FindlayBucks;665497; said:
Sort of. I think he actually meant to say that he didn't like squirrels or world peace...
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Sort of. I think he actually meant to say that he didn't like squirrels or world peace...
lkwdbuck
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We just got back from the game. A few thoughts:
1. I got chills when the seniors came out and I'm glad Roy Hall had a big day.
2. Troy won the Heisman today.
3. Even though it ended close, at no point did I feel we were in danger of losing (that might be arrogant, but hell, that's what I thought).
See you in Glendale!
1. I got chills when the seniors came out and I'm glad Roy Hall had a big day.
2. Troy won the Heisman today.
3. Even though it ended close, at no point did I feel we were in danger of losing (that might be arrogant, but hell, that's what I thought).
See you in Glendale!
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WaitingforKickoff
Legend
Looking back on it, this game in many ways resembles the high scoring '03 game. And that's not surprising considering that Carr's aggressive playcalling earned him his only victory against Tressel. I guess in the future these two coaches will not hesitate at all to air it out, even on third and short, provided they have effective QBs.
The officiating was suspect but did not really have an impact on the game. I thought that Michigan scored on a couple of plays that ended up being spotted at the one. However, Michigan did end up in the endzone both times. The roughing the center call was a joke, but Michigan eventually had to punt. The head to head hit on Crable was a good call, especially considering that Smith was already out of bounds after he had released the ball. The pass interference call on O'Neal was horrid though.
Our OL played a heck of a game. They really opened up some nice running lanes and did not let a whole lot of penetration up the middle. With Boone, Rehring, Barton back plus a couple of young guys waiting in the wings, this group will be counted on to facilitate the development of our new QB next season.
The skill position players we have are unbelievable. Gonzo, Robiskie, Hartline, Pittman, Wells....I really hope that Gonzo comes back next season. Despite being a great WR on the college level, he will at best being a first day pick. If he aspires to get drafted in the first couple of rounds and carry on the tradition at Ohio State, he should come back and lead this team on the field and off the field next season.
While they did not dominate, the DL made some nice plays. We missed a few tackles in this game and that's something we will ultimately have to correct. I find it ironic that our most sure tackler is also our smallest player on the field. I sure will miss seeing Antonio Smith next season.
Finally, Troy Smith has definitely proved that he is not only the most valuable player on the team, but also the most talented player on the team. If Smith plays Michigan every week on the schedule, he would have locked up the Heisman after week 4. You can tell by Smith's demeanor at the onset of the game that he was going to carry the game squarely on his shoulders. If we had lost because we had five consecutive bad snaps, Troy would have still shouldered all the blame and responsibility in the postgame conference. That's the kind of leader he is and that's why his name will forever be remembered. Let him enjoy 10 successful seasons in the league and hire him back to be a QB coach someday.
The officiating was suspect but did not really have an impact on the game. I thought that Michigan scored on a couple of plays that ended up being spotted at the one. However, Michigan did end up in the endzone both times. The roughing the center call was a joke, but Michigan eventually had to punt. The head to head hit on Crable was a good call, especially considering that Smith was already out of bounds after he had released the ball. The pass interference call on O'Neal was horrid though.
Our OL played a heck of a game. They really opened up some nice running lanes and did not let a whole lot of penetration up the middle. With Boone, Rehring, Barton back plus a couple of young guys waiting in the wings, this group will be counted on to facilitate the development of our new QB next season.
The skill position players we have are unbelievable. Gonzo, Robiskie, Hartline, Pittman, Wells....I really hope that Gonzo comes back next season. Despite being a great WR on the college level, he will at best being a first day pick. If he aspires to get drafted in the first couple of rounds and carry on the tradition at Ohio State, he should come back and lead this team on the field and off the field next season.
While they did not dominate, the DL made some nice plays. We missed a few tackles in this game and that's something we will ultimately have to correct. I find it ironic that our most sure tackler is also our smallest player on the field. I sure will miss seeing Antonio Smith next season.
Finally, Troy Smith has definitely proved that he is not only the most valuable player on the team, but also the most talented player on the team. If Smith plays Michigan every week on the schedule, he would have locked up the Heisman after week 4. You can tell by Smith's demeanor at the onset of the game that he was going to carry the game squarely on his shoulders. If we had lost because we had five consecutive bad snaps, Troy would have still shouldered all the blame and responsibility in the postgame conference. That's the kind of leader he is and that's why his name will forever be remembered. Let him enjoy 10 successful seasons in the league and hire him back to be a QB coach someday.
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Bucklion;665535; said:Disappointing about Hart's comments, though I'm sure much of it is said out of the frustration generated by knowing they left chances to win on the field. It was him that said the "We don't lose 3 games at Michigan"...right as they were losing 3 games in a month last year. Normally people grow up as they get older and more mature...apparently not him, which is a shame, because there is a lot to like about his passion for the game...it's just too bad he is a Weis-like poor loser.
V-oyd not whining about the refs or the field is a pleasant surprise, so kudos to him for that...and please stick around so you can be X-oyd.
I don't care if it was frustration or not, it was classless! You wouldn't hear Troy or any of our team making classless, demeaning statements like that. He showed me he is a classless idiot. I have NO respect for him. I call Michigan Scum and he fits the role perfectly.
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lvbuckeye
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okay guys, first chance you get, go back and watch the 39 yard Play-action TD again. pause it for a second and take a nice long look at the formation. i'm not going to give it away, but when you figure it out, you'll love Tressel even more than you already did. this play was even better than the wheel route or the option in 2002.
the perfect call, at the perfect time, from the perfect formation further illustrates Tressel's status as the best big game coach in the game.
the perfect call, at the perfect time, from the perfect formation further illustrates Tressel's status as the best big game coach in the game.
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kamfl610
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OMG. What a wonderful game Troy Smith had. I had about 30 heart attacks during the game. 40 white hairs grew on my head. But Ohio State did it on the shoulders of Troy Smith. Another year to brag till the next year. Muck Fichigan and Michael Hart. He actually believes his own hype. Let me think he had 142 yards...Antonio Pittman finished with 139 yards I believe. Better back...my ass...Jim Tressel is and will be one of the greatest coaches Ohio State ever had. Go Buckeyes! I love you!
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lvbuckeye;665602; said:okay guys, first chance you get, go back and watch the 39 yard Play-action TD again. pause it for a second and take a nice long look at the formation. i'm not going to give it away, but when you figure it out, you'll love Tressel even more than you already did. this play was even better than the wheel route or the option in 2002.
the perfect call, at the perfect time, from the perfect formation further illustrates Tressel's status as the best big game coach in the game.
You must be talking about Ginn lining up as a tight end. You're right... great formation and great play call. I noticed it as soon as they lined up
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lvbuckeye
Silver Surfer
Ohio State unparalleled on the field
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- The national championship game is now Ohio State against a 10-point underdog to be named later. But let's not fast-forward to the desert just yet.
On a day when the most-hyped game in the 103-year history of the most-hallowed rivalry is played, we should stay in the Midwestern moment. At least long enough to see how Ohio State offensive lineman Kirk Barton celebrated it.
Barton knows how to do it right. When you wrap up a 12-0 record, a wire-to-wire regular-season run ranked No. 1, an undisputed Big Ten championship, a third straight victory over your ultimate rival and a Heisman Trophy for your star quarterback, you break out the good stuff.
Right away.
Ohio Stadium is a smoke-free facility, but Barton didn't give a damn about that. Or, as the song goes, about the whole state of Michigan.
The Ohio State junior offensive tackle sat on a chair in a mob-scene interview room puffing curls of cigar smoke into the air. Barton said his stogie cost $125.
So where'd you get it, Kirk?
"The ghost of Red Auerbach," he responded cryptically.
Barton did cop to buying a bottle of Dom P?rignon to go with his smoke. Said it set him back "half a scholarship check. I'm eating Spam the next three weeks."
Turns out the Massillon, Ohio, product is more Spam than Dom by nature.
"I'm such a hillbilly, I had to ask the lady at Whole Foods how to open it," Barton said.
They had no problem getting the sucker open in the euphoric Buckeyes locker room after beating Michigan by the sacrilegious score of 42-39. Didn't matter that a hallowed rivalry built on smashmouth conservatism turned into an Arena Football League game. Didn't matter that this was the second-most points scored in 103 meetings between the two schools, topped only by the Wolverines' 86-0 victory in 1902.
(At least the late and truly great Bo Schembechler was spared the sight of the offensive numbers from this game -- 900 total yards and 76 passes -- the kind of big-game numbers that got the Big East panned a couple weeks ago by football elitists for being a pansy league.)
But stats, style and score were irrelevant. This was a time to celebrate something grand. So Barton poured a few glasses of Dom for some of his mates: guard T.J. Downing, center Doug Datish and the Buckeye most deserving of a champagne toast, 2006 Heisman winner Troy Smith (it's all over but the polling now).
"This is just a going-out party," Barton said. "It's a special day for us. A day we'll never forget."
Nobody in the record crowd of 105,708 will ever forget being in The Shoe on Saturday. This was history unfolding, and everyone drinking it in. Smith cementing his folk hero status, Tressel cementing his ownership of Lloyd Carr, Ohio State cementing one of the greatest runs in its gilded history.
But just in case the memories aren't enough, many of the fans who stormed the field after the final gun took souvenirs with them: the newly sodded field had about 40 bare spots on it when the crowd dispersed. Fans gouged out much of the turf where the Buckeyes just staked their claim to the BCS National Championship Game.
Without a legitimate challenger in sight.
Let Barton and his teammates guide us through the list of pretending contenders. And let the list start with the losing team here Saturday.
"If you're coming off a loss and don't win your conference, I don't think you deserve to play for the national championship," Barton declared.
"I'm not for a second chance," said cornerback Antonio Smith. "I think it takes away from the rivalry here. But it's not up to me to decide."
"I don't think I'm particularly excited about going back out there against them," defensive end Jay Richardson said. "Because that was a tough one."
Rematch? Ain't gonna be no rematch. Not unless Top Ten teams keep falling like bowling pins over the next two weeks (Rutgers did its part, recusing itself from title contention) or it comes down to Michigan-Notre Dame.
The Wolverines played with great heart and impressive offensive execution in a feral road setting -- but they were inferior to the Buckeyes.
The final score is closer than the game played out. The Buckeyes had 106 more yards of total offense and gift-wrapped 10 Wolverines points with a botched center snap and a tipped-ball interception deep in their own territory. They were a minus-three in the turnover department -- two of them utterly unforced -- but never really had to sweat in the final 15 minutes.
Michigan only led for 6 minutes and 29 seconds Saturday, all in the first quarter. It only had a single fourth-quarter possession with a chance to tie or take the lead. The Wolverines went three-and-out on that possession, and Ohio State promptly drove 83 yards for a 42-31 lead. School was out at that point.
So who else could play the underdog role in Glendale?
"The game I'm looking at is probably Notre Dame-USC," Barton said. "I'm thinking the winner of that is going to be our opponent."
Barton said this before Cal-USC kicked off. But given the Trojans' run the past few years, there are a few Buckeyes who would like a shot a them.
"I always wanted to play them," Richardson said. "I've heard too much about them."
Barton said he'd prefer USC over the Fighting Irish.
"I'll be rooting against Notre Dame," Barton said. "I'm not a big fan of their coach and the program."
This might have been the Champagne talking. Or not. The guy is 6-foot-6 and 310 pounds, so I'd imagine it would take more than a glass or two to make Barton silly.
But pressed for details on why he doesn't like the Fighting Irish -- whom the Buckeyes whipped 36-20 last year in the Fiesta Bowl -- Barton didn't back off very far.
"I don't know," he said, before going sarcastically diplomatic. "They're a great program, they're Notre Dame -- whoo."
Pause.
"They couldn't handle us."
But even if Notre Dame beats USC, it's hard to see the voters moving the Irish past Michigan. They'd have identical records, and the Wolverines would own a 26-point win in South Bend. Unless the leprechaun sabotages the Top 25 voting, there's no way you can rank Notre Dame ahead of Michigan.
Who else?
Richardson mentioned SEC Eastern Division champion Florida, which did nothing to help its strength of schedule Saturday by blitzing 2-10 I-AA Western Carolina. Nobody mentioned SEC Western Division champ Arkansas.
Both have a Thanksgiving weekend game to deal with -- LSU for the Razorbacks and Florida State for the Gators -- before they meet in Atlanta on Dec. 2. Get through the SEC 12-1 and you'll have a compelling argument for inclusion.
You will not have a compelling argument for beating Ohio State.
Nobody can make that argument today. The Buckeyes are 12-0, No. 1, Big Ten champs, owner of the Heisman Trophy and owner of their arch rival. If that isn't worth celebrating with a cigar and some Champagne, what is?
Pat Forde is a senior writer for ESPN.com. He can be reached at [email protected].
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COLUMBUS, Ohio -- The national championship game is now Ohio State against a 10-point underdog to be named later. But let's not fast-forward to the desert just yet.
On a day when the most-hyped game in the 103-year history of the most-hallowed rivalry is played, we should stay in the Midwestern moment. At least long enough to see how Ohio State offensive lineman Kirk Barton celebrated it.
Barton knows how to do it right. When you wrap up a 12-0 record, a wire-to-wire regular-season run ranked No. 1, an undisputed Big Ten championship, a third straight victory over your ultimate rival and a Heisman Trophy for your star quarterback, you break out the good stuff.
Right away.
Ohio Stadium is a smoke-free facility, but Barton didn't give a damn about that. Or, as the song goes, about the whole state of Michigan.
The Ohio State junior offensive tackle sat on a chair in a mob-scene interview room puffing curls of cigar smoke into the air. Barton said his stogie cost $125.
So where'd you get it, Kirk?
"The ghost of Red Auerbach," he responded cryptically.
Barton did cop to buying a bottle of Dom P?rignon to go with his smoke. Said it set him back "half a scholarship check. I'm eating Spam the next three weeks."
Turns out the Massillon, Ohio, product is more Spam than Dom by nature.
"I'm such a hillbilly, I had to ask the lady at Whole Foods how to open it," Barton said.
They had no problem getting the sucker open in the euphoric Buckeyes locker room after beating Michigan by the sacrilegious score of 42-39. Didn't matter that a hallowed rivalry built on smashmouth conservatism turned into an Arena Football League game. Didn't matter that this was the second-most points scored in 103 meetings between the two schools, topped only by the Wolverines' 86-0 victory in 1902.
(At least the late and truly great Bo Schembechler was spared the sight of the offensive numbers from this game -- 900 total yards and 76 passes -- the kind of big-game numbers that got the Big East panned a couple weeks ago by football elitists for being a pansy league.)
But stats, style and score were irrelevant. This was a time to celebrate something grand. So Barton poured a few glasses of Dom for some of his mates: guard T.J. Downing, center Doug Datish and the Buckeye most deserving of a champagne toast, 2006 Heisman winner Troy Smith (it's all over but the polling now).
"This is just a going-out party," Barton said. "It's a special day for us. A day we'll never forget."
Nobody in the record crowd of 105,708 will ever forget being in The Shoe on Saturday. This was history unfolding, and everyone drinking it in. Smith cementing his folk hero status, Tressel cementing his ownership of Lloyd Carr, Ohio State cementing one of the greatest runs in its gilded history.
But just in case the memories aren't enough, many of the fans who stormed the field after the final gun took souvenirs with them: the newly sodded field had about 40 bare spots on it when the crowd dispersed. Fans gouged out much of the turf where the Buckeyes just staked their claim to the BCS National Championship Game.
Without a legitimate challenger in sight.
Let Barton and his teammates guide us through the list of pretending contenders. And let the list start with the losing team here Saturday.
"If you're coming off a loss and don't win your conference, I don't think you deserve to play for the national championship," Barton declared.
"I'm not for a second chance," said cornerback Antonio Smith. "I think it takes away from the rivalry here. But it's not up to me to decide."
"I don't think I'm particularly excited about going back out there against them," defensive end Jay Richardson said. "Because that was a tough one."
Rematch? Ain't gonna be no rematch. Not unless Top Ten teams keep falling like bowling pins over the next two weeks (Rutgers did its part, recusing itself from title contention) or it comes down to Michigan-Notre Dame.
The Wolverines played with great heart and impressive offensive execution in a feral road setting -- but they were inferior to the Buckeyes.
The final score is closer than the game played out. The Buckeyes had 106 more yards of total offense and gift-wrapped 10 Wolverines points with a botched center snap and a tipped-ball interception deep in their own territory. They were a minus-three in the turnover department -- two of them utterly unforced -- but never really had to sweat in the final 15 minutes.
Michigan only led for 6 minutes and 29 seconds Saturday, all in the first quarter. It only had a single fourth-quarter possession with a chance to tie or take the lead. The Wolverines went three-and-out on that possession, and Ohio State promptly drove 83 yards for a 42-31 lead. School was out at that point.
So who else could play the underdog role in Glendale?
"The game I'm looking at is probably Notre Dame-USC," Barton said. "I'm thinking the winner of that is going to be our opponent."
Barton said this before Cal-USC kicked off. But given the Trojans' run the past few years, there are a few Buckeyes who would like a shot a them.
"I always wanted to play them," Richardson said. "I've heard too much about them."
Barton said he'd prefer USC over the Fighting Irish.
"I'll be rooting against Notre Dame," Barton said. "I'm not a big fan of their coach and the program."
This might have been the Champagne talking. Or not. The guy is 6-foot-6 and 310 pounds, so I'd imagine it would take more than a glass or two to make Barton silly.
But pressed for details on why he doesn't like the Fighting Irish -- whom the Buckeyes whipped 36-20 last year in the Fiesta Bowl -- Barton didn't back off very far.
"I don't know," he said, before going sarcastically diplomatic. "They're a great program, they're Notre Dame -- whoo."
Pause.
"They couldn't handle us."
But even if Notre Dame beats USC, it's hard to see the voters moving the Irish past Michigan. They'd have identical records, and the Wolverines would own a 26-point win in South Bend. Unless the leprechaun sabotages the Top 25 voting, there's no way you can rank Notre Dame ahead of Michigan.
Who else?
Richardson mentioned SEC Eastern Division champion Florida, which did nothing to help its strength of schedule Saturday by blitzing 2-10 I-AA Western Carolina. Nobody mentioned SEC Western Division champ Arkansas.
Both have a Thanksgiving weekend game to deal with -- LSU for the Razorbacks and Florida State for the Gators -- before they meet in Atlanta on Dec. 2. Get through the SEC 12-1 and you'll have a compelling argument for inclusion.
You will not have a compelling argument for beating Ohio State.
Nobody can make that argument today. The Buckeyes are 12-0, No. 1, Big Ten champs, owner of the Heisman Trophy and owner of their arch rival. If that isn't worth celebrating with a cigar and some Champagne, what is?
Pat Forde is a senior writer for ESPN.com. He can be reached at [email protected].
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fourteenandoh
My swing feels like an unfolding lawn chair.
this is unreal, i don't know if its already been posted but according to ESPin the winning ohio lotto numbers were 4239. 2.2 mil to the winner. that's one hell of a coincidence
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lvbuckeye;665623; said:yup... it was a thing of beauty, was it not?
(greenies for you!)
It was pretty awkward seeing him in a 3 point stance though. Kind of like a VW Bug monster truck
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DocJohn
DocJohn, Class of '80
Truth is stranger than.....
The odds of this are.....................IMPOSSIBLE to one!
Check out the "Pick 4" in the center of this chart...
http://www.ohiolottery.com/numbers/numbers.html
Woody and Bo??
fourteenandoh;665622; said:
The odds of this are.....................IMPOSSIBLE to one!
Check out the "Pick 4" in the center of this chart...
http://www.ohiolottery.com/numbers/numbers.html
Woody and Bo??
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