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Game Thread THE GAME: #1 Ohio State 42, #2 Michigan 39 (11/18/06)

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Hart is right. If we played again, it would be different.

I'd say OSU 40, Mich. 13.

Not only did we win the game, here are some other good things to come out of it:

1. recruiting - I believe there were a lot of recruits visiting for this game. Wow, what recruit would not want to be a part of this program??

2. The Heisman wrapped up.

3. Beanie is now a made Buckeye. No confidence problems from here on out.
Next year, with Todd B. as our quarterback, we can split time between Beanie and Pittman with some Mo Wells thrown in. But this was Beanie's Buckeye baptism.

4. This game was a great tune up and confidence builder going into the NC game.

The downside? we can't expect this kind of success every year. Next year, if we go 10 and 2 or 9 and 3..... I know, that sounds terrible - but it could happen.... we'll pull out the 2006 highlights and savor this for a few years to come.

I can't wait to go to work tomorrow, with all my Meatchicken co workers!

Go Buckeyes!:biggrin:
 
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USC probably will win out anyway and that should be enough to put them second in the BCS.

If it's TSUN for the NC, fine, I also believe the score will be at least 10 points in our favor.

Isn't it just great to hear them whining?:biggrin:
 
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I would love to see TOSU play tsun in the NC game. The Buckeyes would enjoy a larger margin of victory. It's unlikely tsun would have so many breaks go their way in a rematch so we would win more convincingly. This is my Woody going for the 2 pt conversion emotion.

While a rematch would break tsun's Hart I would rather see us play USC in Glendale. The main reason for wanting this match-up is that it would be good for recruiting. Also, Pete Carroll may have the second best coaching staff in Div I and it would be great to see them go head to head with JT and crew.

What ever team ends up in Glendale the Buckeyes will give them a strong game. My biggest concern is what conditon that field will be in after the Fiesta Bowl is played there a week earlier.
 
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Here are my personal preferences, in order, for a NC opponent. I realize the BCS #2 will be either USC or tsun. These are just teams I would like to see the Bucks play.

1) USC
2) Florida
3) Notre Dame
4) Wisconsin
5) tie - Boise State, tsun :biggrin:


:cheers: :osu4:
 
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At first I was pissed about Mike Hart's comments. However, I think its only indicative of the ineptitude and negativity in UM's program in recent years. They clearly don't know how to deal with being the 2nd best program in the Big Ten, and this attitude continues with them into their days sitting the bench in the NFL behind Buckeye alumni.

They have a good team. Instead of looking forward to how they could get better, Mike Hart claims the game was a fluke. I would really hope and not expect A Pittman would not make similar comments if things were the other way around.

Bring on who ever is #2. If it's UM, or anyone else, with a win in Glendale, very few would dispute the national champion.
 
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Canton

OSU title-game foe to be announced Dec. 3
Monday, November 20, 2006
By Todd Porter REPOSITORY SPORTS WRITER


COLUMBUS When one of the greatest games in history of the Ohio State-Michigan series ended, the Wolverines didn?t hail the victors.
They begged for another shot at them and guaranteed a different outcome.
Michigan will have to become big Notre Dame fans and hope the Irish knock off USC this week. If that happens, the Wolverines likely get a rematch in the Tostitos BCS National Championship Game.
Fair? The Buckeyes and Wolverines may be the two best teams in the country.
?I guarantee if we play them again it would be a whole different game,? Michigan?s Michael Hart said. ?We should have got them the first time around. We didn?t, so if it (rematch) doesn?t happen, that?s our fault. But if we played them again, it would be a whole different game. Guarantee that.?
If No. 1 Ohio State does play Michigan again, here?s another guarantee: Hart?s comments won?t go away.
Ohio State?s 42-39 loss to Michigan left a favorable taste in the mouths of writers. The Associated Press poll kept the Wolverines at No. 2. That poll has no bearing on the BCS standings, however.
Coaches knocked UM down a notch in the USA Today poll. Ohio State is No. 1 followed by USC and Michigan. The Harris Poll and computers were kind to Michigan (third in the Harris, second in the computers). In the BCS rankings, a combination of computers, the coaches and Harris polls, Michigan remained No. 2, but USC has two games left to make up a narrow margin. The Trojans are second in the Harris and third in the computers.
The final two weeks should be a mad scramble. BCS bids will be awarded Dec. 3.
?I?m not surprised,? OSU Head Coach Jim Tressel said on Fox Sports. ?The pollsters had to be impressed with the way (Michigan) played. ... It will be interesting to see how it comes out.?
Saturday?s game, the most watched of the college football season, had the feel of a national title game.
?It had implications of a huge game ... but the national championship is something different than this,? quarterback Troy Smith said. ?This is the Ohio State University-University of Michigan game, the biggest game in college football, and the best team won.?
Tressel, just last week, said he believed a team had to win its conference to play in the national title game. He cracked the door for Michigan to join the Buckeyes in Glendale, Ariz., on Jan. 8.
?Quite honestly, the only thing on my mind is the joy of winning the Ohio State-Michigan game and the joy of being the Big Ten champions and the joy of having the chance to go back out to Phoenix and be with the wonderful people from the Fiesta Bowl,? Tressel said. ?I guess we?ll worry about ? there?s football to be played and we don?t usually worry about things until all the football is being played.
?I think Michigan is a very deserving football team. There can?t be many teams in the nation better than Michigan, but I?m not going to get into it.?
Florida Coach Urban Meyer, whose team is another that could end up as OSU?s opponent, got into it Sunday.
?I think that?d be unfair to Ohio State and I think it?d be unfair to the country,? Meyer told The Associated Press on Sunday. ?You?re going to tell Ohio State they have to go beat the same team twice, which is extremely difficult??
What if a rematch happens?
?If that does happen, all the (university) presidents need to get together immediately and put together a playoff system,? Meyer said. ?I mean like now, January or whenever to get that done.?
Hart finished with 142 yards rushing and three touchdowns. He said Ohio State?s defense isn?t all everyone make it out to be.
Of course, the Buckeyes? offense didn?t help their defensive comrades. Two errant snaps by center Doug Datish kept the Wolverines in the game. Michigan scored 10 points off those, and Ohio State lost momentum, as well as scoring opportunities.
Datish said one snap was high to Smith. He said the other that didn?t make it back to Smith got caught in a divot.
?Some of the points Michigan scored, we gave them the ball down there pretty darn close,? Tressel said.
The Buckeye offense rolled up more than 500 yards against one of the best defenses in the country. That, too, surprised Hart.
?Their defense played good, but they?re not as good as people thought,? Hart said. ?We knew we were going to be able to run the ball. ... There?s nothing special about that defense.?
Other than it will play for a national title against somebody.
Reach Repository sports writer Todd Porter at (330) 580-8340 or e-mail: [email protected]

2. Michigan
Record 11-1
Needs Notre Dame to beat USC on Saturday and hope voters remember its win in South Bend in September
3. Southern Cal
Record 9-1
Just behind the
Wolverines, will likely move to No. 2 with wins
vs. Notre Dame and UCLA
4. Florida
Record 10-1
Must beat rival Florida State and Arkansas in SEC title game, hope league?s strength sways voters
5. Notre Dame
Record 10-1
If Irish beat USC, do they get BCS nod over a
Michigan team they lost
to handily in September? one-loss teams likely out of mix Arkansas, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Louisville, Rutgers.
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Canton

Columbus celebrates long into the night
Monday, November 20, 2006
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


COLUMBUS Ecstatic Ohio State fans turned several campus blocks into a giant street party Saturday following the top-ranked Buckeyes? 42-39 victory over No. 2 Michigan.

Thousands of red-clad Ohio State supporters poured out of Ohio Stadium to celebrate the win on the streets, in bars and at hundreds of daylong tailgate parties still going strong after dark.
Even Michigan fans took consolation from the close game.
?The game lived up to the hype ? the crowd, the atmosphere, everything was amazing out there,? said Kevin Ward, 35, a Florida car salesman who grew up in Kalamazoo, Mich. ?Loss, win, it was great.?
After the game, police said there had been scattered arrests but fans were behaving relatively well. Columbus police had arrested about 20 people, including four for arson, said Sgt. Kevin Corcoran.
In student neighborhoods, about 40 fires were set, mostly on cars and furniture, along with a few in trash bins. Some were set even before the game started.
?Believe it or not, this was pretty mild so far, for as big as this game was,? said Lt. Dan Ranney of the Columbus Fire Department.
Vendors on streets near campus sold everything from necklaces made of buckeyes to obscene Michigan shirts, doing brisk sales on both. Overhead, eight planes pulled business advertisements. Lines several people deep formed outside portable toilets.
The city banned parking, emptied trash bins and removed couches from porches in some neighborhoods near campus hoping to avoid a repeat of 2002, when fans rioted after Ohio State beat Michigan en route to the national championship.
A few Michigan fans scattered through the crowd before the game said they had been treated relatively well. Ohio State and the city spent several days encouraging people to watch their behavior.
The anticipation of the game has dominated the city and the state for weeks. Earlier this month, county elections officials decided to wait until after the game to begin counting thousands of provisional ballots that have left the outcome of a tight congressional race up in the air.
The final score of 42-39 ended up being lucky numbers for more than just the Buckeyes.
The Ohio Lottery will pay out a total of about $2.2 million to lottery players after 4-2-3-9 were chosen as the Pick 4 numbers in a drawing shortly after the game ended.
Nearly 15 million watch
Saturday?s game drew the biggest television audience for any regular-season game in 13 years, according to Nielsen Media Research.
ABC?s broadcast pulled in a 13.4 rating, which translates to 14.96 million households and 21.77 million viewers. That?s the biggest audience and rating for a regular-season college football network telecast since Florida State at Notre Dame on Nov. 13, 1993. On Sept. 9, when No. 1 Ohio State beat second-ranked Texas, that game averaged an 8.2 rating and was seen in 9.1 million households.
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lvbuckeye;666537; said:
artificial surface. it will be fine...
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This doesn't seem like a description of an artificial surface.




Summary of Stadium Features
Design Elements​
Although roll-out natural grass playing fields have been used successfully in venues across Europe and Asia, Glendale's combination retractable roof and roll-out field will be the first of its kind in North America. In addition, the stadium is aligned along a slight northwest to southeast axis to offer the maximum sun exposure for the grass field and maximum shade for stadium patrons.​

Roll Out Field​
The stadium's natural grass field will roll out of the facility where it will reside most of the year and get its nourishment, maintenance, and grooming. The field tray will be 234 feet wide by 400 feet long, and take approximately 45 minutes to move into/out of the stadium. The 152,000 square-foot concrete stadium floor will have a utility grid embedded in it so as to easily accommodate various events.​
 
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CPD

Rematch highly unlikely

USC is biggest roadblock for Michigan-OSU II

Monday, November 20, 2006
Doug Lesmerises
Plain Dealer Reporter

Columbus -- Ready for an Ohio State-Michigan rematch now that the Wolverines hung on to the No. 2 spot in the BCS ratings, despite their 42-39 loss to the Buckeyes on Saturday?
Not so fast.
"Michigan is an honorary No. 2 this week," BCS analyst Jerry Palm of collegebcs.com said. "USC controls its own destiny, and this is the first time in a while I've been able to say that about a team."
The Trojans' game with Notre Dame on Saturday night holds the key to determining Ohio State's opponent in the BCS national ti tle game on Jan. 8. A win by USC win would aid the Trojans, while a loss by the Irish would also hurt Michigan in the computer ratings, because the Wolverines hold a win over Notre Dame this year.
"Michigan is not running away with the No. 2 spot," Kenneth Massey said of his computer ratings, one of six used to determine one-third of the BCS. "It's by decimal points. Now Michigan needs to pull for its opponents to win, and that includes Notre Dame."
The 11-1 Wolverines have the better loss, to Ohio State on the road, while the 9-1 Trojans were upset, 33-31, at Oregon State on Oct. 28. The computer aspect of the BCS is what gave the Wolverines a slight edge over USC in the BCS ratings released Sunday, .926 to .919. Both the coaches poll and Harris poll ranked USC second and Michigan third.
The Trojans earned 2,621 points in the Harris poll to Michigan's 2,600, while in the coaches poll, USC had 1,444 points to Michigan's 1,428. The coaches poll does not release ballots, and a spokesperson for the Harris poll said a breakdown of second- and third-place votes was not available. But a little arithmetic proves teams other than Michigan or USC are getting at least some votes for second and/or third. The fate of BCS No. 4 Florida, which plays Florida State this week and will meet Arkansas in the SEC championship on Dec. 2, still holds influence.
But even with the computers, there are no hard and fast rules. Jeff Sagarin, who operates another of the computer ratings used by the BCS, said the Wolverines are a solid No. 2 on his list, unlikely to drop no matter what.
"Let's say USC beats Notre Dame," Sagarin said. "The computer could say Michigan has been there and done that."
That likely wouldn't be true of some of the other computers. While schedule strength matters to voters, it holds greater sway in the computer ratings. Although Michigan is ranked second by five of the six computers, with USC second in one computer and third in the other five, that should change if USC beats BCS No. 5 Notre Dame.
"People think the BCS works the way polls work, which is you hold your spot as long as you win," Palm said. "The computers don't work that way. They move you up and down on schedule strength week to week. Michigan right now has a better chance to finish fourth than second. Florida could finish ahead of them, too."
So even a loss by USC wouldn't mean the Wolverines can book their flights for Glendale, Ariz. The consensus is it's nearly impossible for Notre Dame, already burdened with a loss to Michigan, to leapfrog the Wolverines even by beating USC. So a USC loss to the Irish, or to UCLA on Dec. 2, would clear the way for Florida if the Gators win out.
All Ohio State has to do is sit back and wait.

"There's a system, and we won't start preparing for that matchup until we know what the matchup is," Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said on Fox's BCS show Sunday, "but I'm sure it would be tough."
No matter the opponent, a victory on Jan. 8 would be even sweeter than the Michigan win the Buckeyes are still reveling in.
"Winning a championship would top anything," Ohio State defensive end Jay Richardson said. "We're not by any means satisfied. We're not by any means going to be happy with going 12-0. Our goal is to be 13-0."
To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:
[email protected], 216-999-4479
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The coolest thing about a potential rematch with the weasels in the BCS championship is that if we beat them again this year (which we would), and then beat them in the toilet next season, Hart, Henne & Co. would go out 0-5 against tOSU. How fun does that sound!?!?
 
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