a better job of hiding the weakness of tsun's secondary but the weakness exists.
Spread tsun out, make them play in space. Use 3 step drops, screens and roll-outs liberally to slow down the pass rush and we should be fine. Given decent conditions and decent protection, Troy should carve up tsun's secondary.
Tsun didn't magically get better athletes or faster ones since English became DC. He's just made the team better by being aggressive vs playing bend-don't break. However, make no mistake, that pressure does a better job of hiding the weakness of tsun's secondary but the weakness exists.
Spread tsun out, make them play in space. Use 3 step drops, screens and roll-outs liberally to slow down the pass rush and we should be fine. Given decent conditions and decent protection, Troy should carve up tsun's secondary.
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st8ofmind
Go Green!!! Go Bucks!!!
bukIpower;661227; said:
I have "impartial observer" thing going that you guys don't have. Lot's of tO$U fans were worried about UT, Iowa, and MSU (let down) and I told them not to worry about ANY of those games. The PSU game is really the only game I've seen that gave me any doubt and you guys managed to crush their windpipe late at least.
Sounds like my Uncles who are the big :osu: fans are going to head over to watch "The Game" on my home theater should be damn good one.
Hart has been tweaking his ankle over and over again for the last two years, you guys need to put a hitch in his giddy up early and get Grady to cough up the rock if he gets any carries.
uOFm will go deep (usually either a sluggo or post)on 1st and 10 or 2nd and 5 and shorter (usually off of play action) any time they are between the 40's. And after a Turnover you might as well just play dime and leave about 6 guys 35 yards down the field.
Floyd really is the only thing holding back uOFm from being like you guys or USC. As an MSU fan I love that he gives my team a shot every year and you guys should really love him.
Also, thanks for kicking Jabba the Weis ass, and fucking Miss Quinn.
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That in a nutshell was my understanding. No way they have the people who can cover all of our WR's.
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lvbuckeye
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lvbuckeye;660700; said:[FONT=arial,sans-serif]Monday, November 13, 2006[/FONT]
[FONT=arial,sans-serif]Carr upset after interview
By Jim Carty
News Sports Reporter
Nobody's talking about why, but after University of Michigan football coach Lloyd Carr finished taping interviews for Saturday's game against Ohio State with ABC Sports Monday, he came storming out of the Michigan locker room irate and loudly complaining about the direction the questioning had taken.
Carr uttered several profanities and left in his car after ordering Dave Ablauf, assistant director of media relations, to go back and address his concerns with the television crew.
Ablauf and ABC officials refused to discuss the incident afterward.
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i wonder what direction the questioning took?
over at GBW, the word is that they were asking him about his record against Tressel... that's what i wanted to hear.
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lvbuckeye;661299; said:
So now the enemy has let us know that Tress is in Carr's head and Bo is still pissing and moaning about the bag search. Meantime our guys are just talking about how good tsun is.
Payback for the Cooper years is in full effect and nowhere near done being collected.
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